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    Fault code C10E2

    I have a fault code on a 2013 1.2Tsi Golf C10E2 54 (008) - Missing calibration/Basic Setting Intermittent.

    Basically the hsa sometimes wont release. I did replaced the engine battery and 4days later this issue started. Not sure if that has any relationship to the issue.

    Can someone explain how to calibrate the Hsa using VCDS please?

    Many thanks,
    Secondaaaa

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    Can you please post an autoscan. If you're not sure how to, see my signature.

    Thanks

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    Thanks for getting back to me so fast. I will do as you have asked in a day or two as I need to get the car to do the scan.

    Thanks again,

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    2013 Golf 1.2 TSI C10E2 Missing Calibration

    The HSA is often not releasing.

    Please can someone explain how to calibrate this?

    Many thanks,
    Secondaaaa

    Code:
    Tuesday,19,November,2019,08:25:35:28900
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZDP028678   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZDP028678   Mileage: 94583km-58771miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CJZB)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 016 E    HW: 04E 907 309 A
       Component: 1.2l R4 TSI   H08 7695  
       Revision: WAH08---    
       Coding: 01110012230411082000
       Shop #: WSC 47161 001 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016E 001011
       ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016H.rod
       VCID: 2447A4902FAB1B6FE3-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AC    HW: 5Q0 907 379 D
       Component: ESC           H75 0437  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 01FA8AA120222A74037D060701CB2580510454C06080A4F300280028C0
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 008020
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_008_VW37.rod
       VCID: 7DF1B1F4EC818AA7CC-8028
    
    1 Fault Found:
    32951 - Control Module for Electronic Parking Brake 
              C10E2 54 [008] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 96
                        Mileage: 94223 km
                        Date: 2019.11.07
                        Time: 12:51:06
    
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:. 5G0-907-426.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 426 J    HW: 5G0 907 426 J
       Component: AC Manuell    H01 0503  
       Revision: 00001K06    
       Coding: 00120004200100001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 002017
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_002_VW37.rod
       VCID: 326B52C8655F85DF61-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-BV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 M    HW: 5Q0 937 084 M
       Component: BCM MQBAB B   H14 0106  
       Serial number: 00011232500772
       Coding: 03000842C20100530FA44000000403081000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 010001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_010.rod
       VCID: 428B0208D5FF355FF1-8016
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G2 955 119 A    HW: 5G2 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    121113  042 0551 
       Serial number:         121114152013
       Coding: 0E4DD5
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 C    HW: 5Q0 959 655 C
       Component: AirbagVW20    011 0361  
       Serial number: 003F5R01FL01
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF00C800000065
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00059
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002126
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X.rod
       VCID: 408F0800DBF3274FE7-8014
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 111 12
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35767000000416583C0O
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 111 12
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35867000000154C84C0W
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 112 12
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502AD0D46473518A
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 112 12
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502AD0CD5EC5635Z
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 412 12
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502AF0D5D621914J
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AB    HW: 5Q0 953 549 
       Component: Lenks. Modul  007 0070  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 05121208490046
       Coding: 0600
       Shop #: WSC 40195 333 37120
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_009_VW37.rod
       VCID: 76E3AED8C9B7D9FF8D-8022
    
    No ASAM data for: "EV_SMLSKLOMQB" (VW37) 
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
       Part No SW: 5G0 920 950     HW: 5G0 920 950 
       Component: KOMBI         136 0555  
       Coding: 27A402002380260001082800040000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008026
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_008_VW37.rod
       VCID: 65C1F9946411226734-8030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 D    HW: 5Q0 907 530 D
       Component: GW MQB Low    120 1109  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000166131
       Coding: 030000042B086400EF000048080E00010001000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 006010
       ROD: EV_GatewLear_006.rod
       VCID: 326B52C8655F85DF61-8066
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 C    HW: 5Q0 915 181 C
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8042 
       Serial number: 4221688601          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 393     HW: 5Q4 959 393 
       Component: TSG FS        007 0006  
       Serial number: 0000045007537 
       Coding: 003002208001020100001000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 55A1C9543471B2E7A4-8000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 L    HW: 5Q0 909 144 L
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  119 1021  
       Coding: 01
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_008.rod
       VCID: 3D7171F4AC014AA78C-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 392     HW: 5Q4 959 392 
       Component: TSG BFS       007 0006  
       Serial number: 0000046062703 
       Coding: 003000208001020100801000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 7F0D4BFCE68D98B7DE-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 035 820     HW: 5G0 035 820 
       Component: MU-S-D-ER     038 0130  
       Serial number: V5C01012120690
       Coding: 02730000FF0000002111120100A800001F0100060100010001
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002036
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
       VCID: 5EB3D678414771BFF5-800A
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605     HW: 5G0 919 605 
       Component: ABT_Std_Radio  H44 0020 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9M24012AF      
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:22)--------------------------

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    Code:
    Tuesday,19,November,2019,08:25:35:28900
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZDP028678   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZDP028678   Mileage: 94583km-58771miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CJZB)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 016 E    HW: 04E 907 309 A
       Component: 1.2l R4 TSI   H08 7695  
       Revision: WAH08---    
       Coding: 01110012230411082000
       Shop #: WSC 47161 001 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016E 001011
       ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016H.rod
       VCID: 2447A4902FAB1B6FE3-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AC    HW: 5Q0 907 379 D
       Component: ESC           H75 0437  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 01FA8AA120222A74037D060701CB2580510454C06080A4F300280028C0
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 008020
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_008_VW37.rod
       VCID: 7DF1B1F4EC818AA7CC-8028
    
