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    People renting VCDS

    Uwe,

    Is this something you condone?
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/7-Day-Renta...e/223833981876

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    We do not condone it. We cannot prevent it. We will not support those who rent when they want/need assistance without them being a licensed registered user. In the forum, they will be restricted to the new user section.

    We are aware of the party who rents these VCDS systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    We do not condone it. We cannot prevent it. We will not support those who rent when they want/need assistance without them being a licensed registered user. In the forum, they will be restricted to the new user section.

    We are aware of the party who rents these VCDS systems.

    You should rent them and not give them back. They keep the deposit and then have to buy another one from you :-)

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    Why not make the forums accesible only to members only. That should kill the black market and stop this sort of behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myounus View Post
    Why not make the forums accesible only to members only. That should kill the black market and stop this sort of behaviour.
    The forum can be viewed by anyone. However, only Verified VCDS and VCDS-Lite customers can post in most of the sections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santos View Post
    The forum can be viewed by anyone. However, only Verified VCDS and VCDS-Lite customers can post in most of the sections.
    Exactly my point, make the forums ACCESSIBLE only to members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myounus View Post
    Exactly my point, make the forums ACCESSIBLE only to members.
    Surely some part needs to be accessible to non-members so that they can post a request to become members?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolDave View Post
    Surely some part needs to be accessible to non-members so that they can post a request to become members?
    Fair point but the main forum information should be restricted. It'll kill off the black market trade in illegal VCDS cables. They buy a clone and then get all the info from the forums.

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    We have been at this for nearly 20 years - in May of 2020 it will be 20 years and we will celebrate that anniversary. Over those years, we have had to change our model somewhat. Early on, all data in label files was readable by the user of VAG-COM/VCDS. As we saw more and more large companies taking our files and using them in their own tools, we decided to protect what we had built knowing we were going to have to hurt the very people we chose to support - the VAG enthusiasts. You see, the backbone of our business model has been to help and serve people wanting to make their VAG cars run well. Along the way, we created a company that has been beneficial to countless people, especially to those of us who earn our living working here. From the start, Uwe's mantra has been to help the community. We were at a point where we had to decide to protect our own future - the future of VAG-COM and of Ross-Tech. It was not a painless nor easy decision.

    It is not our purpose to lock others out. We want people here to get answers. We want to be known as the place to go and get those answers. Yes, for sure, we would rather all would spend with us, helping to keep us going. We will not withhold information from those that choose to go another path. What justification can be given to withhold information that will help those in the VAG community love their ride? How does holding back promote our business and our business model? What is it that led you here? My guess is most came because the tool is good and the support has been touted as the best. Holding back is exactly what the big box tools have done for years. How many of us wanted to rail against them because they would not help us?

    No, let's not throw out who we are. Let's be bigger than those who think they are clever and find a way to make money off what others work to make. We can be bigger. We are better. We are not whores running after profit. We are people who value knowledge and effort and we do not have to stoop to the ways of others. No, let's keep as much open as we can and keep on helping one another. The world will be a better place when we do. And, I believe our efforts will be rewarded with loyal and happy users. Maybe I am naive but if I am, then so is the boss.

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    Bruce I agree with the principles but the world has changed. VCDS is the best undoubtedly which is why you're getting unscrupulous individuals cheating the very people who have those principles.
    We could go further and say why doesn't VCDS do more? Why can't it flash like ODIS e or VCP? Why can't it add parameters? Why is it restricted?

    There are so many thieves making forgeries for profit, stealing money that could be reinvested in giving the cable those options to help the community. There comes a time where you have to balance that. Let's look at this another way, if VCDS goes under what is left for all VAG enthusiasts, 2000 crappy programmers or getting ripped off by VAG.

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