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    Car wont start after changing clutch, immobilizer key lost com, any help please

    helo all, my colleague changed the clutch on this vehicle, and the car starts for only about 2 seconds cuts off.
    on the dash it says ''SAFE''
    cleared all codes, comes back with same on immo

    anyone come across this before?
    any thought please, thanks again


    Code:
     Saturday,18,January,2020,16:38:59:58999
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: VSSZZZ5PZ9R010587   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 279310km-173555mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 5P (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72
    
    VIN: VSSZZZ5PZ9R010587   Mileage: 279310km-173555miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.clb
       Part No SW: 03G 906 021 SK    HW: 03G 906 021 AN
       Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  1444  
       Revision: --H08---    Serial number: SEX7Z0H631M0EF
       Coding: 0050071
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 7AADF37370D13EA7873-802E
    
    3 Faults Found:
    005488 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer 
                   P1570 - 000 -  - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11110000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 279315 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:03:05
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 1071 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.84 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00001100
                        Bin. Bits: 11000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00100001
    
    005659 - Glowplug for Cylinder 2 (Q11) 
                   P161B - 000 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 279315 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:48
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.31 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00001100
                        Temperature: 20.7C
                        Bin. Bits: 00110000
    
    005661 - Glowplug for Cylinder 4 (Q13) 
                   P161D - 000 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 279315 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:48
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 12.31 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00001100
                        Temperature: 20.7C
                        Bin. Bits: 00110000
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 1K0-907-379-MK70M.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AF    HW: 1K0 907 379 AF
       Component: MABS MK70M          0104  
       Revision: 00H32001    
       Coding: 0016641
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 76B5E74344C95AC7E3B-8022
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
       Part No: 5P0 907 044 K
       Component: ClimatronicPQ35 011 0702  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3829297B0E5DECB7317-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000005852089
       Coding: E1880F2F00041000431800000000000000007F075C400000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00137 211 56823
       VCID: 33331E57173B0FEF045-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5P0 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 160608 022  0601  
       Coding: 00056208
       Shop #: WSC 00137  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1P0 955 559   Labels: 1P0-955-559.CLB
       Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0090  
       Coding: 00152622
       Shop #: WSC 00137  
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00987 - Lamp for Brake Light; Left (M9) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 98
                        Mileage: 279315 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 12.40 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    00988 - Lamp for Brake Light; Right (M10) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 98
                        Mileage: 279315 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 12.40 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 1K0-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 919 475 E    HW: 1K0 919 475 E
       Component: PARKHILFE     005 1406  
       Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 0 263 004 292 
       Coding: 000001
       Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
       VCID: 34311D4B1E3508D71DF-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
       Component: S9 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
       Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD248KGD  
       Coding: 0021305
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 3D27386F217FC99FE21-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME290475389
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME2B560C22C
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME174957718
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME173E33548
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BS    HW: 1K0 953 549 BS
       Component: J0527           752 0101  
       Coding: 0002042
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 04518D8B02157857EDF-8050
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: E0221           001 0010
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01426 - Controls in Steering Wheel (E221) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 5P0 920 927 B
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VO3 0450  
       Coding: 0002401
       Shop #: WSC 00011 067 57207
       VCID: 34311D4B123508D71DF-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0202  
       Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2700K0860482D3
       Coding: E9A07F060002022203
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 3537204F194F11DF2A1-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No: 5P0 920 927 B
       Component: IMMO            VO3 0450  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 34311D4B123508D71DF-8060
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01176 - Key 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 L    HW: 1K0 959 793 P
       Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1520  
       Revision: 71009005    Serial number: 00000364288508
       Coding: 0004784
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 40D9419B568DA477897-8014
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100101
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 98
                        Mileage: 279315 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 77     2301  
       Revision: 00H15000    
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 2A0D0333C0F14E27B73-807E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                000 - - - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Battery Volts: 12.4 V
                            PD
                        Temperature: 9.0C
                        Count: 2
                        Steering Angle: 0.00
                        Count: 0
                            SteerAng n.Init
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
       Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
       Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 988000005183CC7F0006850560085F86107C80
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 03538E97071B7F6FD45-8056
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No: 5P0 951 171 C
       Component: Innenraumueberw.009 4865  
       Coding: 00000000
       Shop #: WSC 06402  
    
       Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
    
       Subsystem 7 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01135 - Interior Monitoring Sensors 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 138
                        Mileage: 279315 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 L    HW: 1K0 959 792 P
       Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1520  
       Revision: 71009005    Serial number: 00000563688513
       Coding: 0004784
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 41DF449F5D87AD7F869-8014
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100101
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 98
                        Mileage: 279315 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101100
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 138
                        Mileage: 279315 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No: 5P2 035 186 A
       Component: Radio BVX           0007  
       Coding: 0040464
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 2F3B1227FB132B0F60D-807A
    
    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error occurred
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AE    HW: 1K0 959 795 R
       Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1401  
       Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000003248988
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 73B3DE5757BB4FEFC45-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AE    HW: 1K0 959 794 R
       Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1401  
       Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000003305626
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 74B1DD4B52B548D7DDF-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 01:30, VBatt start/end: 11.7V/11.6V. VIgn 11.7V)-----
    Last edited by Uwe; 01-18-2020 at 06:09 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Did you check key is proper and D2 coil excites transponder to be seen in Immobilizer measured blocks in VCDS?

    Fuses all good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuhel View Post
    Code:
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No: 5P0 920 927 B
       Component: IMMO            VO3 0450  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 34311D4B123508D71DF-8060
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01176 - Key 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    I don't understand how a clutch job could have caused this, but I've seen stranger coincidences.

    http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/01176

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    Last edited by Uwe; 01-18-2020 at 06:38 PM.
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Now sorted
    I read on a forum maybe here, hold positive and negative battery term together for 30secs and then connect battery, leave jump leads on for 5mins with ignition on if the batterys weak.
    Car started, all working fine now.
    I still dont get why it happened in the first place
    Thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuhel View Post
    Now sorted
    I read on a forum maybe here, hold positive and negative battery term together for 30secs and then connect battery, leave jump leads on for 5mins with ignition on if the batterys weak.
    Car started, all working fine now.
    Nice. That's not the first time we've heard of a procedure we irreverently refer to as a "BJ" (short for "Battery Jesus") has exorcised immobilizer problems that came out of nowhere.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Did you leave the battery connected while trying to take a trans out and removing the chassis ground or half the hots or short it on body?

    Ever notice how a loud fart for odor may go unnoticed but a small one could insult yourself or even the family dog?
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    On a VW PQ platform vehicle, removing the battery is pretty much inevitable when the trans has to come out - the battery tray is sitting on the trans side mount.

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