Swapping Bosch wet flooded battery to Varta AGM Battery (No BEM)

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Hi all, newbie here looking to replace my current wet flooded battery which has come to the end of it's days with a new Varta AGM battery. Unfortunately there is no BEM sticker on the battery and i am unsure how to code this battery in. Does anyone have experience with changing the battery from wet flooded to AGM? I will get an Auto Scan uploaded asap as not with the vehicle at the min, this is in a 2006 Audi Q7 4.2 fsi. Any help would be gratefully received, thanks.
 
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IIRC, the Q7 of that vintage doesn't have much accommodation for different battery types.

But please do post an Auto-Scan so we can see exactly what kind of battery management this vehicle is equipped with.

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Wednesday,22,January,2020,10:58:43:34002
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4L07D045588   License Plate: 
Mileage: 225820km-140318mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 4L (4L0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 34 37 3C 42 46 47 4F 52
          55 56 57 61 62 65 6C 6D 6F 72 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ4L07D045588   Mileage: 225820km-140318miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
07-Control Head -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
34-Level Control -- Status: Malfunction 0010
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
57-TV Tuner -- Status: Malfunction 0010
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
6F-Centr. Conv. II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
76-Park Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 079-907-560-BAR.clb
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 560 B    HW: 4L0 907 560 A
   Component: 4.2l V8/4V FSI      0070  
   Revision: 71H16---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 01210003190F0560
   Shop #: WSC 00426 210 85987
   VCID: 270BFCEF93E5591FA8D-8072

5 Faults Found:
002129 - Park/Neutral Switch Input Circuit 
               P0851 - 004 - Short to GND - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 78.0°C
                    Temperature: 58.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 960.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 7.874 V

000048 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Heating Circuit 
               P0030 - 004 - Malfunction / Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:19:40

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1284 /min
                    Load: 45.5 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 3.0°C
                    Temperature: 6.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.335 V

008196 - Intake Manifold Flap; Bank 1 
               P2004 - 002 - Stuck Open - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 225780 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:35:39

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 819 /min
                    Load: 16.5 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 83.0°C
                    Temperature: 27.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.700 V

008197 - Intake Manifold Flap; Bank 2 
               P2005 - 002 - Stuck Open - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 225780 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:35:39

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 819 /min
                    Load: 16.5 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 83.0°C
                    Temperature: 27.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 12.700 V

005634 - Power Supply Terminal 30 
               P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: -40.0°C
                    Temperature: -40.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 0.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 0.000 V

Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09D-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09D 927 750 FJ    HW: 09D 927 750 FJ
   Component: AL 750 6A           0938  
   Revision: 00H52000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000504
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 7BA3F09F3FED2DFF9C5-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 4L0-910-517-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 517 A    HW: 4L0 614 517 A
   Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25E1   0130  
   Revision: 00H21001    
   Coding: 0021553
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2809FFD39EFB5667A17-807C

2 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:58:30

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 14337
                    Count: 128
                    Count: 34304

01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 128
                    Count: 15105
                    Count: 297
                    Count: 28928


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 852     HW: 4F0 905 852 B
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H31 0220  
   Revision: 31050601    Serial number: 10601100526558
   Coding: 0000147
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 6393A8FFA75DF53FB45-8036

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 E
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H45 0080

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 D
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG   H01 0040

2 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:59:54

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 10
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:58:51


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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4L0-910-7xx-07-H.clb
   Part No SW: 4L1 910 732 H    HW: 4E0 035 729 A
   Component: Interfacebox    H43 5570  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 387IX067522606
   Coding: 0002002
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2F3B14CFBB15015F60D-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L0 910 609 
   Component: E0380 BedienteilH02 0060

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000515490

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0105.09.060000000100010435ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010435ÿ

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Time Indication: 15


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 043     HW: 4L0 820 043 F
   Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH05 0060  
   Revision: 00---009    Serial number: 00000000064048
   Coding: 0525320
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 619FA2F7BD41E72FA69-8034

3 Faults Found:
01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:51:11

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 23.0°C

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:58:30

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 9.60 V

00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225792 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.01
                    Time: 03:57:34

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 3.0°C
                    Temperature: 3.0°C
                    Load: 28.8 %
                    Temperature: -4.0°C
                    RPM: 1240 /min
                    Absolute Pres.: 1.0 bar
                    Current: 0.000 A
                    Temperature: 3.0°C


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 J    HW: 4F0 907 279 A
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H17 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
   Coding: 0013121
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 303917B3A62B1EA7797-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L2 910 113   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AU716   H08 0080  
   Coding: 00064792
   Shop #: WSC 31414  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 A  Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH12 0090  
   Coding: 00150059
   Shop #: WSC 31414  

