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    Labels: Redir Fail! ???

    Hi.

    I'm new to the forum and I believe my first post here. I'm total noob using VCDS, so bare with me. I have HEX-V2 USB cable and I registered it to my Huawei mate D windows 10 machine. The car is 2006 T5 2.5 TDi AXE automatic gearbox. Also the car has been REMAPPED 208bhp 460Nm.


    I have 2 problems(or more depending if this is the culprit for the other problems or not):


    1. When reading fault codes I got two Labels: Redir Fail! messages. One on Address 01: Engine and the other on Address 08: Auto HVAC. What does this mean exactly? Should I be worried?

    Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
    Part No SW: 070 906 016 BD HW: 028 101 183 5
    Component: R5 2,5L EDC G000AG 7001
    Revision: 12345678 Serial number: VWZ7Z0F3418451
    Coding: 0001075
    Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
    VCID: 53F37D1407EFFB2F245-5184

    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: Redir Fail!
    Part No: 7H0 820 045 AC
    Component: CLIMA/AC 0303
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 6695B4C0A47D7E8753B-513C

    I did some googling and found out that there are others with 128kw axe engine who have posted their VCDS readings and have the same label reading error. So, I looked in my computer c:\ross-tech\vcds\labels(+ .old and .older) folders and I couldn't find anything AXE related in any of them. However I did find 070-906-016-BPC.clb and 070-906-016-AXD.clb files. I would guess there should also be 070-906-016-AXE.clb files, am I right? But why is it missing if there should be one and how does it differ from the other two?



    2. Missing of the labels bring me to the second problem. The protocol is KWP2000 and when trying to check the fuel rail pressure in channel 106, VCDS looses connectivity and and the cable starts to blink with red light. Also when manually using fuel lift pump in channel 035, the pump works maximum of around 30 seconds and the drop down menu is greyed out. Not sure if this is because the remap, or the label redir fail or both? In this tutorial the drop down menu is not greyed out, but mine is? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZYJjMNfQ-I

    I have not been using much VCDS and since I'm total nbeginner with it, I yet can't tell which is normal and which is not. But as of now, I feel I can't access all the data I should and it is because one of these problems.

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    As a general rule, "Labels: Redir Fail!" means that a label exists in some language version of VCDS, but not the one you are using. Distributors of various language versions often make their own labels for systems that are common in their markets. In this case, it exists in the German version, but not English.

    What makes you think this TDI engine has fuel rail pressure in group 106? In fact, this is a PumpeDuese (PD Unit Injector) engine, not a Common Rail, so there is no "Rail Pressure" anywhere.

    As for your lift pump activation, 30 seconds is a typical time-out for such things. That limitation is in the ECU software, not VCDS. The drop-down is grayed out because VCDS didn't find a label file, but that has no effect on the functionality.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanlife View Post
    I would guess there should also be 070-906-016-AXE.clb files, am I right?
    You could get a copy of 070-906-016-AXE.lbl and 7Hx-820-045.LBL from german vcds.
    Or send RT Controller Channels Maps and wait couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    As a general rule, "Labels: Redir Fail!" means that a label exists in some language version of VCDS, but not the one you are using. Distributors of various language versions often make their own labels for systems that are common in their markets. In this case, it exists in the German version, but not English.
    So basically what you are saying, my English VCDS not finding label for the modules doesn't matter and doesn't affect anything? Otherwise I don't see the reason this localization when there clearly are same cars all over Europe and possible VCDS customers everywhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    What makes you think this TDI engine has fuel rail pressure in group 106? In fact, this is a PumpeDuese (PD Unit Injector) engine, not a Common Rail, so there is no "Rail Pressure" anywhere.
    Yeah, my bad. Didn't really do my research before asking. I was googling if there are possibility to test fuel rail pressure of my 5 pot T5 axe engine, if it may have crack in the head.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    As for your lift pump activation, 30 seconds is a typical time-out for such things. That limitation is in the ECU software, not VCDS. The drop-down is grayed out because VCDS didn't find a label file, but that has no effect on the functionality.

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    I'm not trying to say there is limitation on VCDS, but you just confirmed that under the labels there are some functions? So I can just install German vcds and copy the labels from there to my English version? Or is this completely pointless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanlife View Post
    So I can just install German vcds and copy the labels from there to my English version? Or is this completely pointless?
    Yes, in this case that should be possible. Copy 070-906-016-AXE.lbl from Labels/DRV/ in the German version to Labels/User/ in the English version.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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