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    GOLF MK 7 1.6TDI UK Model Car Fault Code

    Hi All,
    Hoping someone can help with a fault on my wife's Golf as can't find much on the net (that makes sense to me anyway). She was complaining that the heater wasn't hot and only luke warm air blowing out (outside temp is around -2 at the moment). I reset the flaps which seemed to resolve the issue.

    I then ran a scan and found codes in the HVAC area however when cleared they just come back straight away. Any help would be gratefully received.

    Many Thanks

    Code:
    Sunday,19,January,2020,18:28:20:44739
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x86
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
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    Dealer/Shop Name: DOODY CARS
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZEP007042   License Plate: PY13CFL
    Mileage: 115394km-71702mi   Repair Order: 19-01-2020
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 13 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZEP007042   Mileage: 115394km-71702miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
     
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    Address 01: Engine (J623-CLHA)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04L 906 021 M    HW: 04L 907 309 B
       Component: R4 1,6L EDC   H22 5517  
       Revision: 84H22---    
       Coding: 01110012034505092000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00072
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI01104L906021M 002009
       ROD: EV_ECM16TDI01104L906021P.rod
       VCID: 2F6DC09D76B38F370E-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AA    HW: 5Q0 907 379 G
       Component: ESC           H31 0457  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 615030000005DF
       Coding: 01FA8AA1242009730377060441C52580512490C06082A4F3F440F074C002
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_033_VW37.rod
       VCID: 7BF524CDF24BA397F2-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 5G0-907-426.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 426 M    HW: 5G0 907 426 M
       Component: AC Manuell    H01 0705  
       Revision: 00001K06    
       Coding: 00120104202100001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 003019
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_003.rod
       VCID: 3561F2F594EFB5E744-8060
    
       Fresh Air Blower Front: 
    
       Geber für Kältemitteldruck/Kältemitteltemperatur: 
    
    2 Faults Found:
    1048834 - Functional Limitation due to Energy Management 
              B10CD 00 [008] - -
              [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 102
                        Mileage: 115277 km
                        Date: 2020.01.18
                        Time: 09:06:15
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.5 V
                        Auxiliary heater: in stages-Enabling for auxiliary heater operation: No enabling
                        Auxiliary heater: in stages-Act.val.: 1
                        Auxiliary heater: in stages-Specified value: 3
                        Auxiliary heater: in stages-Specified value for control: 3
    
    1048835 - Functionality limited due to Engine Control Module 
              P1719 00 [008] - -
              [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 13
                        Reset counter: 102
                        Mileage: 115248 km
                        Date: 2020.01.18
                        Time: 08:42:30
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 14.0 V
                        Auxiliary heater: in stages-Enabling for auxiliary heater operation: Enabling stage 3
                        Auxiliary heater: in stages-Act.val.: 1
                        Auxiliary heater: in stages-Specified value: 3
                        Auxiliary heater: in stages-Specified value for control: 3
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 S    HW: 5Q0 937 084 S
       Component: BCM MQBAB M   H14 0112  
       Serial number: 00011314701031
       Coding: 03000842C24102730BA44080B10403281000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 011001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_011.rod
       VCID: 489F8B01F31D380F2F-801C
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G2 955 119 A    HW: 5G2 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    130514  042 0551 
       Serial number:         130523132915
       Coding: 0E4DDD
    
       Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 559     HW: 5Q0 955 559   Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
       Component: RLS  024 0042 
       Serial number: Y13M06D06H06M21S51S4
       Coding: 00A8DD
    
       Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
       Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0313 
       Serial number: 000000000ZY131001SXL
    
       Alarm horn: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
       Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
       Serial number: 00000000000056818445
    
    1 Fault Found:
    197644 - Control Circuit for Fuel Tank Flap 
              B1263 01 [008] - Electrical Failure
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 5
                        Reset counter: 102
                        Mileage: 115238 km
                        Date: 2020.01.17
                        Time: 20:51:31
    
    
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    Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-572-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 A    HW: 5Q0 907 572 A
       Component: ACC Bosch MQB H03 0141  
       Serial number: 01061376510301
       Coding: 00000300FE0339
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001013
       ROD: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372_VW26.rod
       VCID: 3561F2F594EFB5E744-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 M    HW: 5Q0 959 655 M
       Component: AirbagVW20    011 0361  
       Serial number: 003M1R036D0W
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF00C800000065
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00053
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002126
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X.rod
       VCID: 4A9BB109ED11CA1F39-801E
    