3 Faults Found:
02385 - Rain / Light Recognition Sensor Function Restricted due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 225784 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.30
                    Time: 12:49:00

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 225776 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:59:00

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 81
                    Mileage: 225776 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:59:00


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Address 0E: Media Player 1        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 111 A    HW: 4L0 035 111 
   Component: CD-Changer      H41 0100  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ5ZBF3041880
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 1E65D90BCCBF98D7DBB-804A

3 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:15:41

02261 - Data Medium 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 225792 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.01
                    Time: 03:39:45

             Freeze Frame:
                    Text: 00000000

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:00:03


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4L0-910-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 655 B    HW: 4L0 959 655 
   Component: 31 AIRBAG AUDI8RH38 0120  
   Revision: 05H38000    Serial number: 0037GD06M2N6  
   Coding: 0013105
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2C0103C38A037A4745F-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332QSME114F2219A

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342QSME140D1B29H

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME13613E7FR

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME126C4459L

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63734SME1532085B-

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63834SME152C1865%

2 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
02095 - Component Protection Active 
            000 - - - Intermittent

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 549     HW: 4F0 953 549 A
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul H08 0230  
   Revision: 00H08000    Serial number: 90025062340199
   Coding: 0112142
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 6695B1EB546F801753B-8032

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: Lenkradmodul    H07 0090

2 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:01:55


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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4L0-910-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 930 C    HW: 4L0 920 980 F
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H17 0110  
   Revision: 00400000    Serial number: 5HI56YZ76     
   Coding: 2673443
   Shop #: WSC 40568 067 57207
   VCID: 2313E8FFE7DDB53FF45-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 4L0-910-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 468     HW: 4L0 907 468 A
   Component: J533__Gateway   H06 0040  
   Revision: 00H06000    Serial number: 0800D0682281BD
   Coding: F557FE7F343602
   Shop #: WSC 00583 210 88973
   VCID: 6C81C3C34A83BA4705F-8038

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:15:43


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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 4L0-910-553.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 553 B    HW: 4L0 907 553 
   Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC    H03 7550  
   Revision: --H03001    Serial number: 15.1528-0095.2
   Coding: 0015510
   Shop #: WSC 00583 210 64613
   VCID: 290FFAD785F16F6FBE9-807C

3 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 168
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:59:03

             Freeze Frame:
                    Error Code: 13

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:00:03

             Freeze Frame:
                    Error Code: 64

01577 - Turn-Off due to Over-Temp 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225781 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:36:35

             Freeze Frame:
                    Error Code: 68


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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 887 Q    HW: 4E0 919 887 D
   Component: MNS ECE         H48 0850  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 399H1067535890
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3B23309F7F6DEDFFDC5-806E

4 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:00:31

02261 - Data Medium 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225792 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.01
                    Time: 03:56:47

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Raw, Form. N/A: 000 045 048

01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 13
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:13:36

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:00:10


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Address 3C: Lane Change        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 566 A    HW: 4L0 907 566 A
   Component: J0769_SWA_MasterH06 0060  
   Revision: 00H06000    Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-00
   Coding: 0001101
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2C0103C38A037A4745F-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L0 910 568 A
   Component: J0770_SWA_Slave_H05 0060

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6PZ 009 014-20

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 3F30.08.0600H0500000010219ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010219ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4L0-910-793-42.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 793 B    HW: 4L0 959 793 B
   Component: TSG FA          H12 0130  
   Revision: 00-00000    
   Coding: 0002651
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2F3B14CFBB15015F60D-807A

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:15:43


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4L0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 289 D    HW: 4L0 907 289 A
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H05 0020  
   Revision: 0020 ---    Serial number: 01018817190000
   Coding: 7610619
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 313F12B7AD2117AF769-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 177 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020

2 Faults Found:
01699 - Motor for Central Locking; Hatch/Trunk (V53) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 42
                    Mileage: 203836 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.03.19
                    Time: 12:38:12

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:03:58


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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 4L0-910-223-BO.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 223 G    HW: 4L0 035 223 D
   Component: DSP-High AU716  H02 0150  
   Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000015745
   Coding: 0000017
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2809FFD39EFB5667A17-807C

2 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 8.00 V

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225787 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.30
                    Time: 12:49:57

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 8.30 V


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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 E
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H10 0080  
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000008708
   Coding: 0011101
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 5EE5990B8C3FD8D79BB-800A

2 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225776 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:00:00

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 6.700 V
                    Temperature: 23.0°C

