How to remove item fom "Installed" tab if it's not showed in Gateway list?

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Hello! Is there any way to remove an item from the "Installed" tab if it's not showed in the Installation List?

I have a problem with 0B-Sec. Air Heating
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In my Installation list there is no 0B:
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BCM: 7E0 937 090 C
Gateway: 7E0 909 901
 
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Is this a an actual car or some modules on a test bench?

Please do an Auto-Scan using Auto-Detect and post the results so we can see what VCDS actually finds.

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yes, it's a test bench, full autoscan:
Code:
Tuesday,21,January,2020,02:06:08:45480
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: CNK

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZC0000000   License Plate: CNK-TEST
Mileage: 43370km-26948mi   Repair Order: 01



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (7E0)
Scan: 09 17 19 25

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZC0000000   Mileage: 43370km-26948miles

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 C    HW: 7E0 937 090 C
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0752  
   Revision: B9082001    Serial number: 4000 354171304
   Coding: 3CB02FB848FB2C00933807E0FFEB9FF9F09060EF608D78D0B00400030820
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   VCID: 2B030594830E2ADF4C5-807E

20 Faults Found:
00967 - Left Turn Signals 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:47

00968 - Right Turn Signals 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:47

00886 - Turn Signal Switch (E2) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:48

01758 - Bulbs for Brake Lamps 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:47

00329 - Control Circuit for Unlocking Rear Lid 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:48

00975 - Heated Rear Window (Z1) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:50

00920 - Heated Outside Mirrors; Driver Side (Z4) / Passenger Side (Z5) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:50

00077 - Windshield Wiper Stop Switch (F229) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:47

01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:51

03156 - Sensor for Anti-Theft System (G578) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:51

01326 - Control Module for Multi-Function Steering Wheel (J453) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:51

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:51

01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:51

01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:51

01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:51

01520 - Rain and Light Recognition Sensor (G397) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:51

03591 - Control Circuit for Horn 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:49

02745 - Bulb for Daytime Running Light; Left 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:48

02746 - Bulb for Daytime Running Light; Right 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:48

01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:34:48


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 860 H    HW: 6R0 920 860 H
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140800
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW23.rod
   VCID: 392F2FDC79D2884FCE9-806C

1 Fault Found:
9453074 - Fuel Level Sensor 1 
          B103E 1B [009] - Resistance Too High
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 43375 km
                    Date: 2020.01.21
                    Time: 00:33:45


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 C
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0752  
   Revision: B9082001    
   Coding: 002004
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   VCID: 6889BA985278C1C7617-803C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0505  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC0904CF4F3D7773-803E

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 00:12, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V. VIgn 12.0V)-----
 
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OK, that is somewhat puzzling. I have a half-baked theory, but I need to discuss it with Eric in the office tomorrow before I make myself look dumb by posting it here. ;)

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My suspicion is that 0B is always shown on a 7E0 gateway, I'm having the same in my car.
 
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My suspicion is that 0B is always shown on a 7E0 gateway, I'm having the same in my car.
Hello iichel, I didn't want to bully you on WhatsApp :D

I confirm that, I checked my old BCM 087 (6R0 937 087) with older gateway from Polo 6R - there 0B doesn't appear, so there are probably no errors on my part.

Gateway from old BCM 087:
SW 6N0 909 901
HW: 6R0 937 087
 
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My suspicion is that 0B is always shown on a 7E0 gateway, I'm having the same in my car.
Even if that's the case, it's still a bit strange that it shows up in the list of buttons, but not here:

Code:
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000

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I confirm that, I checked my old BCM 087 (6R0 937 087) with older gateway from Polo 6R - there 0B doesn't appear, so there are probably no errors on my part.
With the Gateway that does exhibit the 0B in the button list, in VCDS, please go to [Options], set Debug Level to 1024, click [Apply] and then go to the Auto-Scan screen and click [Gateway Installation List] button. When after you see the list, go back from the Auto-Scan screen and click [Select] to bring up the button list. When it appears, exit VCDS gracefully. Next, look in your Debug sub-folder. ZIP up any files with current date/time stamps and send them to Support@RT along with a link to this thread.

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The VCDS source is peppered with little nuggets in the comments, such as this almost ten year old one :)
Code:
20100412 on Uwe's insistance: tentative add of 0x0B for 7E/7F
The T5 (which uses the same gateway as a lot of the Polotariat) has a very dumb arrangement where 0x0B exists but on K and not present in the GVL. With VCDS having no way of knowing in advance if that control module is going to be installed along with one of those gateways, we also scan for 0x0B (on the very slow K line) and present it in the installed modules list.
However when VCDS starts an autoscan, the first thing it does is get a VIN, and from that there's a couple easy things we can do to exclude the presence of 0x0B, such as being a 6R , 6J, AA, AT chassis code. That explains why it's not in the autoscan results and scanning list. Santos prompted that tweak when he mentionned how annoying it was that 0x0B was getting scanned for every time on his LOW-NAR Jetta.
When we get the installed modules tab, however, the waiting time for the GVL to populate is already borderline acceptable, and I don't want to lengthen it even further by connecting to the engine (which takes a long time to setup on legacy interfaces) to query a VIN just so the Polotariat can benefit from what would be a cosmetic fix :)
 
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The T5 (which uses the same gateway as a lot of the Polotariat) has a very dumb arrangement where 0x0B exists but on K and not present in the GVL.
Hah! I totally forgot about that! :facepalm:

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