       Belt Pretensioner left: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFL  H35 0340 
       Serial number: 34169677B29051340192
       Coding: 333135
    
       Belt Pretensioner right: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFR  H35 0340 
       Serial number: 34169676B31051340410
       Coding: 333135
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 805 13
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 357670000009A2102D0M
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 805 13
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35867000000089402D0M
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 403 105 13
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502AF105EDD2708O
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 403 105 13
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502AF105EDD402CQ
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 705 13
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502BB1050661C21$
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AG    HW: 5Q0 953 549 A
       Component: Lenks. Modul  007 0070  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 06061304220974
       Coding: 0D00
       Shop #: WSC 40195 333 37120
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_009_VW37.rod
       VCID: 7BF524CDF24BA397F2-802E
    
    No ASAM data for: "EV_SMLSKLOMQB" (VW37) 
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
       Part No SW: 5G0 920 961 A    HW: 5G0 920 961 A
       Component: KOMBI         252 2210  
       Coding: 27A41A002780260001882A01040000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008031
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_008_VW37.rod
       VCID: 285F2B81535DD80FCF-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 M    HW: 5Q0 907 530 M
       Component: GW MQB High   212 2147  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 31051310800412
       Coding: 030100040B087300EF00005C080F00010001000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 009011
       ROD: EV_GatewConti_009.rod
       VCID: 3B75E4CDB2CB6397B2-806E
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 K    HW: 5G0 959 442 K  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H14 0035 
       Serial number: 27130000599140053192
       Coding: 2C0000
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 C    HW: 5Q0 915 181 C
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8042 
       Serial number: 7784760603          
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 393     HW: 5Q4 959 393 
       Component: TSG FS        007 0006  
       Serial number: 0000062852575 
       Coding: 003002208001028000001000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 55A1527534AF95E7A4-8000
    
       Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 A    HW: 5Q4 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000001586000
       Coding: 0D0000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 L    HW: 5Q0 909 144 L
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  119 1021  
       Coding: 81
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_008.rod
       VCID: 3D71EAD5ACDF6DA78C-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 392     HW: 5Q4 959 392 
       Component: TSG BFS       007 0006  
       Serial number: 0000062597701 
       Coding: 003000208001028000801000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 7F0DD0DDE653BFB7DE-802A
    
       Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 A    HW: 5Q4 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000001591646
       Coding: 050000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 035 820 A    HW: 5G0 035 820 A
       Component: MU-S-D-ER     040 0421  
       Serial number: V5C00306130506
       Coding: 02730000FF00000021111201002800001F0100060100010001
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002039
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
       VCID: 1F4D305D06131FB7BE-804A
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605     HW: 5G0 919 605 
       Component: ABT_Std_Radio  H44 0020 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9N24035BG      
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:35)--------------------------

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    It's a TDI. It doesn't produce much engine heat, especially not very quickly after starting up. But it does have an auxiliary electric ("PTC") heater.

    The fault codes you have there indicate the HVAC module is reducing the PTC heater output due to requests from the BCM and the ECU respectively. In the first one, the cause is pretty clear: Terminal 30 voltage is only 11.5V and the car doesn't want to pull the battery down lower. The cause for the second where the ECU making the request with the terminal 30 voltage at 14.0V one does not have an obvious (to me) cause.

    Does this car have a start/stop system?

    I'll note that it's a 2014 model. How old is the battery?

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    In addition to Uwe's suggested comments.

    Did you know it's also possible with cold temps like that, the flow of water pump maybe inadequate due to impeller slipping slightly and enough to not push hot coolant through the heater core high point, however, indeed through the engine?

    Additionally did you know a leaky cooling system or expansion tank on suction side or from crack or cap oring failure could also be responsible?


    Did you look at expansion tank for flow of coolant, at idle compared to under loaded throttle?
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    Hi Uwe,
    Many thanks for the reply. The heater is now working fine since I re-calibrated the flaps. The battery is the original on the car from what I can tell so could be contributing to the problem but the car starts and drives fine even at the low temps we are experiencing in the UK at the moment. The only thing I have done fairly recently is changed 2 glow plugs as they failed and registered a glow plug code fault. I only picked this up as my wife told me it was a bit lumpy at start up but ran fine after a couple of minutes. I changed the plugs and its been fine ever since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    In addition to Uwe's suggested comments.

