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    VW Tiguan MY2012 Bi-Xenon retrofit (no AFS)

    Hi,

    I am trying another retrofit on a VW Tiguan MY2012 from Halogen to Bi-Xenon.
    I did the wiring per some forum posts and WD as follows:

    T10 -> Old connector
    T14 -> New one
    T52 -> BCM

    T10/4 -> T14/12 (-> T52a/8)
    T10/5 -> T14/5 (GND)
    T10/6 -> T14/6 (-> T52c/52)
    T10/7 -> T14/7 (GND)
    T10/8 -> T14/11 (-> T52c/46 - I checked, it goes there, and I do not have pin 49 on bcm)
    T10/9 -> T14/9 (-> T52c/50)
    T10/10 -> T14/10 (-> T52a/44)
    T14/14 -> to GND

    As I did some experiments, currently I have an ugly brick T14/10 and T14/12 and LEDs work, main beams work, high beams do not work. From my understanding and checks everything should be wired correctly and T14/11 is the Shutter and goes to T52c/46 as per WD for this model.

    I checked, the lights have pin 11 so I probably do not need AFS.

    The attached full scan is already after some modifications to coding, original coding of 09 - Bordnetz when the car came to me was: 40180A3B80251AC0400800C0100081E44B010088424D816064 80C700004

    Also note, in this scan the right light is disconnected. There are no fault codes when everything is connected.

    Code:
    Sunday,19,January,2020,11:57:34:09308
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    VIN: WVGZZZ5NZCXXXXXXX   License Plate: BIXENONRETROFIT
    Mileage: 136340km-84717mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 5N-VW36 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 53 56 61 62 72
    
    VIN: WVGZZZ5NZCXXXXXXX  Mileage: 136340km-84717miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFD)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 018 LK    HW: 03L 907 309 AE
       Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H25 9977  
       Revision: 41H25---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 00190032042401080000
       Shop #: WSC 71310 298 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018LK 003013
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018E_VW36.rod
       VCID: 7EF3FDECE1D329BFD5-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 AG    HW: 5N0 614 109 AG
       Component: J104   C6 450M V490 0003  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000004964060
       Coding: 0034104
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       VCID: 70EFD3D463874FCF57-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 ER    HW: 5K0 907 044 ER
       Component: Climatronic   H18 1112  
       Revision: 00001004    
       Coding: 0000004003
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
       VCID: 7F0D00E8E6D920B7DE-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 M    HW: 5K0 937 086 M
       Component: BCM PQ35 M    021 0064  
       Revision: BC021001    
       Coding: 40180A3B80251AC0400800C0100089644B05AB88424D81606484C7000041
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       VCID: 3E733DECA953E9BF95-806A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N1 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS 291011 03  32  0010 
       Coding: 009795
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 136347 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.06.11
                        Time: 23:23:03
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 11.85 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01497 - Bulb for Blinkers; Front Right (M7) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 136347 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.06.11
                        Time: 23:21:19
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 11.85 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    02897 - Supply Voltage for LED Module for DRL and Parking Light; Right 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 136347 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.06.11
                        Time: 23:21:13
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 12.10 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 3AA-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 919 475 L    HW: 4H0 919 475 E
       Component: PARKHILFE PLA H06 0025  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 56261130902304
       Coding: 048203
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2C000000000 002008
       ROD: EV_EPHVA2C000000000.rod
       VCID: 44874F04CFBF836FC3-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 R    HW: 5N0 959 655 R
       Component: J234__206 VW10 HI   1918  
       Revision: 23016000    Serial number: 003K0PMQ4T22  
       Coding: 0012342
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       VCID: 4C9767242FEF4B2F0B-8018
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS652722861 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS622302921 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6T23BFAKR 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6DE8OEAKR 
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 BF    HW: 5K0 953 569 J
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
       Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20111102301428
       Coding: 5180140000
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
       ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
       VCID: 6FEDD0A8B6B950374E-803A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 872 C    HW: 5N0 920 872 C
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0617  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 111F00
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 326B19DC650B3DDF61-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 N    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway H43 1623  
       Revision:   H43       Serial number: 271011F2001446
       Coding: 356002
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       VCID: 3B7534F8BA41FC97B2-806E
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00469 - Infotainment Databus in Single Wire Operation 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 9
                        Reset counter: 183
                        Mileage: 136347 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.06.07
                        Time: 07:23:50
    
