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    VW caddy injectors

    Hi All

    Usual 1.6tdi Caddy problems 5 years old 30000 miles and three injectors gone.

    First cylinder 3, replaced under warranty.
    Second cylinder 2, new injector.
    Third cylinder 1, I thought i would try a reconditioned injector.

    The first two injectors no problem yet the third has left the engine noisy.

    There were no faults on auto-scan so i assume its ok not to post.

    I ran a Injection amount deviation, and this is were you guys come in and help me understand the values.
    I am i right in thinking cylinder 1 should be a similar deviation to the other cylinders

    Code:
    	cylinder 1		cylinder 2		cylinder 3		cylinder 4
    	  mg/stroke		  mg/stroke		  mg/stroke		  mg/stroke
    	0.55	-1.5566		0.65	0.2349		0.77	0.4008		0.88	0.7722
    	1.45	-1.446		1.55	0.1155		1.65	0.5715		1.77	0.7707
    	2.3	-1.0988		2.4	0.0895		2.52	0.5609		2.62	0.7524
    	3.14	-1.4991		3.24	0.1247		3.37	0.4514		3.49	0.7242
    	4.02	-1.4918		4.14	0.0917		4.24	0.5484		4.37	0.7952
    	4.93	-1.1695		5.02	0.1166		5.14	0.6019		5.24	0.7729
    	5.8	-1.4054		5.93	0.1166		6.02	0.6088		6.14	0.574
    	6.71	-1.4716		6.8	0.1357		6.92	0.4576		7.02	0.7198
    	7.6	-1.5017		7.68	0.1199		7.8	0.5429		7.9	0.733
    	8.43	-1.1464		8.55	0.1254		8.65	0.5909		8.74	0.5744
    	9.3	-1.4823		9.42	0.1511		9.52	0.4418		9.65	0.6953
    Code:
    Thursday,21,November,2019,15:18:10:05886
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
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    VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZFX021268   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 55860km-34709mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 2K-VN35 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 77
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZFX021268   Mileage: 55860km-34709miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYD)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 023 TK    HW: 03L 907 425 C
       Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H43 9977  
       Revision: --H43---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 00254014032500080000
       Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023TK 003001
       ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997557M.rod
       VCID: 025E838A748E7EF7DF3-8056
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
       Part No SW: 0AM 300 065 M    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
       Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 6560  
       Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501406086579
       Coding: 0000020
       Shop #: WSC 49678 001 1048576
       VCID: 392C24665558FD2FCE9-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BM    HW: 1K0 907 379 BM
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0164  
       Revision: 00H46001    
       Coding: 433C400D092403FBC20D02EA9021C081A1000020
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00144
       VCID: 7EA6F77A00F61A17BBB-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 BT    HW: 7N0 907 426 BT
       Component: AC Manuell    H20 0607  
       Revision: 00001004    
       Coding: 0010004002
       Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X_VW32.rod
       VCID: 0748929E5FAC5BDF88D-8052
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 S    HW: 5K0 937 086 S
       Component: BCM PQ35 M+   122 0174  
       Revision: BD122001    
       Coding: 491A583E8025F16A088800829000016403017288524F8160648000000040
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00144
       VCID: 44D245922E9AB0C7ADF-8010
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T2 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 13051  26  0512 
       Coding: 009795
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7N0 951 171 A
       Component: DWA-Sensor 00  002 0206 
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
       Coding: 000000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Q0-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 2K0 919 475     HW: 1Q0 919 475 
       Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H03 0004  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 32901417500455
       Coding: 108101
       Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VN3370000 001006
       ROD: EV_EPHVA14VN3370000.rod
       VCID: 70BAD9424A227C67397-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
       Component: VW10Airbag02Q H07 0013  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL00RE4NN
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003251
       Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
       VCID: 3534285675C0194F2A1-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 569 AL    HW: 5K0 953 569 AL
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0180  
       Revision: --X01---    Serial number: 20190206300055
       Coding: 1892160000
       Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS A01004
       ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
       VCID: 025E838A748E7EF7DF3-8056
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542     HW: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H08 0010 
       Serial number: 0010626             
       Coding: 830000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 2K0 920 976 E    HW: 2K0 920 976 E
       Component: KOMBI         H03 0905  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 180800
       Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 3330164E7BB4077F045-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AP    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
       Component: J533  Gateway H57 1653  
       Revision:   H57       Serial number: 250614F2002453
       Coding: 357401
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00144
       VCID: 7EA6F77A00F61A17BBB-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H03 0905  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6A8ECB2A6CFE86B7773-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 T    HW: 1T0 959 701 T
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
       Coding: 0000560
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00144
       VCID: 48CA51A21EB294A7417-801C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 140    3501  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00144
       VCID: 392C24665558FD2FCE9-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 R    HW: 1T0 959 702 R
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
       Coding: 0000560
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00144
       VCID: 47C8529E13AC9BDF48D-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 AN    HW: 1K0 035 186 AN
       Component: RCD310 EU     H05 5006  
       Revision: -----09S    Serial number: VWZ4Z2P1257858
       Coding: 05000200010013
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00144
       VCID: 72BED34A44AE4E77CF3-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 M    HW: 7P6 035 730 M
       Component: TELEFON       H16 4217  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007666392933
       Coding: 0A01010000010110
       Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
       ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
       VCID: 3C223D7256EAC807D5F-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:08, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.2V)-----------

    Thanks Boothy
    Last edited by Boothy; 11-21-2019 at 10:25 AM. Reason: auto sscan

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    Please post an auto-scan..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boothy View Post
    There were no faults on auto-scan so i assume its ok not to post.
    It would still be helpful. There's a lot if info in an Auto-Scan besides just fault codes. Things like the exact ECU variant, the software version that the ECU has in it, and so on.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Are all replaced injectors adapted/coded as required?
    Do the reconditioned one is reconditioned by qualified workshop having test stand and do it has got new trim code after repair?

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    Is fuel for your region with Ethanol in the diesel fuel?

    Have you considered adding lubricants in fuel to support proper pump/injector function and an additional inline water separation trap, that can be drained periodically?


    https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice...nment/biofuels

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    In Ireland those are covered with lifetime warranty from VW provided software fix has been done.

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    Thanks for the replies.

    All of the new injectors have been coded.
    The reconditioned injector has passed there in house calibration, although their data sheet showed it failed on the Flush and NOP (nozzle opening pressure) test.
    I did query theses failures and they said it would work fine.
    I do use a redex diesel additive and use Costco UK fuel.
    In the UK we are given two year warranty post fix.

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    According Your log posted in first post injector for cylinder 1 may not be ok. To test try replacing it or swaping to another cyl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Is fuel for your region with Ethanol in the diesel fuel?
    Ethanol in diesel? I don't think so, and this isn't the first time I've questioned it.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Ethanol in diesel? I don't think so, and this isn't the first time I've questioned it.

    -Uwe-

    Yeah I been questioning it too & almost on a daily, it seems fuel suppliers are indeed putting Ethanol in bio diesel and not even telling people it's bio diesel Uwe and sometimes with no ref to it in some regions at all, did you see the links?
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