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    RLS and the PQ-25 BCM

    I installed RLS in the car this weekend, and everything seems to be working.... however the only thing I cannot figure how to do is set the Coming Home to Auto, it currently requires a flip on the high beam stick for it to work, leaving home works great.. rain sensor works, light sensor works... anyway, thanks in advance...

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    Sunday,04,October,2015,16:08:17:17578
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 15.7.1.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20150904
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: 3VWLA7AJ9   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 23550km-14633mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: AJ (6N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 17 19 25 2B 2E 37 44 47 56 75 77 0B
    
    VIN: 3VWLA7AJ9   Mileage: 23550km-14633miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    75-Telematics -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
     
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    Address 01: Engine (J623-CVCA)       Labels: 04L-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04L 906 016 AK    HW: 04L 907 309 K
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H20 8276  
       Revision: 8AH20---    
       Coding: 011D0012042410085000
       Shop #: WSC 09376 002 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906016AK 001008
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906016AK.rod
       VCID: 72EBE5AAA5EB8BAE5B-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.lbl
       Part No SW: 02E 300 061 T    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
       Component: GSG DSG AG6     521 4508  
       Revision: 05652104    Serial number: 00001407141886
       Coding: 0000020
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 2541CEF6ECA5AC160E-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BS    HW: 1K0 907 379 BS
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0166  
       Revision: 00H46001    
       Coding: A14B400C492400FC850F02E9921C0042A1100012
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 0407B372875FB51E79-8050
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels: 5K0-959-434.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434 
       Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202  
       Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0343471265
       Coding: 030C0C
       Shop #: WSC 03516 444 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
       ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G.rod
       VCID: 377D14BE8E092E86AC-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 1K8 907 044 E    HW: 1K8 907 044 E
       Component: Climatronic   H05 0102  
       Revision: 00001K02    
       Coding: 0018019002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 00120
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
       VCID: 31692AA6606DF0B6E2-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 E    HW: 7H0 937 090 A
       Component: BCM PQ25 Max3 H74 0725  
       Revision: B8074001    Serial number: 27011254140539
       Coding: 78994BBF68A90B0009382480668B86CD0F86759E60842054B0A050022844
       Shop #: WSC 09376 002 104857
       VCID: 306F2FA26367F9BEED-8064
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
       Component: RLS 170813 05  54  0403 
       Coding: 0F30AD
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN    HW: 6R0 959 801 AN  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 5461 
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS    HW: 6R0 959 802 AS  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 5461 
       Coding: 820000
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591     HW: 5K0 959 591 
       Component: J245 PS41.022  H10 0007 
       Coding: 180000
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 A    HW: 6C0 959 442 A
       Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H04 0019 
       Coding: 280000
    
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M    HW: 6R0 959 811 M
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 5460 
       Coding: 800000
    
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M    HW: 6R0 959 812 M
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 5460 
       Coding: 800000
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AB    HW: 5C0 959 655 AB
       Component: AirbagVW10    500 0975  
       Serial number: 003LZD02FL1P  
       Coding: 00004B33
       Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00011
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001030
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360_SE36.rod
       VCID: 72EBE5AAA5EB8BAE5B-8026
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 A    HW: 4M0 959 339 A
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H05 0016 
       Serial number: IBH0000J1400018LCH00
       Coding: 303345
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3572MSME38322A48ZZZX
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3582MSME542E2A48ZZZ0
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3516KSME13173530ZZZC
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3526KSME02223530ZZZ7
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
       Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3556LSME44461B30ZZZR
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
       Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ---- 
       Serial number: 3566LSME48431B30ZZZT
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5C6 920 974 FX    HW: 5C6 920 974 FX
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0808  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 281801
       Shop #: WSC 09376 002 104857
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
       VCID: 0B15984EA201FA6638-805E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 A
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0725  
       Revision: B8074001    
       Coding: 102200
       Shop #: WSC 09376 002 104857
       VCID: 70EFEFA2A3E7B9BEAD-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0808  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000007
       Shop #: WSC 09376 002 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
       VCID: 6ADBFDCA8D3B436EE3-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels: 5K0-905-861.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
       Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 14000165340003
       Coding: 4900000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00120
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
       ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
       VCID: 306F2FA26B67F9BEED-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 2E: Media Player 3
    Cannot be reached
    
