MK4 cluster swap

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Hi, I have a 2003 jetta tdi standard, the customer wants to install a cluster from his parts car a 2005 jetta tdi bew standard as well. The reason he wants this done is because how the cluster looks. There is a current security code but ignore it, is caused by an aftermarket spare key sometimes doesn't read. I have security pin codes from both cars I understand the vin has to be written, coded and program the keys. The wiring diagram looks the same does anyone know if the cluster is compatible with this car.Mario
 
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Auto-scan and part numbers would be a great start + go to retrofits........

Why not just swap the face plate?
 
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Give part numbers please for both clusters

If you know how to use an eeprom reader, i can move the data from old cluster to new cluster for you very simply too, as well as radio code etc so everything will function correctly
 
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Sorry i forgot to post auto scan, new cluster # vw1j5920806Q VDO A2C53031735

Code: 
Tuesday,07,January,2020,22:08:39:15785
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWSP29M93M124983   License Plate: ETHAN   VW
Mileage: 328910km-204375mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 9M (9M - VW Jetta IV (1998 > 2014))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57
          75 76
 
VIN: 3VWSP29M93M124983   Mileage: 328910km-204375miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-012-AGR.clb
   Part No: 038 906 012 GN
   Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G600SG  4308  
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 93377  
   VCID: 62C01712EE72185FEF-4B00
   3VWSP29M93M124983     VWZ7Z0B6209707

1 Fault Found:
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer 
            P1570 - 35-10 -  - Intermittent
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 L
   Component: ABS FRONT MK60      0101  
   Coding: 0004097
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 336EA2565108C1D754-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
   Component: 1N AIRBAG VW51 02   0006  
   Coding: 12622
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 22405712AEF2585FAF-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 806 L
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V64  
   Coding: 07332
   Shop #: WSC 88888  
   VCID: 3064AD5AF01EFACF29-5120
   3VWSP29M93M124983     VWZ7Z0B6209707

2 Faults Found:
01176 - Key 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 70E46D5A309EBACF69-5120

2 Faults Found:
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: 1H Komfortgerát HLO 0003  
   Coding: 00258
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 3776964615702DF768-4B00

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0009  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0009  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0009  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0009  

6 Faults Found:
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01179 - Incorrect Key Programming 
            35-00 - -
00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220) 
            27-00 - Implausible Signal
00929 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Passenger Side (F221) 
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222) 
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00931 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Right (F223) 
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Cluster will work ,I have done many of them.
Use Immobilizer 3 cluster matching procedure and you should be Ok if you have both SKC , from original and form 2005 cluster.
 
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Maybe Marin but many are swappable in past anything 02.5> should indeed be Immo 3.

Happy New Year by the way haven't seen you in while.

I think OP should be more concerned with D2 coil being weak possibly/key issue or consider defeat since an old POS anyway, definitely better than being stuck!
 
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Moving to Retrofits.

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All good now, new cluster is working. I took to long and battery died i also put the wrong pin and locked me out had to leave key on for a few minutes. Just google mk4 swap and tons of videos the hard part is getting the pin codes from both clusters. Thank you for your help, new cluster looks much better.Mario
 
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