Where is J533?

tultalk · Jan 12, 2020

Old thread in Audiworld response by Ross-Tech *: "J533 is the CAN Gateway, integrated into the Instrument Cluster."

In what models is J533 integrated into the instrument cluster?

Will it show up on the schematic as "inside" the J285 "block"?

Thanks

Robert

* 10-8-2007 Andy@Ross-Tech
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Jack@European_Parts · Jan 12, 2020

Open up WD in each application in RTFB to determine what is what or use auto-scan's to a degree to determine by part numbers displayed in software.

tultalk · Jan 12, 2020

J533

Jack@European_Parts said:
Open up WD in each application in RTFB to determine what is what or use auto-scan's to a degree to determine by part numbers displayed in software.

Hi:

I can do that searching for J533 within the J285 block in WD for each vehicle.

Kind of thought that the Ross Tech comment (although old) indicated that this information might be readily at hand.

Jack@European_Parts · Jan 12, 2020

And you need this specific information why, kind of seems like a waste of time to compile when each scan or observation of RTFB will show it?

Uwe · Jan 12, 2020

I don't know about the rest of the crew, but I don't keep mental track of where a control module is (or whether it's a virtual module hiding inside another module) for every model of VW-Audi Group car ever produced.

I may happen to know it for some models, so if you have a model specific question, feel free to ask.

-Uwe-

Jack@European_Parts · Jan 12, 2020

When wanting to know a location of a module it would be best to use WD and component finder.

As for how many or which modules embed a gateway in cluster I believe the answer is, a lot of them but not all of them.

tultalk · Feb 5, 2020

"I may happen to know it for some models, so if you have a model specific question, feel free to ask. "

A6C5 Quattro 4.2l. Various statements say J533 embedded in J285. Searched WD and could not identify anything that would support that idea. I would think that J533 would be indicated within the J285 block along with for example the radio controlled clock

tultalk · Feb 6, 2020

Several people have posted that 2003 A6 Quattro 4.2 does not have CAN. According to WD it does.
Also J533 in 285. Does embedded J533 provide same functionality/access as stand alone J533?
Are the CAN-high CAN-low in J285(embedded J533) same as CAN-high CAN-low in J533 external module?

Jack@European_Parts · Feb 6, 2020

Several people have posted that 2003 A6 Quattro 4.2 does not have CAN. According to WD it does.
Also J533 in 285. Does embedded J533 provide same functionality/access as stand alone J533?
Are the CAN-high CAN-low in J285(embedded J533) same as CAN-high CAN-low in J533 external module?

Does it not have an internal W-CAN high/low not a bus for direct access at DLC?

Do you see a CAN twisted pair at DLC and are you sure it isn't the internal sub network among modules and don't those cars support a dual K & L line too?

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...-you-should-have-a-baseline-understanding-of-!

tultalk · Feb 6, 2020

"Does it not have an internal W-CAN high/low" I din;t undderstand what a W-CAN high/low is.
Yrs it has K & L Can't look at DLC right now.. All circuit diagrams lead me to believe it is CAN as was the 2002 butt auto scan shows no CAN (address 19). That is part of my question. Does the embedded J533 show up as address 19 CAN Gateway?

Jack@European_Parts · Feb 6, 2020

"Does it not have an internal W-CAN high/low" I din;t undderstand what a W-CAN high/low is.
Yrs it has K & L Can't look at DLC right now.. All circuit diagrams lead me to believe it is CAN as was the 2002 butt auto scan shows no CAN (address 19). That is part of my question. Does the embedded J533 show up as address 19 CAN Gateway?

You better RTFB & maybe an SSP for design & function............ :rolleyes:

Uwe · Feb 6, 2020

tultalk said:
Several people have posted that 2003 A6 Quattro 4.2 does not have CAN. According to WD it does.

It uses CAN for communications between modules internally, but no for diagnostic communications to the outside world.

Think of it like having ethernet in your house, but using dial-up (or DSL) to connect to the outside world.

-Uwe-

tultalk · Feb 6, 2020

So this virtual J533 embedded in the J285 is not the same as the stand alone J533? I have a cluster apart and there is an awful lot of stuff in there for what it does. Anyone have a circuit diagram/component ID for the cluster?

tultalk · Feb 6, 2020

Jack@European_Parts said:
You better RTFB & maybe an SSP for design & function............

I have Bentley and I have found no SSP for 2003 A6.

Jack@European_Parts · Feb 6, 2020

Look for ME 7 SSP and VW/Audi ECU generations SSP

Stop asking for stuff in the RTFB and review it there.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Official_Factory_Repair_Information

PetrolDave · Feb 7, 2020

tultalk said:
I have Bentley and I have found no SSP for 2003 A6.

Tried looking on erWin?

tultalk · Feb 7, 2020

Not a real friendly response. Are you a Ross-Teck employee or a hanger on?

Jack@European_Parts said:
Look for ME 7 SSP and VW/Audi ECU generations SSP

Neither applicable

Stop asking for stuff in the RTFB and review it there.

Info I seek not in Bentley

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Official_Factory_Repair_Information

erWin no go back to 2003

Jack@European_Parts · Feb 7, 2020

Not a real friendly response. Are you a Ross-Teck employee or a hanger on?

NOPE just an asshole trying to help a fellow compatriot realize their laziness & lack of attention to details, do you see it?

erWin no go back to 2003

No huh, so what is so friendly about asking the forum to purport issues for illegal unlawful content?

Did you Google it already? Well will ya?

...........

I'm sorry you believe this and doubt my intent huh?

http://www.vaglinks.com/vaglinks_com/Docs/SSP/VWUSA.COM_SSP_941003_Audi_Engine_Management.pdf

http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_238.pdf

http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_269_d1.pdf

https://www.snapon.com/Files/Diagno...leCommunicationSoftwareManual_EAZ0031B01D.pdf

tultalk · Feb 7, 2020

Clarification of purpose: I want to add a stand alone J533 to my 2003 which has the virtual J533 embedded in J285.
1. Why? Because I want to
2. Should not pose problems?

Jack@European_Parts · Feb 7, 2020

Clarification of purpose: I want to add a stand alone J533 to my 2003 which has the virtual J533 embedded in J285.
1. Why? Because I want to
2. Should not pose problems?

About time you used some proper disclosed goals known, huh?

You do realize people cant guess what it is you want if you are evasive & cryptic?

Than take to retrofit area but did you see the prior post here?

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?21477-Where-is-J533&p=191219&viewfull=1#post191219

You can do whatever the hell you want, just as it's in the correct area because this area is for repairs that comport, did you know that?

https://forums.ross-tech.com/forumdisplay.php?10-Retrofits

JPPSG

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot

What you want is induced FOD punishment and that is fine by me?

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