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    According to Eddie-NL, a Passat B7 cluster won't fit a Golf Mk6 anyway so the lack of an immobiliser in the Passat cluster is going to be pretty much irrelevant.

    And with no functionality in the Golf Mk6 clusters to handle side assist capabilities it looks to me like it's probably game over unfortunately.

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    Yes the outside casing is different, but according to another forum the internal PCB is same.
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    Good point. Not game over then (yet). Just a bit more work involved to swap the Passat cluster electronics into the Golf cluster casing before it could be tried out.

    It would be certainly be interesting to see if the Passat B7 cluster internals are compatible with the Golf Mk6.

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    it is not only the shape

    Immobiliser is not in cluster, so car ecu won't start as it doesn't receive ok to start

    Passat has electronic steering lock and has electric handbrake, cluster won't be happy without signal from these

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    If you can feed me more about your car i can check for you with elsawin if it possible to fit or not possible ..

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    what info do you need?

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    I currently have a 2011 mk6 GTI White
    below is the VCDS Scan I did a few months ago.

    Code:
    Monday,01,September,2014,16:36:02:34944
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20140212
    
    
    VIN: WVWGV7AJ6BW123687   License Plate: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: AJ (7N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77
    
    VIN: WVWGV7AJ6BW123687   
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels: 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 AP    HW: 1K0 907 115 AA
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030  
       Revision: AAH18---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0403010A18070160
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 74C910381733AFBE8FF-8021
    
    2 Faults Found:
    050217 - Implausible Data Received from Steering Column Control Module 
                   U0429 - 000 -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 66565 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2043.14.23
                        Time: 16:29:44
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 98.0°C
                        Temperature: 67.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 12.065 V
    
    005784 - Please Check DTC Memory of Steering Wheel Electronics 
                   P1698 - 000 -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 66565 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2043.14.23
                        Time: 16:28:41
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 97.0°C
                        Temperature: 69.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 12.065 V
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BG    HW: 1K0 907 379 BG
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0106  
       Revision: 00H31001    
       Coding: 114B600C492400FD881106EC92200041B70800
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 78D12408CB5BCBDEA37-802D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 907 336 AJ    HW: 3C8 907 336 AJ
       Component: Climatic      H14 0305  
       Revision: 00009001    
       Coding: 0000001002
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01005
       ROD: EV_ClimaBasis_SE36.rod
       VCID: 75CF2D3CD449B6B6B81-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 L    HW: 1K0 937 086 L
       Component: BCM PQ35  M   104 0615  
       Revision: 00104 AE    
       Coding: 65180A3880272AC400080081700085C442010086534D8D60648020200040
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3957E10CB0D112D69C9-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 30091  26  0512 
       Coding: 009795
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 655 B    HW: 5K0 959 655 B
       Component: AirbagVW10G   021 0706  
       Serial number: 003C4R014Z11  
       Coding: 00003031
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01012
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
       VCID: 3957E10CB8D112D69C9-806C
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 339     HW: 5K0 959 339 
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  007 0002 
       Serial number: ---0000R--0005FCK400
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ---- 
       Serial number: 3572MSME036D2058ZZZU
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ---- 
       Serial number: 3582MSME70284358ZZZV
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side: 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 3512QSME2C56711EZZZ$
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side: 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 3522QSME321C6417ZZZS
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side: 
       Component: F.Sens.Fahr  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 35527SME5F234C23ZZZM
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag; passenger side: 
       Component: F.Sens.Beif  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 35627SME4A176723ZZZH
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 AH    HW: 5K0 953 549 B
       Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0080  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: WHRPIuswHHHTf 
       Coding: 188A100000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
       ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_SE36.rod
       VCID: 76CD2A30C94FBDAEB1B-8023
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542     HW: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H05 0010 
       Serial number: 0120646             
       Coding: 820000
    
    3 Faults Found:
    0516 - Databus 
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 133
                        Mileage: 66565 km
                        Date: 2043.14.23
                        Time: 16:24:34
    
    49675 - Control Circuit for Ignition Key Lock Solenoid 
              B114A 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 133
                        Mileage: 66565 km
                        Date: 2043.14.23
                        Time: 16:24:34
    
    229211 - Cruise Control Switch 
              B1154 13 [008] - Open Circuit
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 173
                        Mileage: 66565 km
                        Date: 2043.14.23
                        Time: 16:28:39
    
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 5K6 920 971 C    HW: 5K6 920 971 C
       Component: KOMBI         H20 0420  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 270F01
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
       VCID: 354FED3C94C9F6B6781-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 7N0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530     HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway   H27 5603  
       Revision:   H27       Serial number: 091010F1002062
       Coding: E9807F0640061200000002
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: EDFF855CF419FE76C01-80B8
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 128
                        Mileage: 66449 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2043.14.21
                        Time: 00:34:52
    
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H20 0420  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod
       VCID: EAF58E400DF7E94EA53-80BF
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 C    HW: 5N0 035 342 C
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0111  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7668751036    
       Coding: 010000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 2773377456659426FAD-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 274 D    HW: 1K0 035 274 D
       Component: RNS315-NAR    H58 0319  
       Serial number: VWZAZ2M0027834
       Coding: 04010041010006000000000A
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS 001705
       ROD: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS.rod
       VCID: 256F3D7C24698636C81-8070
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 B
       Component: NAR_V6N  0051 
    
    2 Faults Found:
    1048659 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
              U1111 00 [009] - -
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 128
                        Mileage: 66449 km
                        Date: 2043.14.21
                        Time: 00:35:10
    
    1048669 - Tuner for Satelite Radio 
              B11CF 53 [009] - Deactivated
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 128
                        Mileage: 66449 km
                        Date: 2043.14.21
                        Time: 00:35:05
    
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 D    HW: 5K0 959 701 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2151  
       Coding: 0001270
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 334BD32452BDE886565-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74     3001  
       Revision: 00H17000    
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3147D92CA8A1DA96249-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 D    HW: 5K0 959 702 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2151  
       Coding: 0001270
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3449D03857B3EFBE4FF-8061
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 D    HW: 5K0 959 703 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
       Coding: 0001232
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012551
       VCID: 354FED3C5CC9F6B6781-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 D    HW: 5K0 959 704 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
       Coding: 0001232
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012551
       VCID: 364DEA3041CFFDAE71B-8063
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie-NL View Post
    it is not only the shape

    Immobiliser is not in cluster, so car ecu won't start as it doesn't receive ok to start

    Passat has electronic steering lock and has electric handbrake, cluster won't be happy without signal from these
    I did put a passat cluster in my golf today for "testing purposes". It didn't have any active codes in cluster itself, but it did show a ABS/ESP warning on dash, i guess it's because passat ABS is 3C0 and golf is 1K0.
    Yes the immobilizer, but maybe some way to enable it? I know it's a long shot, but when i did have passat cluster in my car i was able to have the lighning and convience menu, what we don't have with mk6 cluster.
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    ok, I still havent given up on this...I just stumbled upon this website: http://jimmy-cbx.blogspot.com/
    And the guy mentions that it can be installed on any car as long as the Display is in "Colour" http://jimmy-cbx.blogspot.com/2015/0...de-assist.html

    Can anyone else confirm this info?

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    I've done this a retrofit seat leon, which not has as option the side assist, i have adapted the Audi A3. My main problem is that modules LED lights do not fit into the mirror, I had to adapt on the pillars inside . my other downside is that the cluster LED alarm is not operating, I guess it's because the EEPROM is not designed for my car this option, despite having the LED indicator on the cluster but not activated. I active on and deactive from the FIS.

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