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    Why do people do this?

    Let's imagine a bloke. This bloke is from the UK and let's call him a typical British name, for the sake of his privacy.
    Since Will is his actual name, we'll use that.

    Will owns a VW Polo and is familiar with VCDS. So far I like Will a lot, but things will take a drastic turn for the worse.
    Somehow Will found my email address and linked this mail address to a deep love for the PQ25 platform. So far Will is right.

    Let's see what Will wrote:
    Will ***
    17 Oct 2019, 18:25
    to me

    Hi Michel!

    My name is will and i am in the UK, I have a 2010 6r polo 1.6tdi I am trying to re code the ABS after it lost its coding, been through all the old auto scans and it isnt there!

    hope the auto scan i have posted below might be able to help you help me with an ABS code.

    I will happily pay you some fine british pounds if it works!

    I have attached my auto scan. car is a UK model. smallest disc and drum brake option
    1.6tdi 75hp

    I am losing my mind trying to sort it snd would reapply appreciate any help!

    Thanks
    here is the autoscan, suspect a clone:

    Code:
    Tuesday,08,October,2019,21:03:06:40315
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4441.4
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Dealer/Shop Name: [redacted]
    
    VIN: [redacted]   License Plate: [redacted]
    Mileage: 194130km-120626mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 44 56
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU015607   Mileage: 194130km-120626miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYB)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 023 BC    HW: 03L 906 023 D
       Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H13 8876  
       Revision: --H13---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 00114014000500080000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023BC 003007
       ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023AH_003.rod
       VCID: 688944E422FA0CF736D-803C
    
    2 Faults Found:
    7332 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
              P0103 00 [165] - Signal too High
              MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 193905 km
                        Date: 2019.10.07
                        Time: 23:51:41
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 12 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 14 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.633 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Engine speed: 0 /min
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Battery voltage: 11.6 V
                        EGR Vacuum Regulator Solen.val.: activation-ANG_SP_EGRV[0]: 0.000 %
                        Throttle_actuator_commanded_value-ANG_SP_THR[0]: 3.999 %
                        Air mass: specified value-MAF_SP_MMV: 239.95 mg/stroke
                        Air mass: actual value (mg/stroke)-MAF_MES: 0 mg/stroke
    
    14359 - Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor 4 Bank 1 
              P2470 00 [165] - Short to Ground
              MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Mileage: 193905 km
                        Date: 2019.10.07
                        Time: 00:40:48
    
                        Engine speed: 983.25 /min
                        Normed load value: 22.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 53 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 23 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 13.892 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Exh.gas temp.sen 3-TEG_MES[1]: 11.41 °C
                        Sensor for engine block temperature: raw value-Coolant temperature: 12 °C
                        Exh.gas temp.sen 1-TEG_MES[0]: 19.98 °C
                        Exh.gas temp.sen 3-TEG_MES[1]: 11.41 °C
                        Exh.gas temp.sen 4-TEG_MES[2]: -175.02 °C
    
    Readiness: 1110 1000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 R    HW: 6R0 907 379 R
       Component: ESP8.2i front H04 0002  
       Revision: --------    
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
       VCID: 4DC79570AD98C9DF25B-8018
    
    4 Faults Found:
    01042 - Control Module; Not Coded 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 53
                        Mileage: 194137 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.27
                        Time: 23:34:53
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0007
                        Hex Value: 0x0002
                        Hex Value: 0x1213
                        Hex Value: 0x1497
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
                        Hex Value: 0x7F7F
                        Hex Value: 0x7F00
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
    
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100101
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 53
                        Mileage: 194137 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.27
                        Time: 23:34:53
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0007
                        Hex Value: 0x0002
                        Hex Value: 0x1251
                        Hex Value: 0x1B97
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
                        Hex Value: 0x7F7F
                        Hex Value: 0x7F00
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
    
    00493 - ESP-Sensor Unit (G419) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100101
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 53
                        Mileage: 194137 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.27
                        Time: 23:34:53
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0007
                        Hex Value: 0x0002
                        Hex Value: 0x12E1
                        Hex Value: 0x1A97
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
                        Hex Value: 0x7F7F
                        Hex Value: 0x7F00
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
    
    03306 - Coding Not Valid 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 93
                        Mileage: 194137 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.27
                        Time: 23:37:11
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0003
                        Hex Value: 0x0002
                        Hex Value: 0x12E7
                        Hex Value: 0x2597
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
                        Hex Value: 0x7F80
                        Hex Value: 0x7E00
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J3˙˙˙)       Labels: 6R0-820-045-9AP.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 E    HW: 6R0 820 045 E
       Component: Climatic       24 0600  
       Revision: 00 10 24    
       VCID: 3039EC84DA2A84372ED-8064
    
