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    MK4 cluster swap

    Hi, I have a 2003 jetta tdi standard, the customer wants to install a cluster from his parts car a 2005 jetta tdi bew standard as well. The reason he wants this done is because how the cluster looks. There is a current security code but ignore it, is caused by an aftermarket spare key sometimes doesn't read. I have security pin codes from both cars I understand the vin has to be written, coded and program the keys. The wiring diagram looks the same does anyone know if the cluster is compatible with this car.Mario

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    Auto-scan and part numbers would be a great start + go to retrofits........

    Why not just swap the face plate?
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    Give part numbers please for both clusters

    If you know how to use an eeprom reader, i can move the data from old cluster to new cluster for you very simply too, as well as radio code etc so everything will function correctly

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    Sorry i forgot to post auto scan, new cluster # vw1j5920806Q VDO A2C53031735

    Code:
    Tuesday,07,January,2020,22:08:39:15785
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
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    VIN: 3VWSP29M93M124983   License Plate: ETHAN   VW
    Mileage: 328910km-204375mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 9M (9M - VW Jetta IV (1998 > 2014))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57
              75 76
     
    VIN: 3VWSP29M93M124983   Mileage: 328910km-204375miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-012-AGR.clb
       Part No: 038 906 012 GN
       Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G600SG  4308  
       Coding: 00002
       Shop #: WSC 93377  
       VCID: 62C01712EE72185FEF-4B00
       3VWSP29M93M124983     VWZ7Z0B6209707
    
    1 Fault Found:
    17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer 
                P1570 - 35-10 -  - Intermittent
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 907 379 L
       Component: ABS FRONT MK60      0101  
       Coding: 0004097
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 336EA2565108C1D754-513C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
       Component: 1N AIRBAG VW51 02   0006  
       Coding: 12622
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 22405712AEF2585FAF-5120
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
       Part No: 1J0 920 806 L
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V64  
       Coding: 07332
       Shop #: WSC 88888  
       VCID: 3064AD5AF01EFACF29-5120
       3VWSP29M93M124983     VWZ7Z0B6209707
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01176 - Key 
                07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
    01304 - Radio 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
       Part No: 6N0 909 901 
       Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
       Coding: 00006
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 70E46D5A309EBACF69-5120
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                49-00 - No Communications
    01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
                49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    
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    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
       Component: 1H Komfortgerát HLO 0003  
       Coding: 00258
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 3776964615702DF768-4B00
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
       Component: 1H Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0009  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
       Component: 1H Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0009  
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
       Component: 1H Tőrsteuer.HL KLO 0009  
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
       Component: 1H Tőrsteuer.HR KLO 0009  
    
    6 Faults Found:
    01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
                49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01179 - Incorrect Key Programming 
                35-00 - -
    00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220) 
                27-00 - Implausible Signal
    00929 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Passenger Side (F221) 
                27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222) 
                27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    00931 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Right (F223) 
                27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:29)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 01-09-2020 at 09:31 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Cluster will work ,I have done many of them.
    Use Immobilizer 3 cluster matching procedure and you should be Ok if you have both SKC , from original and form 2005 cluster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Auto-scan and part numbers would be a great start + go to retrofits........

    Why not just swap the face plate?
    Black and silver cluster face , Speed , Tach , Temp and fuel gauge scale is not same , it will be off set.
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    Maybe Marin but many are swappable in past anything 02.5> should indeed be Immo 3.

    Happy New Year by the way haven't seen you in while.

    I think OP should be more concerned with D2 coil being weak possibly/key issue or consider defeat since an old POS anyway, definitely better than being stuck!
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    Moving to Retrofits.

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    All good now, new cluster is working. I took to long and battery died i also put the wrong pin and locked me out had to leave key on for a few minutes. Just google mk4 swap and tons of videos the hard part is getting the pin codes from both clusters. Thank you for your help, new cluster looks much better.Mario

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