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225776 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:59:00

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 8.000 V
                    Temperature: 22.0°C


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4L0-910-793-52.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 793 B    HW: 4L0 959 792 B
   Component: TSG BF          H12 0130  
   Revision: 00-00000    
   Coding: 0002651
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2F3B14CFBB15015F60D-807A

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:15:43


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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 F    HW: 4F0 907 357 F
   Component: AFS 1           H01 0020  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000022
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 290FFAD785F16F6FBE9-807C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A
   Component: AFS-Modul links H06 0002

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A
   Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH06 0002

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 225784 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:59:53


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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T    HW: 4E0 035 541 P
   Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0630  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 388H$067550845
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 313F12B7AD2117AF769-8064

2 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:15:43

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 229
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:58:50


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Address 57: TV Tuner        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 148 E    HW: 4E0 919 148 
   Component: R0078 TVhybridT     0470  
   Revision: R0H05000    Serial number: 76300700558602
   Coding: 0000303
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2517F6E7E9E94B0F9A1-8070

2 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:59:34

00863 - Antenna 1 for TV (R55) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:50:50


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Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 181     HW: 4L0 915 181 
   Component: J0644 BEM       H12 0530  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000000040765
   Shop #: WSC 00426 210 85279
   VCID: 6491ABE3A253F2074DF-8030

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 D
   Component: von VA0  2609010410       
   Coding: 344630393135313035442056413032363039303130343130
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001

2 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:00:31

03041 - Energy Management Active 
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 16
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:11:34


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4L0-910-795.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 795 B    HW: 4L0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HL          H21 0050  
   Coding: 0002058
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 313F12B7AD2117AF769-8064

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:15:43


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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 4F0-910-273-HI.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 273 C    HW: 4F0 907 273 A
   Component: Reifendruck 3   H05 0100  
   Revision: 00050100    Serial number: 00000700017713
   Coding: 0222424
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2313E8FFE7DDB53FF45-8076

5 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 10100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:00:31

             Freeze Frame:
                    (no units): 255.0
                    Voltage: 6.60 V
                    (no units): 42.0
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.

01467 - Front Left Tire Pressure Sensor (G222) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 43
                    Mileage: 225798 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.01
                    Time: 04:38:01

             Freeze Frame:
                    (no units): 21.0
                    Voltage: 13.70 V
                    (no units): 46.0
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.

01468 - Front Right Tire Pressure Sensor (G223) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 43
                    Mileage: 225798 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.01
                    Time: 04:38:01

             Freeze Frame:
                    (no units): 21.0
                    Voltage: 13.70 V
                    (no units): 49.0
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.

01469 - Rear Left Tire Pressure Sensor (G224) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 43
                    Mileage: 225798 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.01
                    Time: 04:38:01

             Freeze Frame:
                    (no units): 21.0
                    Voltage: 13.70 V
                    (no units): 52.0
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.

01470 - Rear Right Tire Pressure Sensor (G225) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 43
                    Mileage: 225798 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.01
                    Time: 04:38:01

             Freeze Frame:
                    (no units): 21.0
                    Voltage: 13.70 V
                    (no units): 55.0
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.


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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 441 A    HW: 4L0 907 441 A
   Component: J772__Rearview      0050  
   Revision: --H12---    Serial number: 525PA8-J6840ZY
   Coding: 1021001
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2411EBE3E2D3B2078DF-8070

3 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:58:51

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                        Reverse OFF
                    Count: 3

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 43
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:59:04

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                        Reverse OFF
                    Count: 3

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 43
                    Mileage: 225828 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2006.03.15
                    Time: 12:07:48

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                        Reverse OFF
                    Count: 3


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Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 945     HW: 4L0 827 851 B
   Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H21 0280  
   Revision: --H21001    Serial number: E5030000B     
   Shop #: WSC 98765 666 38354
   VCID: 6C81C3C34A83BA4705F-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L0 910 946 
   Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H21 0280

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: E5030100B     

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: RD09.09.06--H21001000A0050ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 0A0050ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 6F: Centr. Conv. II        Labels:. 4L0-910-290.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 290 A    HW: 4L0 907 290 A
   Component: ILM HINTEN 2    H05 0060  
   Revision: AAH05061    Serial number: 001951261-----
   Coding: 0003587
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2615F1EB94EF401793B-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4L0 910 591 
   Component: J_245_EE15_SKB09H10 0180

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4L0 910 591 
   Component: J_394_EE15_SKB09H10 0180

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 4L0 910 591 
   Component: J_392_EE15_SKB09H10 0180

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 11
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:59:54


