JDM import B6 A4 Avant 5.7ABS CODING INFO

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Hoping this forum can reach someone with more info on this type of thing than I. Have this JDM imported 03 A4 2.0L N/A CVT/FWD which has presented an odd problem. Two modules were gifted to me with instructions to "make it work". Neither module has any softcoding present (00000), and so far aside from vcds, I've attempted coding with vas5052, auto logic..... The login codes/coding I've tried have resulted in no coding being saved. I can't post autoscan now, but only two faults are the obvious: module incorrectly coded and g85 no/incorrect basic settings.
Any help is appreciated!!


Code:
VIN: WAUZZZ8E64A111246   License Plate: 
Mileage: 98860km-61428mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
          67 69 75 76 77
 
VIN: WAUZZZ8E64A111246   Mileage: 98860km-61428miles
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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01J-927-156.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 910 155 E    HW: 01J 927 156 JK
   Component: V30 01J 2.0l 5V RdW 3120  
   Revision: 00000008    Serial number: 00000002102755
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 63016 001 1048576
   VCID: 275D03BB95E0A977C6-5140

1 Fault Found:
18259 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1851 - 000 - Missing Message from ABS Controller - Intermittent

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 614 517 A
   Component: ABS/ESP allrad      3429  
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 26430EBFC2EAB07FFD-5140

4 Faults Found:
00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left  (G47) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
18256 - Please check DTC Memory of Engine Controller 
            P1848 - 35-10 -  - Intermittent
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            66-10 - Not Matched - Intermittent
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            35-00 - -

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 820 043 AC
   Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   1424  
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 79800  
   VCID: 62CB52AFEE420C5FD1-5122

3 Faults Found:
01273 - Fresh Air Blower (V2) 
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            79-00 - Please Check Fault Codes

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 907 279 F
   Component: int. Lastmodul  RDW 0517  
   Coding: 00011
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 3561D9F30F4CCBE744-4B02

3 Faults Found:
01496 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Left (L22) 
            57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure
01500 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Right (L23) 
            57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            79-00 - Please Check Fault Codes

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 959 655 B
   Component: Airbag 8.4EP        3002  
   Coding: 0010702
   Shop #: WSC 63251 000 00000
   VCID: 3663DEFF424AC0FF4D-5140

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 953 549 S
   Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0611  
   Coding: 01012
   Shop #: WSC 63251  
   VCID: 4385B72B51986557FA-4B02

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 920 900 L
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D37  
   Coding: 02500
   Shop #: WSC 60462  
   VCID: 2D51F193E71C83273C-5140
   WAUZZZ8E64A111246     AUZ6Z0C0283970

5 Faults Found:
01039 - Coolant Temperature Sensor (G2) 
            30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17) 
            30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01304 - Radio 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No: 8E0 959 433 BB
   Component: Komfortgerát T7B    1411  
   Coding: 07104
   Shop #: WSC 07130  
   VCID: 72EB22EF3EA29CDFA1-4B02

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E2959802
   Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0003  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E2959801
   Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0003  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0004  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0004  

7 Faults Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
00956 - Key 2 
            35-00 - -
01705 - Selection Switch for Mirror-Adjust (E48) 
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388) 
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
            53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 4Z7 907 357 
   Component: dynamische LWR       D09  
   Coding: 00060
   Shop #: WSC 63251  
   VCID: 040774371416A26F83-4B34

2 Faults Found:
01535 - Control Circuit for Right Headlight Range Adjusting Motor (V49) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01534 - Control Circuit for Left Headlight Range Adjusting Motor (V48) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus

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Welcome to the VCDS forum.

OP could you please post a complete auto-scan and part numbers of what it is you are doing?

Did you follow the RTFB or wiki procedure?

Sure sounds like FOD huh?
 
