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    Limp mode on transporter after engine change

    Hello from Norway , have a transporter 2012 2,0 tdi som i change engine in. The New engine are from 2014. I use the ecu to the old engine , because the ecu to the New (used engine) dont talk to the imobilizer. I have Clear all fault code witout one som not can Clear . The code is b104135 sender for oil temprature and Level . The sender in this engine have the same part number som the other sender.
    when engine idling the injection quantity is -0.04 mg/stroke on 1 , -0.36 mg/stroke on 2 , -0,54 mg/stroke on 3 and 0.91 mg/stroke on 4.

    Can someone help me , i have dont code the injector to the ecu.

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    Please post an Auto-Scan for context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Please post an Auto-Scan for context.

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    Code:
    Wednesday,15,January,2020,10:55:50:51217
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    
    
    
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                    Address 17: Instruments       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
    Control Module Part Number: 7E0 920 860 E    HW: 7E0 920 860 E
      Component and/or Version: KOMBI         H04 0305
               Software Coding: 160A00
                Work Shop Code: WSC 02736 790 50316
                  ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113 (VN75)
                           ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
                          VCID: AA189AD8CD37B81F59-80FE
    1 Fault Found:
    
    9453842 - Oil Level Thermal Sensor 
              B1041 35 [009] - Signal high time > maximum
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 69
                        Mileage: 101293 km
                        Date: 2088.14.18
                        Time: 16:59:19
    
    
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    Address 17,7E0 920 860 E,channel IDE00492-MAS00900-ESI: Coding of Service Interval Extension (SIE)-Oil level,adapted from,Oil level evaluation ,to,no oil level evaluation ,
    
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    Address 17: DTCs cleared
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    Address 17: DTCs cleared
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    Address 17: DTCs cleared
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    Address 17: DTCs cleared
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    Address 17: DTCs cleared
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    Address 09: DTCs cleared
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    Address 17: DTCs cleared
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    Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness  --  Address 7E8
    
    Number of DTCs stored: 0  --  MIL Status: MIL OFF
    Misfire monitoring: Not installed.
    Fuel System:  Passed
    Comprehensive Components:  Passed
    Catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
    Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
    Evaporative system monitoring: Not installed.
    Secondary air system monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
    A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
    Oxygen sensor monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
    Oxygen sensor heater monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
    Exhaust Gas Recirculation:  Failed or Incomplete
    
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    Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness  --  Address 7E8
    
    Number of DTCs stored: 0  --  MIL Status: MIL OFF
    Misfire monitoring: Not installed.
    Fuel System:  Passed
    Comprehensive Components:  Passed
    Catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
    Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
    Evaporative system monitoring: Not installed.
    Secondary air system monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
    A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
    Oxygen sensor monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
    Oxygen sensor heater monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
    Exhaust Gas Recirculation:  Failed or Incomplete
    
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    Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness  --  Address 7E8
    
    Number of DTCs stored: 0  --  MIL Status: MIL OFF
    Misfire monitoring: Not installed.
    Fuel System:  Passed
    Comprehensive Components:  Passed
    Catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
    Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
    Evaporative system monitoring: Not installed.
    Secondary air system monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
    A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
    Oxygen sensor monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
    Oxygen sensor heater monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
    Exhaust Gas Recirculation:  Failed or Incomplete
    
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    VCDS Release 19.6.2:  SRI Reset-SRI1.CLB
    Control Module Part Number: 7E0 920 860 E       Labels:  .*5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
    Component:KOMBI         H04 0305, Coding:160A00
    Operation: Please select an operation
    ************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
    Channel                                                                                             	Description                                                 	Current val.                                                	New val.  
    IDE00342-ESI: Resetting ESI                                                                         	ESI: Service Reminder Status                                	Warning active                                              	---       
    IDE00510-ESI: distance driven from inspection                                                       	ESI: Distance since Inspection                              	15500 km                                                    	---       
    IDE00511-ESI: time from inspection                                                                  	ESI: Time since Inspection                                  	483 d                                                       	---       
    IDE00515-ESI: oil quality                                                                           	ESI: Oil Quality                                            	poor oil quality                                            	---       
    IDE00517-ESI: soot entry                                                                            	ESI: Soot Quantity                                          	86800 km                                                    	---       
    IDE00518-ESI: thermal load                                                                          	ESI: Thermal Load                                           	14900 km                                                    	---       
    IDE01153-SIA: maximum value of distance to service                                                  	SIA: Maximum Distance to Service                            	20000 km                                                    	---       
    IDE01154-SIA: maximum value of time to service                                                      	SIA: Maximum Time to Service                                	372 d                                                       	---       
                                                                                                        	FIX: Maximum Distance to Inspection                         	---                                                         	---       
                                                                                                        	FIX: Maximum Time to Inspection                             	---                                                         	---       
                                                                                                        	FIX: Distance since Inspection                              	---                                                         	---       
                                                                                                        	FIX: Time since Inspection                                  	---                                                         	---       
    ************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
    