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4L0-910-795.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 795 B    HW: 4L0 959 794 B
   Component: TSG HR          H21 0050  
   Coding: 0002058
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 313F12B7AD2117AF769-8064

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:15:43


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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 283 G    HW: 4F0 919 283 G
   Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0060  
   Revision: 00H12000    Serial number: 06330624005744
   Coding: 0221146
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2809FFD39EFB5667A17-807C

2 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:00:04

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:59:06


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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 336 M    HW: 4E0 862 335 
   Component: Handyvorb2      H18 1130  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005101268
   Coding: 0010920
   Shop #: WSC 00583 210 82263
   VCID: 2C0103C38A037A4745F-8078

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 12:59:56


End----(Elapsed Time: 02:29, VBatt start/end: 11.8V/11.9V. VIgn 11.9V)-----

Code:
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                Address 19: CAN Gateway       Labels: 4L0-910-468.clb
Control Module Part Number: 4L0 910 468     HW: 4L0 907 468 A
  Component and/or Version: J533__Gateway   H06 0040
           Software Coding: F557FE7F343602
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00583 210 88973
                      VCID: 6C81C3C34A83BA4705F-8038
1 Fault Found:

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 225779 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.12.13
                    Time: 13:15:43
 
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Thanks Uwe.
 
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OK, that's what I thought. It's got the old-school, 4F-style battery manager. I'm pretty sure it expects a flooded battery. That said, I've had nothing but positive experiences with installing AGM batteries in cars that don't have a battery manager at all, so if you've already got the new AGM and can't return it for the "right" battery, I'd go ahead and install it and just change the serial number of the battery in the battery manager. Doing so tells it you've installed a new battery.

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I've had nothing but positive experiences with installing AGM batteries in cars that don't have a battery manager at all
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When the battery died on my B7 RS4 (no battery manager on the 8E platform!) I replaced it with an AGM battery of the same physical size with no issues, in fact it made starting much easier because of the higher CCA rating.
 
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Hi Uwe should i be using CAN 19 then coding 07 or 61 Battery Regulator? These are the numbers i have in each:


CAN 19, Coding 07 - F557FE7F343602

61 Battery Regulator - 344630393135313035442056413032363039303130343130


Sorry for the silly questions it's my first time using VCDS. Thanks for your help.
 
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Which one contains the serial number?
 
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61-Battery Regulation. In coding, there should be drop-down, the first is for the module itself, and the second is for a virtual sub-system, the battery. Then you can use the battery coding assistant to change the serial number:

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Which one contains the serial number?
Neither of those looks like a serial number to me. Just change the existing serial number. Change the last digit by one.

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Will it not matter that the battery spec is different to the previous battery?
 
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Will it not matter that the battery spec is different to the previous battery?
Like I said easlier, there's not really any explicit way to change the battery spec on that first-gen battery management system. All you really need you need to do here is tell it it's got a new battery, and changing the serial number accomplishes that.

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Perfect thank you very much for your help. Now got to figure out if i can turn off the TPMS as keep getting the error on the dash each time i start the vehicle. No sensors installed when i purchased the vehicle.
 
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Uwe and Dave, are You sure that installing AGM battery in a place of a regular one will not shorten it's life?
I have no data from practical experiments, but according theory AGM requires a bit different charging voltage.
From another point of view, a lot of modern cars with start-stop feature (mainly equipped with AGM batteries) use charging voltage 15V and higher to get battery recharged ASAP and keep start-stop system functional even in city traffic with a lot of stopping/starting cycles and short distances between them, and don't care about battery lifetime...
 
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Uwe and Dave, are You sure that installing AGM battery in a place of a regular one will not shorten it's life?
I have no data from practical experiments, but according theory AGM requires a bit different charging voltage.
From another point of view, a lot of modern cars with start-stop feature (mainly equipped with AGM batteries) use charging voltage 15V and higher to get battery recharged ASAP and keep start-stop system functional even in city traffic with a lot of stopping/starting cycles and short distances between them, and don't care about battery lifetime...
Sure? No. Confident? Yes. Back in the day when we were contemplating doing BMW software as well, we got a 2002 BMW 325i brand-new. The original (conventional) battery died quite suddenly at about 2 years. I replaced it with an AGM. It stayed in there for somewhere between 7 and 8 more years, at which time we parked had parked the car an extended period of time, and it wouldn't start when we returned to it. We jump-started it, drove it some, charged put it on a charger, and it seemed OK, but at 7-8 years of age, and knowing the battery had been in a state of substantial discharge for some time, I didn't trust it, so I replaced it. Anyway, if a car battery lasts 7-8 years, I don't think its life has been shortened.