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I'll add the ABS module info ASAP.
If the routine coding procedures had worked, I wouldn't be posting this!
Clever acronyms aside Jack, I'm simply looking for help from users regarding a login as VCDS only lists NAR options for login this vehicle (if i'm assuming correctly).
AutoScan will be added momentarily; note module in autoscan is original
 
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Vehicle Identification No.WAUZZZ8E64A111246
Modelaudi a4 av. 2.0
A4
Date of production06.10.2003
Model year2004
Sales type8E50BH
Engine CodeALT
Transmission CodeGHV


Emission standard7GEEmission standard EU4 for Japan



PART NUMBERDESCRIPTIONREMARKMODEL
8H0998375
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repair kit8E0614517
8E0614517L

LEGACY
fr.wheel drv-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
Part No: 8E0 614 517 A


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Vehicle Identification No.WAUZZZ8E64A111246
Modelaudi a4 av. 2.0
A4
Date of production06.10.2003
Model year2004
Sales type8E50BH
Engine CodeALT
Transmission CodeGHV


Emission standard7GEEmission standard EU4 for Japan



PART NUMBERDESCRIPTIONREMARKMODEL
8H0998375
fod-control-signs-risk-series.png
repair kit8E0614517
8E0614517L

LEGACY
fr.wheel drv-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
Part No: 8E0 614 517 A


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I'm not quite sure how this is helping.....
 
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It should help considering you have the wrong part number installed in your scan & the correct part numbers have been given to you including legacy numbers, no?

How does this not help you?
Are you saying you are looking to retrofit a wrong module?

Why is the engine config missing from the scan?
 
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It should help considering you have the wrong part number installed in your scan & the correct part numbers have been given to you including legacy numbers, no?

How does this not help you?
Are you saying you are looking to retrofit a wrong module?

Why is the engine config missing from the scan?

The module that is currently installed is without a suffix as earlier stated, part number 8EO614517. Autoscan was performed with the "module that was originally installed" according to the owner (obviously not).
Again, with the run of the mill login/coding module will not accept coding with any of the login codes I've used, and the vehicle RPO sticker is missing (par for the course). You're not aware of any login codes that pertain to the Japanese market vehicles? I dont see why they would be any different, as EU vehicles were equipped with the same options.

EDIT: My apologies, i did not add the info in the original reply notifying that the module installed in the vehicle RIGHT NOW is a 8E0 614517
 
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The module that is currently installed is without a suffix as earlier stated, part number 8EO614517. Autoscan was performed with the "module that was originally installed" according to the owner (obviously not).
Again, with the run of the mill login/coding module will not accept coding with any of the login codes I've used, and the vehicle RPO sticker is missing (par for the course). You're not aware of any login codes that pertain to the Japanese market vehicles? I dont see why they would be any different, as EU vehicles were equipped with the same options.

EDIT: My apologies, i did not add the info in the original reply notifying that the module installed in the vehicle RIGHT NOW is a 8E0 614517

Again, could you please post a complete auto-scan and including the correct part numbers and engine ECU which is currently vacant in the aforementioned vehicle scan?

Is your true location Canada or Japan and indeed you know I am aware, I'm just not sharing & until you comport with basic procedures, isn't that fair?

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Did you JPPSG yet?

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot

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Agreed, however, why purport to perpetuate this mindset?

NostraJackASS can be and is indeed an ASShole, even admittedly, will continue to be so & in the spirit/interest of everyone's safety and qualified repairs to be accomplished!

 
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Your module in the scan suggests it's an AWD (allrad) one:

Code:
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 614 517 A
   Component: ABS/ESP allrad      3429  
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 26430EBFC2EAB07FFD-5140

Without the correct part number, it's unlikely you'll simply be able to "code" it, unless it just happens to conveniently be one that's compatible and has different options, that are also compatible.

When people do work out which ones swap over, it's usually by trial and error, or good investigative guesswork :D VW/Audi have a list of replacement units (that Jack showed). A different suffix on the end isn't a super-cession, it can mean a totally different module compatibility range.

