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    New to forum a3 8p electrical problems

    New to forum but had Vcds for a while on my of my vw. I have a 2003 a3 8p 2.0 tdi keeps going through steering racks. I brought it and had 3 recon fitted I had it 3 weeks and lost power steering. Read codes on a snapon solus as laptop is at home and I get 00537 steering torque sensor (g269) Ross tech wiki says check terminal 15. Is that going to be on the loom or rack wiring. Any help in right direction. I also cannot sync any key fobs with car even with vcds. Tried all the ways on the site but no joy. On scan on snap on not vcds as at home I get these faults. 00059 terminal 30 interior light electrical problem
    01049 supply voltage terminal 50 short with power
    00906 horn h1 open circuit/short with ground
    00834 signal for activation heater rear window open circuit/short
    00926 terminal 30 not a plausable signal intermittent

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    We need you to post a full unedited VCDS Auto-Scan of you 8P A3 to be able to suggest help.

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    Will do a complete scan tonight with vcds. The not able to program a key fob for central locking is bugging the hell out of me

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    Code:
    Sunday,03,November,2019,20:08:27:57077
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8P84A056462   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 235930km-146600mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 7D
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8P84A056462   Mileage: 235930km-146600miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
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    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.clb
       Part No SW: 03G 906 016 G    HW: 028 101 136 4
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC 0000SG  5334  
       Revision: 12345678    Serial number: AUX7Z0C6FNT0DV
       Coding: 0000072
       Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
       VCID: 27560A959633E177C6-8072
    
    2 Faults Found:
    16619 - Boost Pressure 
                P0235 - 000 - Regulation Range not Reached
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 2142 /min
                        Torque: 204.0 Nm
                        Speed: 111.0 km/h
                        Load: 46.3 %
                        Voltage: 14.52 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Absolute Pres.: 1846.2 mbar
                        Absolute Pres.: 1377.0 mbar
    
    17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer 
                P1570 - 000 -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Torque: 120.0 Nm
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 11.93 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 11100000
                        (no units): 0.0
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 1 1 
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 907 379 D
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
       Coding: 0055942
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: 336EEEC552EB9DD76A-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 H    HW: 8P0 820 043 H
       Component: KlimavollautomatH14 0180  
       Revision: 138254      Serial number: 8P0820043H    
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: 3162E4CDA8F7AFC718-8064
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101010
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 207
                        Reset counter: 160
                        Mileage: 223600 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.11.11
                        Time: 03:54:00
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Temperature: 18.5°C
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 A    HW: 8P0 907 279 A*
       Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H27 0401  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000119363
       Coding: 01884F00A2141000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3B7EC6E57ABB5597B2-806E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 C  Labels: 1TX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer WWS Audi350 0180  
       Coding: 16711696
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
    00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8P0-959-655-84.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 F    HW: 8P0 959 655 F
       Component: Airbag 8.4ED    H01 0130  
       Coding: 0011602
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: 458AA01D0C7F1367D4-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 A    HW: 1K0 953 549 A
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul 009 0030  
       Coding: 0000012
       Shop #: WSC 06435 551 00000
       VCID: 3064E1C9A3FDA6CF17-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 920 980 H    HW: 8P0 920 980 H
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0080  
       Revision: D05         Serial number: 2246CD05000107
       Coding: 0004403
       Shop #: WSC 00783 067 57207
       VCID: 3C7CC5F97FB552AFBB-8068
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00003 - Control Module 
                014 - Defective
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000011
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 150981 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.01.21
                        Time: 14:58:48
    
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 B    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: Gateway         H08 0090  
       Revision: 08          Serial number: 2400103721A350
       Coding: 3D0F0B42070101
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: 264807919139F87FFD-8072
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 68
                        Reset counter: 160
                        Mileage: 235903 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.11.01
                        Time: 09:06:31
    