    01304 - Radio 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 48
                        Reset counter: 144
                        Mileage: 136347 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.05.16
                        Time: 03:37:19
    
    00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100010
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 183
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0617  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6ADBC1BC8D5BB51F19-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 F    HW: 3C0 959 793 B
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0503  
       Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0003354411
       Coding: 0200BC
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 387F2BF48377D78F5F-806C
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 F    HW: 3C0 959 794 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  007 1504 
       Serial number: 00000006091325      
       Coding: 000090
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 M    HW: 5N1 909 148 G
       Component: J500__APA-BS KL.285 1002  
       Revision: 1AH03836    Serial number: 00113060034801
       Coding: 0000258
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       VCID: 3C7737E47F4FFBAFBB-8068
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01288 - Terminal 30; Steering Assist 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 9
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 183
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        (no units): 2.0
                        Voltage: 4.50 V
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 F    HW: 3C0 959 792 B
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0503  
       Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0003340445
       Coding: 0200BC
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 39792EF0B87DCE87A0-806C
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 F    HW: 3C0 959 795 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  007 1504 
       Serial number: 00000006093846      
       Coding: 000090
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 G    HW: 3AA 907 801 G
       Component: J540 EPB4  VW-64783 0009  
       Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000380410
       Coding: 0026167
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       VCID: 356122C05C652AE744-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: Batt.regelung H43 1623  
       Serial number: 271011F2001446
       Coding: 030F185A
       Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
       VCID: 71E9D6D0A88D46C758-8024
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
       Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180 
       Serial number: 00000000008900933415
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:32)--------------------------
    Any help in getting this to work would be highly appreciated!

    Thanks!

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    I think your BCM is not compatible as it looks like it’s medium and you need high.

    Second as the lights are AFS lights, you need the module so that the lights work correctly.

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    Try to compare your scan with a car with OEM these headlights. I think coding is not ok. As far as I can see byte 18 is ok with AB. But byte 19 needs to be 08 as far as I know. Need some others also to be active.
    Have you did coding?

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    here you go, worth a read, learn something...
    http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=5K0+93...iguan+bi+xenon
    check the very first topic
    There are 3 kind of services
    GOOD CHEAP FAST
    But you can only choose 2:
    GOOD and CHEAP won't be FAST
    FAST and GOOD won't be CHEAP
    CHEAP and FAST won't be GOOD

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    Thanks for all the great info. All of you were right and I am a bit of a doofus.

    1. I did the modification to the BCM and now I get the output on the correct pins
    2. The Byte 19 was indeed wrong and the rear lights did not work as they should. I triple checked and the car came with the stated coding - so my suspision was right. Someone was doing something already.
    3. And the real fail was, that of course this lights do not have pin 11 populated and therefore the shutter does not work.

    So if I understand all the material right, there are some Bi-Xenon lights with shutter on pin 11 that work without AFS? Or is the AFS installation the only way to get Bi-Xenon working on this car?

    Thanks again!

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    there are 2 types of headlights for Tiguan, DLA headlights and regural, DLA don't have pin11 and to get them to work on a car and have high beam you need afs installation, this is OEM. Regular headlights you can connect without afs if bcm supports shutters (pin11) you connect to bcm and you have high beams.
    There are 3 kind of services
    GOOD CHEAP FAST
    But you can only choose 2:
    GOOD and CHEAP won't be FAST
    FAST and GOOD won't be CHEAP
    CHEAP and FAST won't be GOOD

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    ^ And the BCM is still an IF in this case.

    That age Tiguan has most of the parts and is similar in many ways that Golf Plus. I had Golf Plus previously and I did a bixenon retrofit to that. Now I can't remember if the high beams worked without the headlight control module or was that also so that it needed that.

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    Thanks again for all the great info! I guess it's either hunt for an AFS or hunt for the correct headlights

    Just a bit more feedback: I did the modifications to the BCMs PCB as described in the m87a link. So added a driver, pins, etc - checked the coding/measuring blocks so that I got shutter activation and then checked the output and +12V is getting to the pin 11 when high beams are on (after moving the old high beam wires to T52c/48 and 49 respectively). So a medium BCM modification to support xenon shutters (as per m87a link) is possible and feasible if you have a hot air gun and a spare BCM where you can take the chip off (or just order it from ebay).

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