VW Tiguan MY2012 Bi-Xenon retrofit (no AFS)

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Hi,

I am trying another retrofit on a VW Tiguan MY2012 from Halogen to Bi-Xenon.
I did the wiring per some forum posts and WD as follows:

T10 -> Old connector
T14 -> New one
T52 -> BCM

T10/4 -> T14/12 (-> T52a/8)
T10/5 -> T14/5 (GND)
T10/6 -> T14/6 (-> T52c/52)
T10/7 -> T14/7 (GND)
T10/8 -> T14/11 (-> T52c/46 - I checked, it goes there, and I do not have pin 49 on bcm)
T10/9 -> T14/9 (-> T52c/50)
T10/10 -> T14/10 (-> T52a/44)
T14/14 -> to GND

As I did some experiments, currently I have an ugly brick T14/10 and T14/12 and LEDs work, main beams work, high beams do not work. From my understanding and checks everything should be wired correctly and T14/11 is the Shutter and goes to T52c/46 as per WD for this model.

I checked, the lights have pin 11 so I probably do not need AFS.

The attached full scan is already after some modifications to coding, original coding of 09 - Bordnetz when the car came to me was: 40180A3B80251AC0400800C0100081E44B010088424D81606480C700004

Also note, in this scan the right light is disconnected. There are no fault codes when everything is connected.

Code:
Sunday,19,January,2020,11:57:34:09308
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VIN: WVGZZZ5NZCXXXXXXX   License Plate: BIXENONRETROFIT
Mileage: 136340km-84717mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 5N-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 53 56 61 62 72

VIN: WVGZZZ5NZCXXXXXXX  Mileage: 136340km-84717miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFD)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 LK    HW: 03L 907 309 AE
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H25 9977  
   Revision: 41H25---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00190032042401080000
   Shop #: WSC 71310 298 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018LK 003013
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018E_VW36.rod
   VCID: 7EF3FDECE1D329BFD5-802A

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 AG    HW: 5N0 614 109 AG
   Component: J104   C6 450M V490 0003  
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000004964060
   Coding: 0034104
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 70EFD3D463874FCF57-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 ER    HW: 5K0 907 044 ER
   Component: Climatronic   H18 1112  
   Revision: 00001004    
   Coding: 0000004003
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 7F0D00E8E6D920B7DE-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 M    HW: 5K0 937 086 M
   Component: BCM PQ35 M    021 0064  
   Revision: BC021001    
   Coding: 40180A3B80251AC0400800C0100089644B05AB88424D81606484C7000041
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 3E733DECA953E9BF95-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N1 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 291011 03  32  0010 
   Coding: 009795

3 Faults Found:
00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 144
                    Mileage: 136347 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.06.11
                    Time: 23:23:03

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF

01497 - Bulb for Blinkers; Front Right (M7) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 144
                    Mileage: 136347 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.06.11
                    Time: 23:21:19

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF

02897 - Supply Voltage for LED Module for DRL and Parking Light; Right 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 144
                    Mileage: 136347 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.06.11
                    Time: 23:21:13

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 12.10 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 3AA-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 919 475 L    HW: 4H0 919 475 E
   Component: PARKHILFE PLA H06 0025  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 56261130902304
   Coding: 048203
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2C000000000 002008
   ROD: EV_EPHVA2C000000000.rod
   VCID: 44874F04CFBF836FC3-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 R    HW: 5N0 959 655 R
   Component: J234__206 VW10 HI   1918  
   Revision: 23016000    Serial number: 003K0PMQ4T22  
   Coding: 0012342
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 4C9767242FEF4B2F0B-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS652722861 

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS622302921 

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6T23BFAKR 

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6DE8OEAKR 

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 BF    HW: 5K0 953 569 J
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20111102301428
   Coding: 5180140000
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
   ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 6FEDD0A8B6B950374E-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 872 C    HW: 5N0 920 872 C
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0617  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 111F00
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 326B19DC650B3DDF61-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 N    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H43 1623  
   Revision:   H43       Serial number: 271011F2001446
   Coding: 356002
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 3B7534F8BA41FC97B2-806E

