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    A6 C6 Electric seat wont go up

    The electric drivers front seat in my 2009 A6 3.0 TDI Lemans wont go up or down on the button. The front section under the knees will move but not the main up and down of the seat

    All other functions of the seat work ok.

    Are the motors fused separately ? or would it be likely to be the switch itself ?

    Would be grateful for any help

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    Can you post a scan please. If the motor's gone it should point to an electrical failure

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    I ran a scan last night and there were no fault codes.

    I will run another scan later and post the results

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    You probably don't need to run another scan. Post the one from last night. Even if you didn't explicitly save it, VCDS did so anyway. Look in the Scans sub-folder.

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    Here is my scan

    Code:
    Chassis Type: 4F-AU56 (4F0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 42 46 4F 52 53 55 56 5F 62
              72 76
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ4F09N045307   Mileage: 296830km-184441miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CDY)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 4F9 910 402 A    HW: 4F0 907 401 E
       Component: 3.0TDI EDC17G000AG  0080  
       Revision: 16H01---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 010D002C190F0128
       Shop #: WSC 26214 051 00000
       VCID: 2447D91CE74A8E6FDD-8070
    
    1 Fault Found:
    009263 - Diesel Particulate Filter (Bank 1) 
                   P242F - 000 - Restricted/Clogged
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 294857 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.11.11
                        Time: 17:55:11
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        (no units): 4.5
                        (no units): 18.0
                        Mileage: 160 km
                        Time: 0.00 s
                        (no units): 3.0
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F2 910 156 Q    HW: 09L 927 156 C
       Component: AG6 09L 3,0 TDI RdW 0030  
       Revision: --H04---    Serial number:        4510608
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 33652A4052A419D754-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AL    HW: 4F0 614 517 BA
       Component: ESP8 quattro    H03 0060  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0020876
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 6ED3FB347906743F7B-803A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B    HW: 4F0 905 852 D
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H05 0100  
       Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 10602601274903
       Coding: 0000147
       Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
       VCID: 2541C418EC707767CA-8070
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 E
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H03 0020
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 D
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG   H01 0040
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 B    HW: 4F2 820 043 AA
       Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0070  
       Revision: 00000073    Serial number: 00000000608027
       Coding: 0001302
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 1D31ECF8C420BFA792-8048
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 N    HW: 4F0 907 279 
       Component: ILM Fahrer      H22 0320  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
       Coding: 0013121
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 3467295C57AA1EEF4D-8060
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F2 910 113 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer AudiC6  H10 0040  
       Coding: 00056595
       Shop #: WSC 02335  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0003  
       Coding: 00146221
       Shop #: WSC 02335  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0E: Media Player 1 (R41)       Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 110 L    HW: 4E0 035 110 A
       Component: CDC-MP3-Pana  H47 0050  
       Revision: 00000012    
       VCID: 2149D00838589B47B6-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 4F0-910-655-10.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 L    HW: 4F0 959 655 E
       Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0090  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003CH003NS55
       Coding: 30314236303630303033554A305234463053
       Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
       ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
       VCID: 306F254C6BB222CF29-8064
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3574SRB400008114F15 
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3584SRB40000812CF2EF
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 35152RB402V7IPVCTCV+
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 35252RB40318CLJAR47%
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3554NRB4000047ED220 
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3564NRB4000047E2C698
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A    HW: 4F0 953 549 D
       Component: J0527               0530  
       Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 90055090230548
       Coding: 0102142
       Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
       VCID: 275DCE10967C6577F8-8072
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: E0221           H02 0030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 4F0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 920 983 B    HW: 4F0 920 983 B
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H06 0135  
       Revision: 00100000    Serial number: AE920AKD8     
       Coding: 2357120502002600010400