AGM batteries will tolerate higher charge voltages (and currents) because they have very low internal resistance, but I don't think they require higher charge voltages to love a long, happy life. That said, I think it would be a terrible idea to install a conventional (wet) battery in place of an AGM in a car that's got a charging system designed for an AGM. Those higher voltages likely will shorten a wet battery's life.

The good news is that most modern VAG cars with start/stop systems do let you specify the type of battery. The bad news is I'm not sure I understand the difference between the "Fleece" and "AGM" choices available in that Adaptation channel in some Gateways. It seems to me those should be synonyms for the same type of battery.

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Uwe and Dave, are You sure that installing AGM battery in a place of a regular one will not shorten it's life?
I have no data from practical experiments, but according theory AGM requires a bit different charging voltage.
From another point of view, a lot of modern cars with start-stop feature (mainly equipped with AGM batteries) use charging voltage 15V and higher to get battery recharged ASAP and keep start-stop system functional even in city traffic with a lot of stopping/starting cycles and short distances between them, and don't care about battery lifetime...
The AGM battery was still going strong when I sold my RS4 after having been in place for more years than the original wet battery - so on that (limited) experience I would say the AGM battery didn't have its life shortened.

Similarly I fitted an AGM battery to my other car (a Citroen C1) when the OE wet battery expired after 3 years, the AGM battery was in place for 7 years and I only replaced it (with an identical AGM battery) when the workshop advised that's its capacity was down to 70% and I didn't want to risk Winter starting problems as the car is only used once a week. So that experience also suggests that fitting an AGM battery in place of a wet one does not reduce its life.
 
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Sounds good! Then I have only one possibility left - to agree with You.


The bad news is I'm not sure I understand the difference between the "Fleece" and "AGM" choices available in that Adaptation channel in some Gateways. It seems to me those should be synonyms for the same type of battery.

-Uwe-
That was confusing me too, when I look in parts catalog. And in first gen BEM's only different battery partnumbers can be selected, without description of battery type and capacity. So I have to use some reverse investigation by comparing available partnumbers in BEM selection with the ones in parts catalog, and they did not match, because are changed from time BEM was designed... So I need to trace supersession chain, too.

Actually could bee nice to have any data do, and if yes, then how, the charging voltage/current curve really changes if selecting one of battery partnumbers marked "Fleece" in catalog.
 
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Uwe,

what do You mean "Fleece" battery? Is a enhanced flooded battery (EFB) in question, please.

For example, if we are charging a Fleece battery, what parameters should be set? Is the rule 10% of capacity valid? (75Ah = 7.5A) and how much V? 14,8 or more...
 
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This page on the Varta website suggests that EFB batteries also use a fleece, so maybe an EFB battery is what is being referred to as "fleece"?

https://www.varta-automotive.com/en-gb/technology/efb-battery-technology

EFB batteries support applications that operate at a partial state of charge and don’t require the deep-cycling characteristics of an AGM battery. A polyfleece scrim material, added to the positive plate surface, makes this possible. This helps to stabilise the active material of the plates, which increases the endurance.



 
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what do You mean "Fleece" battery? Is a enhanced flooded battery (EFB) in question, please.
A random current GW (GatewNF) has the following choices for battery type:
  • Wet
  • Fleece
  • Wind6V
  • Wind12V
  • Ultracap
  • Gel
  • Lithium ions
  • EFB
  • Binary - AGM
  • EFB+
So it seems that there is a distinction between "Fleece", "EFB", "EFB+", and "Binary - AGM", and there is still no clarity here.

The other thing I find interesting about this list is that there's only one entry for "Lithium Ion" when it's well know that there are two quite different chemistries:

There are the 3.6-3.7V (nominal) traditional Li-ion cells; these are the type used in virtually all modern EV traction batteries (and cell phones and laptops) due to their high energy density. The can be charged to 4.2V per cell, so battery with 3 cells in series should never see more than 12.6V, but one with 4 cells in series would need a over 16V to be charged fully.

Then there is the 3.3V (nominal) LiFePo type cell, popularized by A123 Systems, that can be charged to 3.6V. They are much less volatile than traditional Li-ion cells, but also have considerably less energy density. If you buy a "Li-Ion" starter battery for a car or motorcycle (they save a lot of weight compared to a lead-acid battery), it will almost certainly have four LiFePo cells in series. That makes it compatible with most existing charging systems (but the charge voltage should not exceed 14.4V).

So which kind of "Lithium ions" battery is that entry for?

-Uwe-
 
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