    1 Fault Found:
    16372 - Control Module; Unspecified Internal Error 
                014 - Defective
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101110
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 4069 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2010.11.04
                        Time: 16:33:40
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 B    HW: 6R0 937 087 B
       Component: PQ25 BCM      H09 0029  
       Revision: BF009001    Serial number: 9955A267090629
       Coding: 25B02BBF08E12400923000003D2B0CD00000410F600400002000
       Shop #: WSC 00389 210 88335
       VCID: 3C21C8B406627057825-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 H    HW: 6R0 959 802 H  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  005 0803 
       Serial number: KU0-KU025.09.0915949
       Coding: 08BC30
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 K    HW: 6R0 959 801 K  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  005 0803 
       Serial number: KU0-KU028.09.0910648
       Coding: 08BC30
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  008 1611 
       Serial number: KU0KU030061100015273
       Coding: 08BC32
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 B    HW: 6R0 959 812 B
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  005 0803 
       Serial number: KU0-KU015.09.0910328
       Coding: 08BC32
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00920 - Heated Outside Mirrors; Driver Side (Z4) / Passenger Side (Z5) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 93
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 93
                        Mileage: 194136 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.25
                        Time: 23:24:59
    
    02660 - Radio Remote Control not Matched/Adapted 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 7
                        Reset counter: 53
                        Mileage: 194137 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.27
                        Time: 00:01:46
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 C    HW: 6R0 959 655 C
       Component: VW10Airbag00B H09 0018  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003DW007DHSR
       Coding: 003042
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
       VCID: 42DDB64C640606A7C89-8016
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3572SRB400009BCC81BM
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3582SRB400009BE52A6G
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3516GRB402V9BR0F14IJ
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3526GRB4021DJ2ND8JBD
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 6R0 920 961 B    HW: 6R0 920 961 B
       Component: KOMBI         H23 0110  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 440A00
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
       VCID: 3537DD9025C8A11F7DB-8060
    
    2 Faults Found:
    12664832 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
              U1111 00 [008] - -
              [Steuergerät für BCM / Bordnetz / el. ZE: keine Kommunikation]
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 93
    
    12669184 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
              U1111 00 [008] - -
              [Steuergerät für Airbag: keine Kommunikation]
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 93
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 B
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0029  
       Coding: 002300
       Shop #: WSC 00389 210 88335
       VCID: 70B92C841AAAC4376ED-8024
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02078 - Media Player Position 3 (R120) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 53
                        Mileage: 194137 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.27
                        Time: 00:00:04
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 920 961 B    HW: 6R0 920 961 B
       Component: IMMO          H23 0110  
       Serial number:               
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 3537DD9025C8A11F7DB-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
       Part No: 6R0 423 156 A
       Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V275  
       Coding: 10130
       Shop #: WSC 31414  
       VCID: 2E05F2FCC95E92C73C1-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 5M0 035 186 AA    HW: 5M0 035 186 AA
       Component: Radio RCD310  013 0049  
       Revision: 01000000    Serial number: VWZ1Z2I6829004
       Coding: 0500040002
       Shop #: WSC 77011 210 104168
       VCID: 6B833BE8338C27EF5BF-803E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03272 - Control Module for Audio Interface 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 53
                        Mileage: 194137 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.27
                        Time: 00:00:59
    
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 01:31, VBatt start/end: 11.6V/11.6V. VIgn 11.5V)-----
    Full of intermittent codes but the ABS is my main issue. The fine promise of some queens currency makes my heart accelerate instantly so why not.
    Reverse engineering ABS codes is something I really love to do anyway, the MK60EC1 and Bosch ESP units are good fun and RHD is one up one the difficulty scale.
    Within a few seconds my mind decided to ask for more information. This is easy, ESP8.2.

    Michel ***
    17 Oct 2019, 18:38
    to Will

    Do you have any idea why you lost the coding?
    Did you replace the instrument cluster?
    Will ***
    Thu, 17 Oct, 18:47
    to me

    had to replace the ABS module as the pins had corroded off the front of it.
    car has had a new ECU, body control module, cluster and keys before but that was a while ago

    thanks
    Well, it looks like Will is a man that probably has the miracle of email on his phone so expect quick responses.

