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    Immobilizer adaptation VW Caddy 2006, PIN is known

    Hi Everyone.

    So while I wait for my verified status to come through I can ask here if anyone has experienced the same and can give me some pointers.

    I have a 2006 model VW Caddy which basically is a mk5 golf with a big butt.
    I bought my car second hand and it only came with one key with a remote control and one valet key.
    I have since used my key insurance and have received a new keyfob from VW.

    So here the fun begins.
    Because I am either not able to follow the instructions or my car does not allow me to store a new value when adding (or removing) a immobilizer paired key.

    I have used this guide: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...V_Key_Matching

    I start VCDS and got to immobilizer

    There I first use measuring blocks to verify my new key is ok.
    It appears to be.
    The value in field 3 is "Yes" while the value in the first field is "No" for the new key.
    Both fields are "Yes" on the original keys.

    Then I exit this menu and enter my PIN in the security menu. It is accepted.
    I can now access the adaptation menu and look at address 01.
    Here it states that I have 2 keys paired to my immobilizer system.
    I can add one to a total of 3 and click 'save'.
    "3" is now displayed in the new value field.

    Instructions on this site then states I should use one key after another and turn the ignition on until the immobilizer icon in the instrument cluster goes out.
    This happens with my two original keys, but my new key only make this icon blink.
    As it should if the key was not programmed correctly.
    So that didnt work.

    I go back into adaptation menu to check and the total number of keys is still 2.
    ok... I try to alter this to 1 and progam just one of my original keys.
    Immo icon goes out and I can start my car with this key. But also with the other original key.
    So I appearantly have not changed the immo adaptation at all.

    I tried again but this time I exited the adaptation menu before trying to cycle the keys.
    Same result.


    Can anyone see something obvious I am doing wrong here?
    Is VCDS not able to program my new key to my car this way?


    I have since I bought it replaced the SWCM to a CH version (it used to be a 1K0 953 549 AE) and replaced the stalks while waiting for a upgraded cluster to arrive.
    This shouldnt prevent the immobilizer system to be programmed should it?
    I drive my car daily and now have cruisecontrol so those new parts seems to work as they should.


    Attached autoscan:

    Code:
    Monday,21,October,2019,21:59:03:42173
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZ6X075733   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 2K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZ6X075733   Mileage: 181420km-112729miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-021-BLS.clb
       Part No SW: 03G 906 021 FF    HW: 028 101 315 7
       Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  8183  
       Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E3202718
       Coding: 0000031
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00176
       VCID: 6889B919DE799097617-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
       Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0105  
       Coding: 0017106
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00156
       VCID: 3FDB4245EB77F72FF0D-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E    HW: 3C0 937 049 E
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
       Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000005292553
       Coding: 09004E030004100032000032320000000009FF075C
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 2B0306150F0F7B8F4C5-807E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 2K1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer VW357  012  0402  
       Coding: 00065493
       Shop #: WSC 35110  
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00156 - Control Circuit for Windshield Washer Pump 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101001
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 121
                        Mileage: 181425 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            ON
                        Voltage: 12.00 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW52.lbl
       Part No SW: 6Q0 909 605 AH    HW: 6Q0 909 605 AH
       Component: 09 AIRBAG VW52  023 2400  
       Revision: 04023000    Serial number: 0037TD08ZL8   
       Coding: 0012345
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00156
       VCID: 7DA7F84DA1FB253FA21-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH    HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
       Component: J0527           056 0111  
       Coding: 0000033
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 7AADF351B0D51207873-802E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 - -
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 2K0 920 842 C
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1012  
       Coding: 0017101
       Shop #: WSC 78411 128 139648
       VCID: 290FFC1D05F3699FBE9-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: Gateway         H10 0120  
       Revision:   H10       Serial number: 2800105C310134
       Coding: 3D0F0100079002
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00156
       VCID: 2A0D031100F56287B73-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No: 2K0 920 842 C
       Component: IMMO            VDD 1012  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 290FFC1D05F3699FBE9-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
       Part No: 1T0 959 701 B
       Component: Tuer-SG         024 2315  
       Coding: 0000048
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 36352761C44D366723B-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 K
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D06 1701  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 33331E75D73F234F045-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
       Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
       Component:    KSG              0401  
       Coding: 008B0C087F2D8405484A016010C0
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00156
       VCID: 79AFEC5DB5D3191F8E9-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
       Part No: 1T0 959 702 B
       Component: Tuer-SG         024 2315  
       Coding: 0000048
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 372B2A65C347CF6F38D-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 00:45, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.8V. VIgn 11.9V)-----