    1 Fault Found:
    32951 - Control Module for Electronic Parking Brake 
              C10E2 54 [008] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 96
                        Mileage: 94223 km
                        Date: 2019.11.07
                        Time: 12:51:06
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:. 5G0-907-426.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 426 J    HW: 5G0 907 426 J
       Component: AC Manuell    H01 0503  
       Revision: 00001K06    
       Coding: 00120004200100001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 002017
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_002_VW37.rod
       VCID: 326B52C8655F85DF61-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-BV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 M    HW: 5Q0 937 084 M
       Component: BCM MQBAB B   H14 0106  
       Serial number: 00011232500772
       Coding: 03000842C20100530FA44000000403081000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 010001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_010.rod
       VCID: 428B0208D5FF355FF1-8016
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G2 955 119 A    HW: 5G2 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    121113  042 0551 
       Serial number:         121114152013
       Coding: 0E4DD5
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 C    HW: 5Q0 959 655 C
       Component: AirbagVW20    011 0361  
       Serial number: 003F5R01FL01
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF00C800000065
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00059
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002126
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X.rod
       VCID: 408F0800DBF3274FE7-8014
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 111 12
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35767000000416583C0O
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 111 12
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35867000000154C84C0W
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 112 12
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502AD0D46473518A
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 112 12
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502AD0CD5EC5635Z
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 412 12
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502AF0D5D621914J
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AB    HW: 5Q0 953 549 
       Component: Lenks. Modul  007 0070  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 05121208490046
       Coding: 0600
       Shop #: WSC 40195 333 37120
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_009_VW37.rod
       VCID: 76E3AED8C9B7D9FF8D-8022
    
    No ASAM data for: "EV_SMLSKLOMQB" (VW37) 
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
       Part No SW: 5G0 920 950     HW: 5G0 920 950 
       Component: KOMBI         136 0555  
       Coding: 27A402002380260001082800040000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008026
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_008_VW37.rod
       VCID: 65C1F9946411226734-8030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 D    HW: 5Q0 907 530 D
       Component: GW MQB Low    120 1109  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000166131
       Coding: 030000042B086400EF000048080E00010001000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 006010
       ROD: EV_GatewLear_006.rod
       VCID: 326B52C8655F85DF61-8066
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 C    HW: 5Q0 915 181 C
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8042 
       Serial number: 4221688601          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 393     HW: 5Q4 959 393 
       Component: TSG FS        007 0006  
       Serial number: 0000045007537 
       Coding: 003002208001020100001000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 55A1C9543471B2E7A4-8000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 L    HW: 5Q0 909 144 L
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  119 1021  
       Coding: 01
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_008.rod
       VCID: 3D7171F4AC014AA78C-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 392     HW: 5Q4 959 392 
       Component: TSG BFS       007 0006  
       Serial number: 0000046062703 
       Coding: 003000208001020100801000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 7F0D4BFCE68D98B7DE-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 035 820     HW: 5G0 035 820 
       Component: MU-S-D-ER     038 0130  
       Serial number: V5C01012120690
       Coding: 02730000FF0000002111120100A800001F0100060100010001
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00308
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002036
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
       VCID: 5EB3D678414771BFF5-800A
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605     HW: 5G0 919 605 
       Component: ABT_Std_Radio  H44 0020 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9M24012AF      
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:22)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 11-19-2019 at 03:21 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    This procedure might help: https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...l=1#post104517

    At least worth trying.

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    Thanks but I have already tried this & it did not work.

    Thanks
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    Threads merged. We do not need or want two threads with the same question about the same car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondaaaa View Post
    I have a fault code on a 2013 1.2Tsi Golf C10E2 54 (008) - Missing calibration/Basic Setting Intermittent.

    Basically the hsa sometimes wont release. I did replaced the engine battery and 4days later this issue started. Not sure if that has any relationship to the issue.

    Can someone explain how to calibrate the Hsa using VCDS please?

    Many thanks,
    Secondaaaa
    Secondaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa................. !!! Hi.

    I'm not sure how to address your problem (other than myounus suggestion) - but in respect of your suspicion regarding the battery replacement, my belief is that this is not the case because of the supporting records in your DTC.

    The time date stamp on the DTC is Date: 2019.11.07 Time: 12:51:06. . This means that the fault was first recorded 12 days before the date of your auto-scan (i.e. 8 days before the battery replacement). The further record Fault Frequency: 2 also indicates that since first appearing, the fault has only re-occurred once more.

    So, without intending any offense, or implication - what was the car doing @ around mid-day-ish on 7th November? Perhaps have a look @ the AdpLog.CSV & CodingLog.CSV files in the c:\Ross-Tech\VCDS\Debug sub-directory on your laptop for records around this time- maybe?

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    Secondaaaa

    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Threads merged. We do not need or want two threads with the same question about the same car.

    -Uwe-
    I do apologize Uwe. I am new to these forums & am finding how to use it a bit difficult and would ask to be forgiven for my mistakes.

    Many thanks,
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