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 2B5532204A9441171C-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 4F0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 K    HW: 4F0 907 468 F
       Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0025  
       Revision: 4LA80024    Serial number: 2400L092088093
       Coding: 000303
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 377D1E5086DCF5F768-8062
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 C    HW: 8K0 915 181 C
       Component: J367-BDM  H07 0107 
       Serial number: 00000000004140443244
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 4F0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 959 793 R    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
       Component: TSG FA        H11 0250  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000100723307 
       Coding: 011F06204041410001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 46836394F1369C7FE3-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 J    HW: 4F0 907 289 J
       Component: Komfortgeraet   H27 0220  
       Revision: 02200027    Serial number: 01171317770000
       Coding: 0140027
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 31692048A8B82BC726-8064
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 177 
       Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 A
       Component: ILM Beifahrer   H13 0100  
       Revision:             Serial number: 00000000617163
       Coding: 0001103
       Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
       VCID: 5EB3ABF489A6E4BFCB-800A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 4F0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 959 792 R    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
       Component: TSG BF        H11 0250  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000100763730 
       Coding: 011F06204041410001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 45816498CC309767EA-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 D    HW: 4F0 907 801 B
       Component: EPB  CEFC0090   H05 0090  
       Revision: --H05---    
       Coding: 0000321
       Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
       VCID: 2149D008F8589B47B6-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
       Part No: 8P0 907 357 H
       Component: Dynamische LWR  H02 0010  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 3F8D76706EECCDB7A0-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 4F0 035 061 B    HW: 4F0 035 061 
       Component: Radio U DAB   H45 0020  
       Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 343BU097517680
       Coding: 010103020100000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 1B35E2E01A34B1976C-804E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 035 666 B    HW: 4E0 035 666 
       Component: H-BN-EU       H64 0047  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 345BY097547184
       Coding: 010101010302C3ED01000715EF6300030001
       Shop #: WSC 00441 210 91426
       VCID: 2541C4182C707767CA-8070
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 C
       Component: EUROPE 2008  5608 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 919 604     HW: 4F0 919 604 
       Component: DU7 High  H43 0306 
       Serial number: 9356BU091064784     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 609 E    HW: 4F2 919 611 M
       Component: Bedienteil MM  H01 0060 
       Serial number: 00000001262251      
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
       Component: TSG HL        H10 0251  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000100761897 
       Coding: 010E04204041220001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 43857A80C204A957C4-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
       Component: TSG HR        H10 0251  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000100760875 
       Coding: 010E04204041220001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 43857A80C204A957C4-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 283     HW: 4L0 919 283 
       Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H02 0400  
       Revision: 00H02000    Serial number: 13730904203450
       Coding: 0201016
       Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
       VCID: 67DD8E1056FCA57738-8032
    
    No fault code found.

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    Are the seats fully electric? From the factory, these have their own diagnostic addresses 06 and 36. Since these are completely missing in your autoscan, I'd presume these seats are retrofitted at some point?

    Should have only one fuse, which can mean the up-down motor itself can be faulty.

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    Mmm. When you press the button can you hear the motor spinning? If so then it's likely to be mechanical, if not then it's a case of removal and testing the wires for power.
    Sometimes removal and refit of plugs and cleaning contacts sorts the problem out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siLc View Post
    Are the seats fully electric? From the factory, these have their own diagnostic addresses 06 and 36. Since these are completely missing in your autoscan, I'd presume these seats are retrofitted at some point?

    Should have only one fuse, which can mean the up-down motor itself can be faulty.
    I assumed they were but I don't know that for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by myounus View Post
    Mmm. When you press the button can you hear the motor spinning? If so then it's likely to be mechanical, if not then it's a case of removal and testing the wires for power.
    Sometimes removal and refit of plugs and cleaning contacts sorts the problem out.
    There's no noise at all when you press the button.

    I will try removing and refitting the wires

    Thanks

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    After testing and cleaning connections I have come to the conclusion the motor is faulty

    Would anyone be able to help out with a part number for the motor ?

    Thanks

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