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 8P0 920 980 H    HW: 8P0 920 980 H
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0080  
       Revision: D05         Serial number: AUX7Z0C6FNT0DV
       Shop #: WSC 00762 210 91493
       VCID: 3C7CC5F97FB552AFBB-8068
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01176 - Key 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN1.lbl
       Part No: 8P0 959 801 A
       Component: Tuersteuerger.  H10 0010  
       Coding: 0000048
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: 3972DCED70876787A0-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-143-GEN1.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 143 L
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.7       0402  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 336EEEC552EB9DD76A-8066
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00750 - Warning Lamp 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Mileage: 5920 km
                        Temperature: 12.0°C
                        Voltage: 12.10 V
                        Voltage: 12.00 V
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
       Part No: 8P0 959 433 
       Component:    KSG          H02 0040  
       Coding: 188800186D288505485AC63000
       Shop #: WSC 00186 785 00200
       VCID: 79F21CED3007A787E0-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder No Answer     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 
       Component: Neigungssensor  003 0003
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8P0 951 177 
       Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0010
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
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    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P3 035 382     HW: 8P3 035 382 
       Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH23 0100  
       Revision: 00001       Serial number: 10000001041884
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 70E421C9637DE6CF57-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 8P0-959-802-MIN1.lbl
       Part No: 8P0 959 802 A
       Component: Tuersteuerger.  H10 0010  
       Coding: 0000048
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: 3A70C3E175816C9FA9-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 56: Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
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    Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 C    HW: 1K0 963 235 C
       Component: PTC-Element         0404  
       Revision: 00600000    Serial number:               
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2B5EF6A58ADBC51722-807E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35) 
                014 - Defective
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:01)--------------------------
    Code:
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    Address 46,8P0 959 433 ,channel 0,adapted from,---,to,000,
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    Address 46,8P0 959 433 ,channel 1,adapted from,1,to,1,
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    Address 46,8P0 959 433 ,channel 0,adapted from,---,to,000,
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    Address 46,8P0 959 433 ,channel 1,adapted from,1,to,2,
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    Address 46,8P0 959 433 ,channel 0,adapted from,---,to,000,
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    Address 46,8P0 959 433 ,channel 1,adapted from,1,to,2,
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    the headlight intermittent is as i have led headlights. i have managed to get the new key to program in vcds now so old must be either faulty or wrong type as it only had one key when i got it. the key that came with it wouldnt program. can anyone here provide skc before i fork out for a reader

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    The key thing confuses me... It's Immo 4C - the SKC is of no use to you. You shouldn't be able to match a new key with VCDS (Right? Or is my brain broken / I am too tired?)

    If the power and wiring to the rack is OK, and the ignition switch isn't causing terminal 15 issues, and all the earths and connections are clean, fuses checked for cracks etc...


    The fastest way to root a torque sensor is to bash stuff and smack tie rods etc with hammers instead of using the proper tools. Usually it shows up right after the heavy hand though. Was work front suspension work done around the time these errors occurred, and was it the same error code each time?

    It seems a lot of Garages still find it acceptable - even on aluminium suspension components, where it is a massive NO-NO too!

    The torque sensor is basically the slight "springyness" you can feel in the steering; with the steering unlocked, but engine off. Smacking stuff distorts it and screws it's readings up. It's basically the same theory as a weight/scales load cell, where it distorts under normal load and provides a different reading based on the load. Smacking stuff bends it forever
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    Damnnnnn that was my assumption get skc and program key with vcds. Any idea what I can use to do myself. The rack is random won’t do it for ages then randomly goes. Reset it and works fine again for month or so. When it happened I just pulled off drive and red steering light

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZDubNurd View Post
    The key thing confuses me... It's Immo 4C - the SKC is of no use to you.
    "AUX7Z0C6FNT0DV" as the serial number in the Immobilizer does imply that, but I'm surprised to see that in such an early car.

    It couldn't hurt to post the Advanced ID data from the Immo and cluster though.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    "AUX7Z0C6FNT0DV" as the serial number in the Immobilizer does imply that, but I'm surprised to see that in such an early car.
    I'm pretty sure ALL 8P A3's were 4C - If not, they certainly started in the 2004 model year, for Europe at least. My original A3 3.2 donor for the R32ran was also 2004 with 4C.

    So many reason to keep driving old cars
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZDubNurd View Post
    I'm pretty sure ALL 8P A3's were 4C - If not, they certainly started in the 2004 model year, for Europe at least. My original A3 3.2 donor for the R32ran was also 2004 with 4C.
    Yeah, I checked scans from some MY 2006 8Ps (the earliest ones on the US). My son still drives my old one, and I think Peter's wife has one as well. They all have AUX serial numbers in the Immo.

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