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    Battery voltage is a little low, might be worth charging the battery and trying again:

    Battery voltage at least 12.0 V

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    Please post Advanced ID data from 01-Engine and 25-Immo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant@grendan
    Battery voltage is a little low, might be worth charging the battery and trying again
    Hey thanks for the suggestion.
    I tried this exercise again today with a charger connected to the battery.
    Unfortunately the result is the same.



    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Please post Advanced ID data from 01-Engine and 25-Immo.

    -Uwe-
    Ok so advanced ID

    01-Engine
    Code:
    Tuesday,22,October,2019,21:23:43:42173
    VCDS Version: Release 19.6.2
                    Address 01: Engine
    Control Module Part Number: 03G 906 021 FF
      Component and/or Version: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  8183
               Software Coding: 0000031
                Work Shop Code: WSC 35110
                          VCID: 6889B919DE799097617-803C
    
    Advanced Identification
         Serial number: VWZ7Z0E3202718
         Identification: BPG-810
         Revision: --H01---
         Date: 13.11.05
         Test stand number: 1479
         Manufacturer number: 1225
    Flash Status
         Programming Attempts: 0
         Successful Attempts: 0
         Programming Status: 00000000
         Required Conditions: 00000001
         Flash Tool Code: 00000 000 00000
         Flash Date: 00.00.00
    Software
         P0101
         HAS8   
    Misc.
         Hardware number: 028 101 315 7
    Car Info
         Chassis Number: WV1ZZZ2KZ6X075733
    VCDS Info:
           VCID: 6889B919DE799097617-803C
           Labels: 03G-906-021-BLS.clb
           Readiness: No script available
    and
    25-immobilizer

    Code:
    Tuesday,22,October,2019,21:24:37:42173
    VCDS Version: Release 19.6.2
                    Address 25: Immobilizer
    Control Module Part Number: 2K0 920 842 C
      Component and/or Version: IMMO            VDD 1012
               Software Coding: 
                Work Shop Code: WSC 00000
                          VCID: 290FFC1D05F3699FBE9-807C
    
    Misc.
    VCDS Info:
           VCID: 290FFC1D05F3699FBE9-807C
           Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb

    Hopefully this will mean something to a trained eye...
    Last edited by sttr; 10-22-2019 at 03:41 PM. Reason: fat fingers...

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    If new key isn't learning and old ones are, then I see no ither issue than the key itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfi_vend View Post
    If new key isn't learning and old ones are, then I see no ither issue than the key itself.
    I would normally agree with you on this, but I was not able to program a single key either.
    I tried to do so while troubleshooting.
    Just for giggles and testing, but my other original key (the one *not* programmed) still worked after my first key was programmed in as the single key.
    Leading me to think that I did something wrong in the process and have canceled the adaptation somehow.

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    DO NOT try this, unless some one confirms it is for keys... I seem to recall having to "delete" all keys or remotes before I could match mine... is that a KEY thing, or a REMOTE thing???
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    Hi Allan. Fancy seeing you here 👍😊
    The problem is for the key and the immobilizer.
    The remote part is programmed and working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sttr View Post
    I would normally agree with you on this, but I was not able to program a single key either.
    I tried to do so while troubleshooting.
    Just for giggles and testing, but my other original key (the one *not* programmed) still worked after my first key was programmed in as the single key.
    Leading me to think that I did something wrong in the process and have canceled the adaptation somehow.
    I see now, what You wrote.

    I'm not native English speaker and as I understand it quite well, sometimes I miss stuff...again my bad.

    What happens when You try to start with new key?
    After trying to match only 1 key what does key count say in MVB.

    Is Your known PIN code also accepted when You try to enter it in Engine Security Access?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sttr View Post
    Hi Allan. Fancy seeing you here ����
    The problem is for the key and the immobilizer.
    The remote part is programmed and working.
    I just clicked it was you :-)

    For EITHER my Remotes or Keys, I had to delete them all first, which I think was an adaptation. I Just don't recall what it was for... someone will know though :-D
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