MK4 golf electrical problem

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Sunday,20,October,2019,13:39:00:25110
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
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VIN: 9BWDE61J724020003   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
 
VIN: 9BWDE61J724020003   Mileage: 163280km-101457miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   Part No: 06A 906 032 S2
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0001  
   Coding: 07500
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 6099A2FFC3558267A97-5184
   XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX     XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

9 Faults Found:
18058 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1650 - 35-10 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
18044 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1636 - 35-10 - Missing Message from Airbag Controller - Intermittent
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1649 - 35-10 - Missing Message from ABS Controller - Intermittent
17881 - EVAP Leak Detection Pump 
            P1473 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
16486 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
            P0102 - 35-00 - Signal too Low
16519 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1; Heating Circuit 
            P0135 - 35-10 - Malfunction - Intermittent
17511 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B1 S1 
            P1103 - 35-10 - Performance too Low - Intermittent
16621 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31) 
            P0237 - 35-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
16490 - Manifold / Barometric Pressure Sensor (G71) / (F96) 
            P0106 - 35-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Readiness: 0010 0100

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ASR.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 D
   Component: ASR FRONT MK60      0103  
   Coding: 0021505
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 2B0305D3FF13113F4C5-5184

2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
   Component: 08 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0004  
   Coding: 12344
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 270BF9E3E6FB355FA8D-5160

3 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 906 J
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02  
   Coding: 07232
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 2F3B11C3CE0B6D1F60D-5160
   9BWDE61J724020003     VWZ7Z0A3900683

4 Faults Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00001  
   VCID: 70B9D2BF13B532E7397-5160

4 Faults Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: 1J Komfortgerát HLO 0003  
   Coding: 00064
   Shop #: WSC 00001  
   VCID: 372B29A3365BA5DF38D-4B1E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
   Component: 1J Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0002  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
   Component: 1J Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0002  

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 3B7 035 180 G
   Component: RADIO 3CP          0005  
   Coding: 04031
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 2411EEEF97CDDE478DF-5160

No fault code found.

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I figured I would start with the MAF. I found a pin out 1-gnd 2-not used 3-5vdc 4-signal 0-5 vdc. with the Maf unplugged the only reading I got was battery voltage on pin 4
is there anything in common with my codes ?
honestly I can't make sense out of the wiring diagrams. I was hoping somebody would have some short cuts. I'll be checking grounds and fuses while I wait for the magic answer.
Dave
 
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Oh I was working under the dash last week if that sheds any light
 
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Oh I was working under the dash last week if that sheds any light
Some of connectors in "electric box" between passenger compartment and engine bay not connected?
First clear all fault codes in all modules, do a new autoscan and post it here.
P.S. use "code" tags for it.
 
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Some of connectors in "electric box" between passenger compartment and engine bay not connected?
First clear all fault codes in all modules, do a new autoscan and post it here.
+1.

Almost all those faults are flagged "Intermittent". They may be residue from having had stuff unplugged while he was working under the dash?

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Not all of them is correct but but but.....and clearly FOD modified?
Yeah well I'm wondering why there is a code for front OXS heater and not rear but readiness for CAT & OXS are ready?

Could be a consumer short that is not reflected in the stack is what I'm saying, right?

How about reflash to stock to see what other codes pop up and to an inspection of ECU for burn down inside visually?

What is FP relay status?

Can you perform outputs with VCDS?

Are you sure battery connections are okay and ground points under battery, with full functional ignition switch?
 
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Thank you very much for the well thought out answers. Unfortunately that auto scan was after I cleared the codes. I have no idea of the tune it came with the car. the rear 02 is programmed out. If cleaning up the connections under the dash doesn't clear things up I do have a stock ecu I can swap in.
I haven't tried doing output controls yet. I will also try to figure out what code tags are.
 
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I have no idea of the tune it came with the car. the rear 02 is programmed out.

Interesting, is your "known" code out of the rear OXS, a result of some type of "ECM" ( Electronic Countermeasure ) of the possible tuner & for touching their equally nefarious behavior?

I do have a stock ecu I can swap in

That's an idea ain't it Smitty?

I haven't tried doing output controls yet.

Why?

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