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    Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 Q    HW: 1K8 035 684 B
       Component: RNS-MID       H05 5382  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P3325004
       Coding: 04090040000003A10000
       Shop #: WSC 03822 444 12345
       VCID: 31692AA6686DF0B6E2-8064
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
       Component: NAR V10  8246 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 307    3501  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 39791286701D38F65A-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
       Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 A    HW: 5C6 035 456 A
       Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6815  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098A0165188
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3 S01001
       ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT3.rod
       VCID: 2643C9FA59A3A70E07-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 Q    HW: 1K8 035 684 B
       Component: RNS-MID       H05 5382  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P3325004
       Coding: 04090040000003A10000
       Shop #: WSC 03822 444 12345
       VCID: 31692AA6686DF0B6E2-8064
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 919 859 
       Component: NAR V10  8246 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 561 035 285     HW: 561 035 285 
       Component: OCULowUSA     014 0102  
       Serial number: 000003554140526
       Coding: 02630102C2423A007F1606000000
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULow 001010
       ROD: EV_OCULow.rod
       VCID: 53A5402E3AB1E2A6B0-8006
    
    2 Faults Found:
    9458451 - Cellular Antenna 
              B1053 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 127
                        Mileage: 23552 km
                        Date: 2015.10.04
                        Time: 01:11:16
    
    2103041 - Control Module 
              B1788 F0 [009] - Start Prohibition Deactivated
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 8
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 127
                        Mileage: 23552 km
                        Date: 2015.10.04
                        Time: 01:11:16
    
    
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    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 5N0-035-729.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 E    HW: 5N0 035 729 E
       Component: TELEFON       H07 0593  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007666427145
       Coding: 0A110300A0010110
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
       ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
       VCID: 326B25AA656BCBAE9B-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:46)--------------------------

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    Proper light switch is installed?
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    Yes sir. Euro with Auto and two fog positions.

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    I've noticed a lot of undocumented bits in the pq-25 is that because there is no good map?

    I found that byte 23 bit 2 moves the drl's to the fog lights (if equipped)

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    Ok if the Pq-25 BCM is such a problem child, Does anyone know if anyone has replaced the Pq-25 with a PQ-35 BCM? I realize this will be a lot of work, but should in the future reduce the number of issues in making changes to this car.

    Insights?

    Thanks
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    Well, I wouldn't exactly call it a problem child but that's a Polo type of BCM rather than a Golf so functionality and tweaks are limited. I can't tell what model year this is (due to the heavily modified VIN) but it has to be a 2011+ Sedan. Since the JSW had a Golf PQ35 you could try to match driveline details, KESSY, remote fob/key part numbers, etc.. to source parts but:

    1) The 19-CAN Gateway is integrated into that BCM. You would need the additional wiring to the BCM and a new 19 but stay tuned for the window comments.
    2) Locating the proper BCM for compatibility with 05-Acc/Start Auth/KESSY in addition to the existing remotes/keys would be experimental.
    3) Mk6 Golf vehicles use a 16-Steering wheel module and this car doesn't have one. That's the slip ring in addition to a bunch of wiring.
    4) Mk6 Golf vehicles use diag capable door control modules (window motors) that aren't installed in this car. Again - a bunch of wiring, etc. because I don't think those 6R0s are going to communicate directly without a BCM to go through.

    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AN HW: 6R0 959 801 AN Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
    Component: J386__TSG_FT 006 5461
    Coding: 820000

    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AS HW: 6R0 959 802 AS Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
    Component: J387__TSG_BT 006 5461
    Coding: 820000

    Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 M HW: 6R0 959 811 M
    Component: J388__TSG_HL 006 5460
    Coding: 800000

    Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 M HW: 6R0 959 812 M
    Component: J389__TSG_HR 006 5460
    Coding: 800000
    5) If you could make all of that happen the remotes would need to be matched on the dealer level and I don't think that would go smoothly with the wrong parts in the car.

    So, if you really wanted to do this I think it would be easier to start with a crashed identical model year JSW TDI, DSG with KESSY to work with but it wouldn't be worth it IMO.

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    Hi Dana,

    Its a 2015 Jetta SEL TDi, the other option is to help you guys develop a map of the PQ-25 if thats something you are interested in doing, I would be more than happy to help. Changing the BCM would be a last resort item for me.. lots of work.

    Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    5) If you could make all of that happen the remotes would need to be matched on the dealer level and I don't think that would go smoothly with the wrong parts in the car.
    Dana,

    just a quick question to clarify something for me, I was told, by the gentleman who did my cluster swap, that the keys are matched to the cluster and the kessy module, is this correct or incorrect?


    Ken

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    Correct but the damn remotes won't function properly when the BCM is replaced and that applies to both PQ25 and PQ35 controllers:

    VW Golf (5K) Body Control Module
    VW Jetta (16) Body Control Module

    I haven't broke my 2012 Tiggy to confirm but based on feedback alone the touch handles and remotes will be inoperative with the new BCM until the keys are matched (or re-matched in this case) at the dealer.

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    Ok Thank you for the information.

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