    Did you know it's also possible with cold temps like that, the flow of water pump maybe inadequate due to impeller slipping slightly and enough to not push hot coolant through the heater core high point, however, indeed through the engine?

    Additionally did you know a leaky cooling system or expansion tank on suction side or from crack or cap o ring failure could also be responsible?


    Did you look at expansion tank for flow of coolant, at idle compared to under loaded throttle?
    Hi Jack,
    Thanks for the reply. The water levels are fine and the temp on the car stays rock steady once up to temp. It seems to warm up quite quickly but it is due a cam belt change so will get the pup done as a matter of course at the same time. I drive a Touran and that is OK in low temps and is pretty much the same as the golf but not sure if it has the electric heater that Ewe referred to.

    My Snap On edge also reported the same faults so still not sure what the root cause of the issue it without starting to replace loads of parts and hope I get lucky. :-(

    I will check the cooling system and o rings ect in more detail at the weekend when I have some daylight as its dark too and from work at the moment.

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    The temp gauge is massively buffered, and even when reading 90C, it can be just 75C. The PTC heater adds quite a bit of the warmth during the warm-up phase of the engine - the lack of PTC output is very noticeable.

    While it's never that cold here, the PTC heater in my R32 powered Touran allows the engine to heat much faster, as the heat isn't sucked out of the engine so much by the heater... and I suspect my R32 lump heats up 10X faster than a 1.6 TDI

    If you start the engine cold, and set the heater to full hot, you should notice warmth in about 30 seconds, if the PTC is working - it doesn't get super hot, but it really helps : Mine initially draws nearly 80 amps! So I can understand the load management wanting to control it!

    As Uwe alluded - it may be time for a new battery to keep the management system happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZDubNurd View Post
    The temp gauge is massively buffered, and even when reading 90C, it can be just 75C.
    I'm not sure "buffered" is the right way to describe the behavior of VAG's coolant temperature gauges. The simply lie by displaying 90°C (or 190°F) over wide range of temperatures. They've been that way for several decades, and the behavior is designed in, to keep customers from complaining that the coolant temperature is poorly regulated.

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    They've been that way for several decades, and the behavior is designed in, to keep customers from complaining that the coolant temperature is poorly regulated.
    Basically fraud, what else is new?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZDubNurd View Post
    The temp gauge is massively buffered, and even when reading 90C, it can be just 75C. The PTC heater adds quite a bit of the warmth during the warm-up phase of the engine - the lack of PTC output is very noticeable.

    While it's never that cold here, the PTC heater in my R32 powered Touran allows the engine to heat much faster, as the heat isn't sucked out of the engine so much by the heater... and I suspect my R32 lump heats up 10X faster than a 1.6 TDI

    If you start the engine cold, and set the heater to full hot, you should notice warmth in about 30 seconds, if the PTC is working - it doesn't get super hot, but it really helps : Mine initially draws nearly 80 amps! So I can understand the load management wanting to control it!

    As Uwe alluded - it may be time for a new battery to keep the management system happy.
    Hi Allen,
    I'll try the battery as a first port of call. The car does seem to warm up quickly even in the cold temps so will get a new battery as a matter of course and at least eliminate it as a cause. Does the PTC heater come on even if the engine is already up to temperature ? ......I would have thought it was was an unnecessary use of energy if it did.

    The codes came back after clearing as soon as i stopped and restarted the engine even though it was up to operating temperature.

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    I'm not sure if your PTC is the same as in the MK5s... but mine is in my MK5 based Touran, and it only remains functional until the engine hits 75C. There are other factors, like the requested heat has to be over a certain % of the available heat, minimum engine speed (like 600 RPM or something). There is no battery energy management system though, like you have.

    A battery may help... as Uwe said, it's seeing some low voltages. If the engine is over 75C though, I'd have assumed it wasn't running the PTC though.

    You can log the coolant temp with VCDS, and it will report the measured temperature, instead of the gauge reading. (On my Tourans Climatronic HVAC controller, I can access the secret menu and watch it while I drive... proper nerd style!)
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