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    Lost cruise control after new key was coded P1647

    Hello.

    This is my first post. I'm from Denmark and work as an independant technician and problemsolver for auto workshops. I have worked with VCDS for 13 years. But now I have a problem I can't solve myself.

    The car is a 2013 Golf 7 which after dealer coded new key lost function of the cruise control. Not long ago, a thread with exactly the same problem was created in this forum, but there are no solution yet as I see it.

    I have genuine ODIS, and have tried to recode all the modules to their original coding with SWM. That mysteriously did not solve the problem. I have in collaboration with Niels, tried to experiment a bit with the coding in 01 and 19 but with no luck. The only thing that is not working by now is the cruise control. The customer insists that the problem was not there before the new key was coded. The dealer denies that it have anything to do with the new key they have added, but have offered to start a diagnostics session if he agrees to pay all the cost and the labour, which he of course knows will be expensive. So his regular workshop called me when they could not solve the problem themselves.

    The codes I have tried:

    01: 01190012232415082000
    19: 030000042B086400EF000248080E0001000100000000000000 0000000000

    No luck.

    If I code 01 to have NO cruise control, the faultcode can be deleted.

    The cruise control are NOT retrofitted.

    There exsits no autoscan from before the key was coded.

    Any suggestions?

    All inputs will be appreciated!

    Thanks, Jimmy


    Code:
    Wednesday,06,November,2019,09:21:34:29794
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Dealer/Shop Name: Diagnose Specialisten ApS
    Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZEW060422   License Plate: AJ27576
    Mileage: 84885km-52745mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZEW060422   Mileage: 84885km-52745miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CJZA)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 016 H    HW: 04E 907 309 A
       Component: R4 1.2l TFS   H08 9020  
       Revision: WAH08---    
       Coding: 01190012242415082000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016H 001009
       ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016H.rod
       VCID: 270BFB58AF6A521FA8D-8072
    
    1 Fault Found:
    17149 - Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus 
              P1647 00 [038] - -
              [Checking coding/versions ofcontrol modules in drivetrain]
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Mileage: 84885 km
                        Date: 2019.11.06
                        Time: 01:07:43
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 55 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 19 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.015 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Mass flow through throttle valve: 0.0 kg/h
                        Median injection timing: 0.000 ms
                        Engine operating condition: Idling
                        Engine operating condition-Test_Program_Channel 87: 5
    
    Readiness: 1110 0001
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 CK    HW: 5Q0 907 379 G
       Component: ESC           H31 0472  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 61763000000634
       Coding: 01FA6AA12426296C037B060241C52580562494C06082A4F300200068C002
       Shop #: WSC 50664 003 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_033_VW37.rod
       VCID: 074B9BD84FAA721F88D-8052
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 044 AA    HW: 5G0 907 044 AA
       Component: Climatronic   H02 0705  
       Revision: 00001K06    
       Coding: 00020004200100011005000000101000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 003018
       ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_003_VW37.rod
       VCID: 6695B65C68E08B1753B-8032
    
       Fresh Air Blower Front: 
    
       Geber für Kältemitteldruck/Kältemitteltemperatur: 
    
       Air quality sensor: 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AA    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AA
       Component: BCM MQBAB H   H14 0112  
       Serial number: 00011318701694
       Coding: 00040846C24100D34BE44000001C07081000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 50664 003 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 011001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_011.rod
       VCID: 77ABEB183F4A029FF8D-8022
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A    HW: 5G1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    130630  042 0551 
       Serial number:         130702062205
       Coding: 0E4DDD
    
       Relative Air Humidity Interior Sender: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559     HW: 8U0 955 559   Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
       Component: G355_FeuchteS  H07 0002 
       Serial number: 20425444            
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 M    HW: 5Q0 959 655 M
       Component: AirbagVW20    011 0361  
       Serial number: 003M1R03YGK/
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF004800000065
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002126
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X.rod
       VCID: 4ACD62EC1C384F77573-801E
    
       Belt Pretensioner left: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFL  H35 0340 
       Serial number: 34169667B08071370922
       Coding: 333135
    
       Belt Pretensioner right: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFR  H35 0340 
       Serial number: 34169668B08071350686
       Coding: 333135
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 806 13
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35767000000C337DFC07
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 806 13
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 358670000002E65DFC0A
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 106 13
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502C910CBDD6016K
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 906 13
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502C110CBDD370FP
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 706 13
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502A1106FA20F1FG
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AM    HW: 5Q0 953 549 A
       Component: Lenks. Modul  007 0070  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 02071304220024
       Coding: 1604
       Shop #: WSC 50664 003 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_009_VW37.rod
       VCID: 015F85C0618E4C2FC69-8054
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
       Part No SW: 5G0 920 851     HW: 5G0 920 851 
       Component: KOMBI         104 3380  
       Coding: 07A402002300000800080800040000
       Shop #: WSC 50664 003 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB 008011
       ROD: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB_008.rod
       VCID: 6597B15095E6800F5A1-8030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 K    HW: 5Q0 907 530 D
       Component: GW MQB Low    123 1144  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000749523
       Coding: 030000342B086400EF00024C080E00010001000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 009013
       ROD: EV_GatewLear_009.rod
       VCID: 392F2D2049DED4EFCE9-806C
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 C    HW: 5Q0 915 181 C
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8042 
       Serial number: 2489810803          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 393 A    HW: 5Q0 959 393 
       Component: TSG FS        012 0006  
       Serial number: 22061301100273
       Coding: 003003208000048000001000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 3D2739305DF6E8CFE21-8068
    
       Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 A    HW: 5Q4 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000001956288
       Coding: 010000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 L    HW: 5Q0 909 144 L
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  119 1021  
       Coding: 01
       Shop #: WSC 50664 003 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_008.rod
       VCID: 3D2739305DF6E8CFE21-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 392 A    HW: 5Q0 959 392 
       Component: TSG BFS       012 0006  
       Serial number: 23061302091512
       Coding: 003001208000048000801000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMINKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 3C21343446ECE1C7D5F-8068
    
       Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 A    HW: 5Q4 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000001865671
       Coding: 090000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT1.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 035 867     HW: 5G0 035 867 
       Component: MU-E--ER      636 5675  
       Serial number: 04061300010047
       Coding: 02730000FF0000004011000100000000000000040000010000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CLGE 001025
       ROD: EV_MUEnt4CLGE_VW37.rod
       VCID: 698FBD6079FEA46F7E9-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:57, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/13.2V)-----------

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    You have to go to dealer to restore FEC codes in Car, actually VAG is a little bit stupid because some Blackbox are sold in china. A few months ago FEC restored automatically if you do guided functions. But actually you have to restore them manually after do this jobs.

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    Because matching keys also creates new CP for Cluster and BCM. This is why this happens.

    https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...d-modules-lost

    EDIT: I saw You had genuine ODIS.

    For everything to work to spec I'd suggest doing following:
    1) CP Basic setting. It will rewrite all CP-s. This is just in case to get fresh start.
    2) Do Software Configuration. This option can be found in Special Options tab. Manually select module 19(Gateway). This will restore dataset. Seen issues with this after such jobs.
    3) Restore FEC. This option is also in Specia Options tab. Restore them in 19 and 5F.
    Last edited by golfi_vend; 11-07-2019 at 02:10 PM.
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