    Wednesday,15,January,2020,12:41:48:51217
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    
    
    
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    Readiness Status: 00000000 00001110 11101000 11101000
    MIL Status: MIL OFF
    Comprehensive Components: Passed
    Fuel System: Passed
    Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Failed or Incomplete
    Number of EOBD-related DTC(s): 0
    Last edited by Uwe; 01-15-2020 at 10:40 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Why did the car go in limp mode , please help .I try to change oil Level/temp sensor , the same fault . I change the engine With a used engine. Someone som could help

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    That's not an auto scan. See below on how to post one.

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    VCDS
    Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: Release 19.6.2(x64) Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    Dealer/Shop Name:
    Workshop Code: 000 00000 000000
    Self-Diagnosis Log
    Wednesday,15,January,2020,12:23:24:51217
    VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZCH088683 License Plate:
    Mileage: 101290km-62938mi Repair Order:
    Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 18 19 22 25 56 69 6E 0B
    VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZCH088683 Mileage: 101290km-62938miles
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
    6E-Ctrl Head Roof -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAAC) Labels:. 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
    Part No SW: 03L 906 019 DK HW: 03L 907 309 K
    Component: R4 2,0L EDC H43 9135
    Revision: 26H43--- Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 0119401A231600080000
    Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019DK 002007
    ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019DK.rod
    VCID: F7BE73AC4E05D5F716-80A2
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
    Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 J HW: 7E0 907 379 E
    Component: ESP MK25A XT H43 0109
    Revision: 00H43001
    Coding: 508724AD91AC0A9D24A88979696110
    Shop #: WSC 02736 790 49152
    VCID: B93AB5943091038720-80EC
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    VCDS
    Self-Diagnosis Log
    Wednesday,15,January,2020,12:23:24:51217
    Page 2
    VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZCH088683 License Plate:
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
    Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 AS HW: 7E5 907 047 AS
    Component: Climatic-T5 H19 0404
    Revision: 00001009
    Coding: 0000000002
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
    ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
    VCID: 804C18701BCB924F27-80D4
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
    Part No SW: 7H0 937 086 H HW: 7H0 937 086
    Component: BCM T5GP M++4 H47 0254
    Revision: BM047001 Serial number: 0428 003120764
    Coding: A0A0303A0E212033002008102D2B8CD40010430F60060000300000000000
    Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
    VCID: B83CB0900B9B1A8FDF-80EC
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 HW: 7E0 959 801 Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
    Component: J386__TSG_FT 002 3311
    Serial number: --------------------
    Coding: 000000
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 HW: 7E0 959 802 Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
    Component: J387__TSG_BT 002 3311
    Serial number: --------------------
    Coding: 000000
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
    Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B HW: 7E0 959 655 B
    Component: VW10Airbag003 H06 0013
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 003HL009PJV$
    Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003033
    Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
    ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
    ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
    VCID: B522B9A41489E7E7C4-80E0
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    VCDS
    Self-Diagnosis Log
    Wednesday,15,January,2020,12:23:24:51217
    Page 3
    VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZCH088683 License Plate:
    Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
    Part No SW: 7E0 920 860 E HW: 7E0 920 860 E
    Component: KOMBI H04 0305
    Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 160A00
    Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
    ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
    ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
    VCID: AA189AD8CD37B81F59-80FE
    1 Fault Found:
    9453842 - Oil Level Thermal Sensor
    B1041 35 [009] - Signal high time > maximum
    Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 69
    Mileage: 101293 km
    Date: 2020.01.15
    Time: 18:31:34
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: None
    Part No: 7E0 819 008 D
    Component: J737__Standheizung 0605
    Revision: 00084000 Serial number: 09019169F00000
    Coding: 0001322
    Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
    VCID: AA189AD80537B81F59-80FE
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
    Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 086
    Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H47 0254
    Revision: BM047001
    Coding: 042200
    Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
    VCID: F0AC48B0236B82CFD7-80A4
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    VCDS
    Self-Diagnosis Log
    Wednesday,15,January,2020,12:23:24:51217
    Page 4
    VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZCH088683 License Plate:
    Address 22: AWD Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 09N 907 554 B HW: 09N 907 554 B
    Component: Haldex 4Motion 6008
    Coding: 0000001
    Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
    VCID: B73EB3ACC68515F7D6-80E2
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
    Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
    Component: IMMO H04 0305
    Serial number:
    Coding: 000000
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
    ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
    VCID: EA985AD80DB7781F99-80BE
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
    Part No SW: 5M0 035 186 J HW: 5M0 035 186 J
    Component: Radio RCD310 042 0082
    Revision: 01000001 Serial number: VWZ1Z2L3612626
    Coding: 05000200020014
    Shop #: WSC 02734 790 00000
    VCID: B32687BC12FDF9D7EA-80E6
    1 Fault Found:
    03138 - Input AUX IN
    011 - Open Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101011
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 69
    Mileage: 101293 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2014.06.07
    Time: 18:31:46
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    VCDS
    Self-Diagnosis Log
    Wednesday,15,January,2020,12:23:24:51217
    Page 5
    VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZCH088683 License Plate:
    Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F HW: 1K0 907 383 F
    Component: Anhaenger H09 0100
    Revision: 3A001001 Serial number: 00000164355308
    Coding: 410D000100000000
    Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
    VCID: B02C88B0E3EBC2CF97-80E4
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6E: Ctrl Head Roof (J702) Labels:. 7E5-919-037-W2.clb
    Part No SW: 7E5 919 037 G HW: 7E5 919 037 G
    Component: Dachdisplay H15 0175
    Revision: 10100010 Serial number: 230202
    Coding: 000203
    Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
    VCID: B522B9A41C89E7E7C4-80E0
    No fault code found.
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:31, VBatt start/end: 11.6V/12.0V)-----------
    Last edited by Uwe; 01-15-2020 at 10:39 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Her is the autoscan , i try to change the temp/oil Level sensor , but the same. Can not Clear the fault code , the fault code com back. i have only change the engine , all whas ok before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senjamann View Post
    Can someone help me , i have dont code the injector to the ecu.
    The ECU does have Adaptation channels ( IDE00263 - IDE00266) for Injector Correction values. Those values are printed on the injectors themselves:



    But the problem is that when you enter new values into these channels, the ECU assumes the injectors are brand-new and it loses whatever compensation factor it has (or should have) for wear on the injectors. So it may be best if you install the injectors from the old engine, which the ECU already knows, and has wear compensation values for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    The ECU does have Adaptation channels ( IDE00263 - IDE00266) for Injector Correction values. Those values are printed on the injectors themselves:

    But the problem is that when you enter new values into these channels, the ECU assumes the injectors are brand-new and it loses whatever compensation factor it has (or should have) for wear on the injectors. So it may be best if you install the injectors from the old engine, which the ECU already knows, and has wear compensation values for.

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    I try to put they injector som from the old engine , buth the whas a fault With they . but i have the ecu to the New engine , only is the imobilizer.How shall i code the imobilizer to the ecu. when i put the ecu to the New engine i can not start the car , it com up in display imobilizer.I have coded all 4 injector som are on the New engine( 40000km ) to the old ecu,
    Last edited by Uwe; 01-15-2020 at 06:40 PM. Reason: Snipped Quote

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    where did i find the pin code on the engine ecu? i want to put the ecu som are to the New engine in the car and nead to find the pin code to old and New ecu. i want to do this

    Prerequisites:

    The REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU is installed in the car.
    Battery voltage at least 12.5 V.
    All relevant coding and adaptation values have been transferred from the ORIGINAL (OLD) ECU to the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU.
    Make sure to have BOTH PIN's, from the ORIGINAL (OLD) and the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU.
    Make sure to have the Radio Code (for factory radios only).
    Complete the following steps using one of the original vehicle keys! A new key that is not authorized/matched to the Instrument cluster can prevent successful ECU matching.


    [Select]
    [01 - Engine]


    [Login - 11]
    For the following procedure, use the PIN of the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU.

    4-digit PIN The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number in the New Value box. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.


    [Do it!]



    [Adaptation - 10]
    Enter 050 in "Channel Number".
    [Read]
    For the following procedure, use the PIN of the ORIGINAL (OLD) ECU.

    4-digit PIN The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.


    [Test]

    The values may change to "32000", this is normal

    [Save]
    [Done, Go Back]
    [Close Controller, Go Back - 06]




    Switch OFF the ignition and let the car sit for ~1 minute, then switch ON the ignition again.
    Verify that the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU now shows the VIN and if supported IMMO-ID of the vehicle now.
    Verify that the REPLACEMENT (USED) ECU has the same Coding as the original unit, or code it from scratch using the repair manual or coding chart in VCDS when applicable.

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