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Hello! 
Audi A3 -02, 1,6l Gasoline engine.
The old instrument panel does not work properly for all hands/displays. Problems appear cold.
The car owner had purchased a instrument cluster from a car dismantler.
Original and broken instrument cluster part number: 8L0920900L. New used instrument cluster part number: 8L0920900C.
I tried to adapt the new used instrument, but the attempt fails to Determining IMMO-ID & VIN (Instrument Cluster) . The VCDS does not display the car's VIN.
I have tried to do this by the end of vin code without views, but coding stops at this point the error message: VALUE SYSTEM NOT OK
ORIGINAL INSTRUCTIONS
How we can continue to adapt to the new used instrument?
- Can the fault be in the instrument cluster? upgrade from newer model to older model (L-> C)
- The car has a Pioneer 2-Din media player. Can this cause the coding to fail?
- I watched this tutorial video. At the beginning of the video are advised to go to 19 - CAN Gateway and copy data soft coding-section. We tried this too, but vcds can't connect to the 19-CAN Gateway. Is this necessary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erNsVXzaeSI
Auto-Scan with new used instrument cluster
Audi A3 -02, 1,6l Gasoline engine.
The old instrument panel does not work properly for all hands/displays. Problems appear cold.
The car owner had purchased a instrument cluster from a car dismantler.
Original and broken instrument cluster part number: 8L0920900L. New used instrument cluster part number: 8L0920900C.
I tried to adapt the new used instrument, but the attempt fails to Determining IMMO-ID & VIN (Instrument Cluster) . The VCDS does not display the car's VIN.
I have tried to do this by the end of vin code without views, but coding stops at this point the error message: VALUE SYSTEM NOT OK
Code:
[Adaptation - 10]
Enter 050 in "Channel Number".
[Read]
For the following procedure, use the PIN of the OLD (ORIGINAL) instrument cluster.
4-digit PIN
Enter zero followed by the 4-digit PIN directly in the New Value field. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.
[Test]
The values may change to "32000", this is normal
[Save]
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
Switch OFF the ignition and let the car sit for ~1 minute, then switch ON the ignition again.
Verify that the REPLACEMENT (NEW or USED) instrument cluster now shows the VIN/IMMO-ID of the vehicle now.
Code:
Determining IMMO-ID & VIN (ECU)
[Select]
[01 - Engine]
Look at the first "Extra" field. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
---OR---
[Select]
[01 - Engine]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Select Block 081.
[Go!]
The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID..
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
Determining IMMO-ID & VIN (Instrument Cluster)
[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
Look at the first "Extra" field. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
---OR---
[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Select Block 081.
[Go!]
The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID..
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
Instrument Cluster Swapping
Prerequisites:
The new or used cluster is installed in the car.
Battery voltage at least 12.0 V.
All relevant coding and adaptation values have been transferred from the OLD (ORIGINAL) cluster to the REPLACEMENT (NEW or USED) cluster.
Immo 3 Audi vehicles typically use adaptation channels 060, 061 and 062 for the internal installation list since they do not have address 19-CAN Gateway. If in question, run a complete Adaptation Control Module Map with the old module installed.
Immo 3 VW vehicles typically use short coding in address 19-CAN Gateway. If the original value is 00006, which is common, recode the new unit to the same value to refresh the internal gateway installation list.
Make sure to have BOTH PIN's, from the OLD (ORIGINAL) and the REPLACEMENT (NEW or USED) instrument cluster.
Make sure to have the Radio Code (for factory radios only).
[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
[Login - 11]
For the following procedure, use the PIN of the REPLACEMENT (NEW or USED) instrument cluster.
4-digit PIN
Enter zero followed by the 4-digit PIN directly in the Login field. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.
[Do it!]
[Adaptation - 10]
Enter 050 in "Channel Number".
[Read]
For the following procedure, use the PIN of the OLD (ORIGINAL) instrument cluster.
4-digit PIN
Enter zero followed by the 4-digit PIN directly in the New Value field. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.
[Test]
The values may change to "32000", this is normal
[Save]
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
Switch OFF the ignition and let the car sit for ~1 minute, then switch ON the ignition again.
Verify that the REPLACEMENT (NEW or USED) instrument cluster now shows the VIN/IMMO-ID of the vehicle now.
Proceed with Key Matching now.
Enter the odometer reading (brand new clusters only) using these instructions from the Ross-Tech website
Special Notes
Instructions for mileage entry on a new instrument cluster can be found here: Non-Immo Instrument Cluster Swapping
Please note the Country Coding and Kilometer -or- Mile units prior to saving the adaptation value!
If "Disabled" is shown in Adaptation Channel 050, the Instrument Cluster may have lock time. Check Measuring Blocks 022, 023 and 024.How we can continue to adapt to the new used instrument?
- Can the fault be in the instrument cluster? upgrade from newer model to older model (L-> C)
- The car has a Pioneer 2-Din media player. Can this cause the coding to fail?
- I watched this tutorial video. At the beginning of the video are advised to go to 19 - CAN Gateway and copy data soft coding-section. We tried this too, but vcds can't connect to the 19-CAN Gateway. Is this necessary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erNsVXzaeSI
Auto-Scan with new used instrument cluster
Code:
Saturday,14,December,2019,18:27:52:00464
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
Dealer/Shop Name: J.P
Mileage: 311600km-193619mi Repair Order:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Chassis Type: 8L - Audi A3/S3 (1997 > 2005)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 22 35 37 45 55 56 57 75 76
Mileage: 311600km-193619miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-033-AVU.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 033 J
Component: SIMOS33 1,6l 2V 00HS3488
Coding: 00211
Shop #: WSC 01236
VCID: 2615F68F61F7103793B-5184
WAUZZZ8L821004596 AUZ5Z0A8064075
4 Faults Found:
17701 - Map Controlled Engine Cooling Thermostat (F265)
P1293 - 35-00 - Short to Plus
17811 - EGR System
P1403 - 35-00 - Regulation Deviation
18058 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1650 - 35-10 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
P1570 - 35-00 -
Readiness: 0000 1000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
Part No: 1C0 907 379 E
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0104
Coding: 0011266
Shop #: WSC 01236 785 00200
VCID: 2C0104A77A1B2A6745F-51A8
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No: 8L0 820 043 J
Component: A3 KLIMAAUTOMAT 0105
Coding: 01040
Shop #: WSC 01236
VCID: 2F3B13AB4E0D517F60D-259E
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8L0-959-655-AI8.lbl
Part No: 8L0 959 655 K
Component: Airbag Front+Kopf 5008
Coding: 00304
Shop #: WSC 01236
VCID: 46D5560FC1B7F037B3B-5184
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8L0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 8L0 920 900 C
Component: AB-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D09
Coding: 08142
Shop #: WSC 00222
VCID: 2B0307BB7A152D5F4C5-5184
Component: AUZ7Z0X1277269
ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ AUZ7Z0X1277269
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 35: Centr. Locks Labels:. 8D0-862-257.clb
Part No: 8D0 862 257 B
Component: ZV-Pumpe, Funk D16
Coding: 14913
Shop #: WSC 01236
VCID: 2C0104A77F1B2A6745F-4F2E
No fault code found.
End----------(Elapsed Time: 03:36, VBatt start/end: 12.5V/12.2V)-----------