    Michel ***
    Thu, 17 Oct, 18:50
    to Will

    I see, so the ABS has worked with this ECU/cluster, correct?

    Give this coding a try please:
    230224e3436E00B7C42B24E2C2D800521700
    Michel ***
    Thu, 17 Oct, 18:53
    to Will

    PS, you put an ECU of a 90hp polo in it (CAYB engine code) so you’re running 90bhp right now ;-)

    if your coding is rejected, try this coding as well please:
    230228e3416E00B7C42B14E282D800521700
    Will ***
    Fri, 18 Oct, 00:22
    to me

    That’s great thanks for that! I’m pretty good with numbers but struggled working out all the binary inversion for the vin haha!

    I’ll give it a try tomorrow. Yes I did know about the ECU!

    Thanks again

    William ***
    T:079313153**
    My dear lord, he starts to like me so much he's actually using his full name and I now have his phone number as well!
    Given the urgence, I'm wondering why I haven't heard back from Will. Do you also think to guess where this is going?
    Nope, the tread continues...

    Michel ***
    Sun, 20 Oct, 21:33 (13 days ago)
    to Will

    Update please
    Will ***
    Mon, 21 Oct, 10:20 (12 days ago)
    to me

    Hi buddy,

    Only got round to trying these this morning and neither worked unfortunately! Still giving the errors 22. Appreciate your help so far though. Is there anything I need to do prior to the coding? Am doing the security login first.
    I do also have vagtacho. Do I need to make sure the key codes are correct

    Thanks again
    Michel ***
    Mon, 21 Oct, 10:21 (12 days ago)
    to Will

    Yes, please check the advanced ID of both the immobiliser and the engine to see if the VIN matches.
    I don't suspect a classic VIN mismatch between ECU and ABS since I'm under the impression that this car actually started.
    Futhermore I'm amused they changed the BCM and immo reader coil as well, why would you do that?

    Will ***
    21 Oct 2019, 10:47 (12 days ago)
    to me

    Ok, does the ABS module have the vin attached to it too? Because that wasn’t changed when the clocks, ecu, bcm and transponder ring etc was changed.
    If so can I correct this in vcds or vag tacho?

    Thanks

    William ***
    T:079313153**
    Michel ***
    Mon, 21 Oct, 11:01 (12 days ago)
    to Will

    you don’t need to change the VIN in the ABS, just read module 01 and 17
    I'm going for the jackpot now since I just did another, almost identical, RHD Polo 6R. That went very well, so these must be the right codes.
    I even gave him a free XDS diff and TPMS!

    Michel Bekker ***
    Mon, 21 Oct, 11:27 (12 days ago)
    to Will

    Try this as well:
    230228E3416E00B7C42B14E282D800821300
    230228E3416E00B7C42B14E282D800821700
    Yee ha, I'm so excited!

    Michel ***
    Wed, 23 Oct, 16:07 (10 days ago)
    to Will

    Any news?
    Still excited!

    Michel ***
    Thu, 24 Oct, 19:07 (9 days ago)
    to Will

    Any news?
    Will ***
    25 Oct 2019, 00:16 (9 days ago)
    to me

    Giving it a try tomorrow. Nightsift = booo

    William ***
    T:079313153**
    Back when I was still a doctor, I hated night shifts as well so I can relate...
    However, come tomorrow:

    Michel ***
    Mon, 28 Oct, 14:00 (5 days ago)
    to Will

    And?
    Trying the Dutch straight approach:

    Michel ***
    Tue, 29 Oct, 22:48 (4 days ago)
    to Will

    Any news? I did a lot of work to help you out and I’m not hearing anything back. That isn’t very nice.
    Well, for me it's clear now...

    Michel ****
    Thu, 31 Oct, 22:19 (2 days ago)
    to Will Hook <[redacted]>

    I think it’s a bit of a shame that you’re ignoring me now.
    I get it why you'd ask hobbyist people for help. I get it you don't want to pay top dollar for a dealer to do an SVM.
    What I don't get is you're mailing me to help you out, I take some effort to do so and then as soon as it's done, you're ingoring me and take away my reward.
    I'm 100 % sure the coding I gave him worked out. I'm guessing he simply doesn't want to pay me... such a shame.
    This is exactly the reason I'll stop doing these e-mail requests and only post publicly on forums. I'm a bit cross with Will and people like him.
    Last edited by Uwe; 11-02-2019 at 04:21 PM. Reason: Redactions in the auto-scan

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