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    Audi S5 DL501 0B5 DSG 7 speed Jerk issue

    Hi All

    Long time VCDS user / VAG owner/Tuner

    I have an issue with my own S5 2010

    It has had a replacement TCU 18 moths ago and has been fine until I decided to run Clutch engagement point adaption.

    since doing so it has a nasty jerk when selecting 1st (common issue it seems) but was fine before
    I have re run adaptions as per DrPeters instruction and tried cluctch enganement at process at different temps etc to no avail.

    Its an 8K5927156H 0009 / H06 0B5927156K
    latest SW version etc

    does anyone have any help as it was not doing this before I ran the adaption

    Thanks in Advance

    Woody

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    Please post a full unedited VCDS Auto-Scan so we can see exactly what hardware and software versions the modules in your S5 have.

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    Code:
    Monday,30,December,2019,15:25:53:35713
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8FXAN021448   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 152520km-94771mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8F-AU48 (8T0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 10 14 15 16 17 19 1B 26 30 36 42 46 47
              52 53 55 56 5F 62 6C 72
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8FXAN021448   Mileage: 152520km-94771miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    1B-Active Steering -- Status: OK 0000
    26-Auto Roof -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    30-Special Function II -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAKA)       Labels:. 06E-907-551-CAK.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 551     HW: 8K0 907 551 
       Component: 3.0T SIMOS84  X06 0006  
       Revision: --X06---    
       Coding: 011C000C240F0128
       Shop #: WSC 00078 790 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS8K0907551 A02008
       ROD: EV_ECM30TFS0218K0907551C.rod
       VCID: 6ED3B97FB11C843F45-803A
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0110 0001
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0B5-927-156.clb
       Part No SW: 8K5 927 156 H    HW: 0B5 927 156 K
       Component: 0B5 30TFSIRdW H06 0009  
       Revision: --H06---    Serial number: 0000000783
       Coding: 000001
       Shop #: WSC 04940 001 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDL501021 A03005
       ROD: EV_TCMDL501021_A03.rod
       VCID: 3E73493FA1FC34BF95-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 BE    HW: 8K0 907 379 BE
       Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0030  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 292D08
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 7DF18E33E47AEFA7CC-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DP    HW: 8K0 907 064 DP
       Component: BCM2 1.1      H02 0327  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 013300
       Shop #: WSC 02399 823 56573
       VCID: 0109F2C398828B47A8-8054
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 Q    HW: 8T0 959 754 Q
       Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H37 0060 
       Serial number: 0510000010361007    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
       Component: J764 ELV MLB  H37 0042 
       Serial number: 0210000022737004    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass (J521)       Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 C    HW: 8T0 959 760 C
       Component: MEM-BFS       H10 0074  
       Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001010095189
       Coding: 00217025002C00000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 438538CBC21E5957FA-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb
       Part No SW: 8T2 820 043 AG    HW: 8T2 820 043 AG
       Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0171  
       Revision: D1000000    Serial number: 01040320100616
       Coding: 66170000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 77FD9C1BC646C5F796-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 P    HW: 8K0 907 063 P
       Component: BCM1 1.0      H25 0380  
       Revision: 10025001    Serial number: 00000000610315
       Coding: 260050914134AF311F09000300005D5D4F9DC2CA00010141000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 3C774337BFE026AFBB-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8F2 955 119     HW: 8K2 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS 260210  H05 0021 
       Serial number: SWF10020265070      
       Coding: 00FD11
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLS  H04 0003 
       Serial number: 10814431            
       Coding: 02562A
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AL    HW: 8K0 941 531 AL
       Component: E1 - LDS  H08 0090 
       Serial number: 00000000002502101329
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 8K0-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 R    HW: 8K0 919 475 A
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0070  
       Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 50941006907303
       Coding: 300102
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 489F2FE7FB387A0F2F-801C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8R0 907 364 B    HW: 8K0 907 364 
       Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H09 0053  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 04031000860003
       Coding: 050181
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 39795A23B0D21387A0-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 8F0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 8F0 959 655     HW: 8F0 959 655 
       Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H10 0430  
       Serial number: 003A4D0670FF  
       Coding: 30363635353130303030554A305238463053
       Shop #: WSC 02135 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU485 001004
       ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010.rod
       VCID: 75E19613D44AB7E784-8020
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6334MSME4F502B14F
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6344MSME5063493EI
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6352QSME6454042EG
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6362QSME09541526A
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 63732SME2E560F345
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 63832SME23534912T
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 G    HW: 8K0 953 568 G
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H16 0014  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 90304JC2000MQ 
       Coding: 000036
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 3E73493FA9FC34BF95-806A
    
       Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0010 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 920 981 M    HW: 8T0 920 981 M
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H34 0255  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: CSI5AD33A     
       Coding: 236F190033002600010000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 468321DFF12C6C7FDD-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 AD    HW: 8T0 907 468 K
       Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0116  
       Revision: EB900055    Serial number: 5500E1022780A2
       Coding: 00C303
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 0305F8CB829E9957BA-8056
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 E    HW: 8K0 915 181 E
       Component: J367-BDM  H07 0170 
       Serial number: 1000D27F050310      
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03041 - Energy Management Active 
                000 - - - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 1B: Active Steering (J792)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 144 D    HW: 8K0 907 144 D
       Component: DYNAMIKLENK.  H06 0570  
       Revision: 50001005    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 8C0000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 306F670763A8D2CF17-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 26: Auto Roof (J256)       Labels:* 8F0-959-255.clb
       Part No SW: 8F0 959 255     HW: 8F0 959 255 
       Component: VSG-AUDI-B8   H10 0170  
       Coding: 010000
       Shop #: WSC 02135 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ElectRoofContr 001007
       ROD: EV_ElectRoofContr.rod
       VCID: 71E9A203A0229BC758-8024
    
    2 Faults Found:
    0020 - Convertible Top Compartment Switch; Left 
              B1181 29 [008] - Signal Implausible
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    0021 - Convertible Top Compartment Switch; Right 
              B1182 29 [008] - Signal Implausible
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 30: Special Function II (J843)       Labels: 8K0-907-440.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 440 B    HW: 8K0 907 440 
       Component: STS           H04 0020  
       Revision: S0H04000    Serial number: 00000000014177
       Coding: 01010101000000000000000102
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56541
       VCID: 2D517E73749ABF273C-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 C    HW: 8T0 959 760 C
       Component: MEM-FS        H10 0074  
       Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001010095074
       Coding: 00397325002C00000000
       Shop #: WSC 00134 210 91052
       VCID: 438538CBC21E5957FA-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 H    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
       Component: TSG FA        H11 0308  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000010289046 
       Coding: 011C42725E29330C03
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 458126D3CC2A6767D4-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DP    HW: 8K0 907 064 DP
       Component: BCM2 1.1      H02 0327  
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0127666624    
       Coding: 011B06A200390CA00330033280000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 0109F2C398828B47A8-8054
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P7 951 177 
       Component: DWA-Sensor  H03 0040 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
       Part No SW: 8F0 035 223 D    HW: 8F0 035 223 C
       Component: DSP Prem      H10 0190  
       Revision: 00010001    Serial number: 34863000403602
       VCID: 2149924338426B4788-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 H    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
       Component: TSG BF        H11 0308  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000010241300 
       Coding: 011C42325E29330C03
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 44873BD7C7105E6FC3-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H    HW: 8K0 907 801 H
       Component: EPB Audi B8   H09 0100  
       Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 10000000455914
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 34676B1797B0EEEF73-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
       Part No: 8K0 907 357 B
       Component: Dynamische LWR  H02 0010  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
       VCID: 34676B1757B0EEEF73-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 4F0 035 053 B    HW: 4F0 035 053 
       Component: Radio U Basic H45 0020  
       Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 341CU0A7713187
       Coding: 010003010000000101
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 1C37A3B71F2046AF5B-8048
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
       Part No SW: 8R2 035 670 M    HW: 8R2 035 670 E
       Component: H-BNT-EU      H48 1036  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 208L00D7512836
       Coding: 140101030206E1FF45804F5D00000403040000000100000102
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 3E73493FA9FC34BF95-806A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 FK
       Component: EUR 2018/2019  2702 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 919 604     HW: 4F0 919 604 
       Component: DU7 High  H43 0306 
       Serial number: 9356CH0A1214331     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611 K    HW: 8T0 919 611 B
       Component: E0380 Bedient  H02 0030 
       Serial number: 00000001529588      
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 F
       Component: CD-Database  5571 
    
    4 Faults Found:
    03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption 
                000 - -
    02169 - Front Right Microphone (R141) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    01524 - Antenna for Telephone 
                011 - Open Circuit
    03623 - Invalid Security/Release Code 
                000 - -
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 E    HW: 4F0 959 795 L
       Component: TSG HL        H10 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000103109179 
       Coding: 010C02324029370C03
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 44873BD7C7105E6FC3-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
       Part No SW: 8F0 907 441     HW: 4L0 907 441 B
       Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
       Revision: --H03---    Serial number: 525PA8-J02B0BN
       Coding: 1023009
       Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
       VCID: 67DDCC5B56E6557706-8032
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 E    HW: 4F0 959 795 L
       Component: TSG HR        H10 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000103109180 
       Coding: 010C02324029370C03
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 44873BD7C7105E6FC3-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:11)--------------------------

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodysjw View Post
    It has had a replacement TCU 18 moths ago and has been fine until I decided to run Clutch engagement point adaption.
    Did you follow a written procedure for this? I don't have one handy, but VCDS does tell you right on the tin, and in the product manual, that running Basic Settings willy-nilly without following the appropriate procedures can produce undesirable results.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Yes I followed the updated version by DrPeter and have done many times since but an unable to solve this jerk

    I’ve flashed with latest frf etc
    But doesn’t make any difference

    Between 40-60degrees etc


    Does anyone know if it’s clutch balance calibration or clutch engagement point
    I should be doing

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