3 Faults Found:
00469 - Infotainment Databus in Single Wire Operation 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 183
                    Mileage: 136347 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.06.07
                    Time: 07:23:50

01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 48
                    Reset counter: 144
                    Mileage: 136347 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.05.16
                    Time: 03:37:19

00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 183
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0617  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6ADBC1BC8D5BB51F19-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 F    HW: 3C0 959 793 B
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0503  
   Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0003354411
   Coding: 0200BC
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
   VCID: 387F2BF48377D78F5F-806C

   Slave Driver: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 F    HW: 3C0 959 794 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  007 1504 
   Serial number: 00000006091325      
   Coding: 000090

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 M    HW: 5N1 909 148 G
   Component: J500__APA-BS KL.285 1002  
   Revision: 1AH03836    Serial number: 00113060034801
   Coding: 0000258
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 3C7737E47F4FFBAFBB-8068

1 Fault Found:
01288 - Terminal 30; Steering Assist 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 9
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 183
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    (no units): 2.0
                    Voltage: 4.50 V


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 F    HW: 3C0 959 792 B
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0503  
   Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0003340445
   Coding: 0200BC
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
   VCID: 39792EF0B87DCE87A0-806C

   Slave Passenger: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 F    HW: 3C0 959 795 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  007 1504 
   Serial number: 00000006093846      
   Coding: 000090

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 G    HW: 3AA 907 801 G
   Component: J540 EPB4  VW-64783 0009  
   Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000380410
   Coding: 0026167
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 356122C05C652AE744-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Batt.regelung H43 1623  
   Serial number: 271011F2001446
   Coding: 030F185A
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 71E9D6D0A88D46C758-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180 
   Serial number: 00000000008900933415

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:32)--------------------------

Any help in getting this to work would be highly appreciated!

Thanks!
 
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I think your BCM is not compatible as it looks like it’s medium and you need high.

Second as the lights are AFS lights, you need the module so that the lights work correctly.
 
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Try to compare your scan with a car with OEM these headlights. I think coding is not ok. As far as I can see byte 18 is ok with AB. But byte 19 needs to be 08 as far as I know. Need some others also to be active.
Have you did coding?
 
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Thanks for all the great info. All of you were right and I am a bit of a doofus.

1. I did the modification to the BCM and now I get the output on the correct pins
2. The Byte 19 was indeed wrong and the rear lights did not work as they should. I triple checked and the car came with the stated coding - so my suspision was right. Someone was doing something already.
3. And the real fail was, that of course this lights do not have pin 11 populated and therefore the shutter does not work.

So if I understand all the material right, there are some Bi-Xenon lights with shutter on pin 11 that work without AFS? Or is the AFS installation the only way to get Bi-Xenon working on this car?

Thanks again!
 
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there are 2 types of headlights for Tiguan, DLA headlights and regural, DLA don't have pin11 and to get them to work on a car and have high beam you need afs installation, this is OEM. Regular headlights you can connect without afs if bcm supports shutters (pin11) you connect to bcm and you have high beams.
 
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^ And the BCM is still an IF in this case.

That age Tiguan has most of the parts and is similar in many ways that Golf Plus. I had Golf Plus previously and I did a bixenon retrofit to that. Now I can't remember if the high beams worked without the headlight control module or was that also so that it needed that.
 
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Thanks again for all the great info! I guess it's either hunt for an AFS or hunt for the correct headlights :D

Just a bit more feedback: I did the modifications to the BCMs PCB as described in the m87a link. So added a driver, pins, etc - checked the coding/measuring blocks so that I got shutter activation and then checked the output and +12V is getting to the pin 11 when high beams are on (after moving the old high beam wires to T52c/48 and 49 respectively). So a medium BCM modification to support xenon shutters (as per m87a link) is possible and feasible if you have a hot air gun and a spare BCM where you can take the chip off (or just order it from ebay).
 
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