If you really want to get this thing going, find the correct ABS module. Then get it back to it's rightful owner... before that trans explodes ;)

(Or, do a manual conversion, which is probably what your now-fitted ABS part number is compatible with :D)
 
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Your module in the scan suggests it's an AWD (allrad) one:

Code:
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 614 517 A
   Component: ABS/ESP allrad      3429  
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 26430EBFC2EAB07FFD-5140

Without the correct part number, it's unlikely you'll simply be able to "code" it, unless it just happens to conveniently be one that's compatible and has different options, that are also compatible.

When people do work out which ones swap over, it's usually by trial and error, or good investigative guesswork :D VW/Audi have a list of replacement units (that Jack showed). A different suffix on the end isn't a super-cession, it can mean a totally different module compatibility range.

If you really want to get this thing going, find the correct ABS module. Then get it back to it's rightful owner... before that trans explodes ;)

(Or, do a manual conversion, which is probably what your now-fitted ABS part number is compatible with :D)

Correct module is currently in the vehicle, as stated above. The one fitted during the AutoScan was one provided by the customer as his "diag" for the wheel speed sensor signal faults he was dealing with.
Original module is correct part number 8E0 614 517.
 
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Correct module is currently in the vehicle, as stated above. The one fitted during the AutoScan was one provided by the customer as his "diag" for the wheel speed sensor signal faults he was dealing with.
Original module is correct part number 8E0 614 517.


Yes we have heard all that, can you now please stop equivocating & post a new complete auto-scan and containing the missing engine control module and existing ABS module of record now regardless of your aforementioned statement?

Did you know that "stated income home loans" often were defaulted on?

Why are you dismissing these simple requests?
 
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You'd think with your attention to detail you'd see that my location (third line under my username) states I'm in Canada, but yes, I'm in Canada and the vehicle is imported from Japan.
As none of the pertinent data required to code the module is listed in 01, I don't see it as an issue.
Ive managed to login with three separate login codes based on vehicle equipment (and suspected brake packages), and have coding not accepted. Ive been through this with VCDS quite a few times before, and the VAS 5052 always managed to perform the function.
Login Codes i have tried thus far
09479
09379
09579
09679

As the PR sticker has been kindly removed by someone, the brake package is unknown (aside from physical measurements). Every local dealer within our surrounding area also has issues sourcing this for reasons unbeknownst to me
 
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You'd think with your attention to detail you'd see that my location (third line under my username) states I'm in Canada, but yes, I'm in Canada and the vehicle is imported from Japan.
As none of the pertinent data required to code the module is listed in 01, I don't see it as an issue.
Ive managed to login with three separate login codes based on vehicle equipment (and suspected brake packages), and have coding not accepted. Ive been through this with VCDS quite a few times before, and the VAS 5052 always managed to perform the function.
Login Codes i have tried thus far
09479
09379
09579
09679

As the PR sticker has been kindly removed by someone, the brake package is unknown (aside from physical measurements). Every local dealer within our surrounding area also has issues sourcing this for reasons unbeknownst to me


And he feels he must PIVOT to continue to equivocate and dismiss the forum requests and post gibberish & as is if he knows, however, is here asking for help being argumentative, why?

Another pattern behavior confirmed........

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And he feels he must PIVOT to continue to equivocate and dismiss the forum requests and post gibberish & as is if he knows, however, is here asking for help being argumentative, why?

Another pattern behavior confirmed........

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Cars fixed, so you can save your breath to condescend someone else! appreciate all the "help"
 
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Yeah great I'm proud of you OP what was the solution for it being "fixed"?

What was the scope of the repair or did you use a scope? :p

Please post a complete full auto-scan, you know like you didn't from beginning, right?
 
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Yeah great I'm proud of you OP what was the solution for it being "fixed"?

What was the scope of the repair or did you use a scope? :p

Please post a complete full auto-scan, you know like you didn't from beginning, right?

I actually just cut all the wires and plugged the scope into them until the waveform correlated to the login code on the rising edge of can high. Super simple, can't believe i didn't think of it earlier
 
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