VW UP Cruise retrofit successful

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This 2018 ecoUP didn't have cruise from factory.
I helped a guy out and installed it. All new wiring done from scratch. Also added wire for later MFSW.

VCDS is missing out a ton of information. Like Coding table for BCM and ECU.
Luckily it is like Polo BCM so cruise bit was same, ECU info I got luckily from another scan.
I'm still unaware of coding for MFSW and trip buttons to uncode.

Engine - Byte 5 Bit 5 Cruise installed
BCM - Byte 17 bit 7 Cruise Installed


He also had issues with G85 sensor. Seems like VCDS isn't able to calibrate these things anymore as it requires switching to EOL-mode to perform calibration. From ODIS log I can see something about Seed Key login before adaption is carried out.
Experienced similar thing with newer VW Caddy and Transporter ABS also.


Code:
Saturday,19,October,2019,02:56:44:10298
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: LeVWFreaks.eu

VIN: WVWZZZAAZJD   License Plate: TÕRUKESE SÕBRA UP VEAVABA
Mileage: 19870km-12346mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AA-VW12 (1S0)
Scan: 01 03 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 5F 61

VIN: WVWZZZAAZJD   Mileage: 19870km-12346miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (------CPGA)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 04C 906 020 EE    HW: 04C 907 309 AF
   Component: R3 1.0l CPI   H12 3828  
   Revision: U5H12---    
   Coding: 00110030002401000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10CPI01104C906020EE 001004
   ROD: EV_ECM10CPI01104C906020EE.rod
   VCID: 629D5738C4CD32B7BF3-8036

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0001

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1S0-614-517.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 P    HW: 1S0 614 517 P
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H17 0030  
   Serial number: A01R5TR
   Coding: 12BF247129B602F748FE24F994AD40505F0100
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPEBC460TRW 002107
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPEBC460TRW_002_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3C21C94006E92447D5F-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 1S0 937 090 H    HW: 1S0 937 090 H
   Component: BCM PQ25 1MX4 H82 0752  
   Revision: BW082001    Serial number: 5000 103180756
   Coding: 62B8290000010000080001D06CABACD079C0706D60CF2D602101000B0800
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3829D55032510867317-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 591 D    HW: 6R0 959 591 D
   Component: J245 PS72.405  H04 0005 
   Serial number: 0000FST001ZIC5Z00000
   Coding: 181000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Sx-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 919 475 B    HW: 1Q0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 3K  H03 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32931809606569
   Coding: 108004
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000 001009
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000.rod
   VCID: 392FD05409DB116FCE9-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 959 655 C    HW: 1S0 959 655 C
   Component: VW10Airbag02W H03 0007  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003UB00666EX
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003257
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
   VCID: 3E25C34810F53657FBB-806A

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB400U5DPT679OC

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB401G5DNAKFH1T

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3557BRB40535ALPUM8B+

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 1Sx-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1S0 920 870 B    HW: 1S0 920 870 B
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0010  
   Revision: X0005001    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 114A010000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A05808
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_A05_VW12.rod
   VCID: 3039ED70DAA1D027797-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1S0 909 901     HW: 1S0 937 090 H
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0752  
   Revision: BW082001    
   Coding: 001000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 70B92D701AA19027397-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 1S0 920 870 B
   Component: IMMO          H05 0010  
   Revision: X0005001    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01702
   ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW12.rod
   VCID: 6A8D3F183CFD6AF7773-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6R1 909 144 AN    HW: 6R1 909 144 E
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  313 3150  
   Serial number: CI4G0601
   Coding: 000700
   Shop #: WSC 63672 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 016134
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW.rod
   VCID: 035372BC3B979BBFD45-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 1S0 035 867     HW: 1S0 035 867 
   Component: MU-E--EU      069 7358  
   Serial number: 20031800020627
   Coding: 02210000280000004011000101000200000004C40000010000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001032
   ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW12.rod
   VCID: 71BF2874112B992F369-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 907 534     HW: 1S0 937 090 H
   Component: Batt.regelung H82 0752  
   Serial number: 5000 103180756
   Coding: 032B7864
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 70B92D701AA19027397-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1S0 915 181 C    HW: 1S0 915 181 C
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0270 
   Serial number: 55086C07015861933171

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:46, VBatt start/end: 13.2V/13.2V)-----------
 
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VCDS is missing out a ton of information. Like Coding table for BCM and ECU.
A ton, maybe kilo's :D
Just ask.

01-07.png

09-07-1.png


I'm still unaware of coding for MFSW and trip buttons to uncode.
I have to check later if there should be more items.
09-07-2.png


He also had issues with G85 sensor. Seems like VCDS isn't able to calibrate these things anymore as it requires switching to EOL-mode to perform calibration.
I would think it should be possible.
 
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I've sent adpmaps to support@.... .

I'll also leave this here. It was good to know, that this car had BCM-high due to sunroof. Honestly, I didn't check this beforehand.
29-05-2012_10-38-28.png

https://www.upownersclub.co.uk/forum/19-modifications/841-installing-cruise-control.html

Also, What was intresting for me, that MVB 004.2 - CCS Cancel switch was always ACTIVE, when You pushed it in Cancel position, it became not operated.

Thanks Niels, once the guy gets MFSW installed I'll do coding.
PS! This car will also get AC retrofitted, luckily not by me. :)
 
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Thanks Magnus,

I replied to your maps with ABS EOL suggestions in the event that you have time to test that when the MFSW is installed.

Next, as far as that momentary (or inverted) CCS position goes we still have some discrepancies in that area:

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...-7E0-BCM-gt-cancel-switch&p=157679#post157679

I believe there is either difference between CCS via Stalk -and- MFSW ... or there is a difference between steering wheel types (MK6 versus Mk7 button arrangements and LIN type). The 2017 Jetta S (with factory Mk7 wheel) showed Cancel Not Oper. when released and Operated only when pressed momentarily.

Hopefully we sort out the details so all of the PQ25 family BCM labels are correct in the future.
 
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Does it have a start/stop system (bluemotion/bluemotion tech)? If so, you'll have the BCM Max 090x for that reason.
 
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i wrote in other topic regarding MFSW for vw UP tried on 2 vw Up
one is 2017 and has BCM - 1S0 937 090 F not possible to code MFSW

and other is 2019 - 1S0 937 090 J - i can code MFSW but tested not working

i bought original Wheel from Vw Up 2019 and installation for Vw Up 2019
and still have this error

Code:
Saturday,12,October,2019,17:01:49:36287
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZAAZKD160355   License Plate: 



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                Address 09: Cent. Elect.       Labels: Redir Fail!
Control Module Part Number: 1S0 937 090 J    HW: 1S0 937 090 J
  Component and/or Version: BCM PQ25 1MX4 H82 0762
           Software Coding: 7FB829002001000000080FC06CABBCD079C0706D60CF2D602101000B0900
            Work Shop Code: WSC 31414 790 00001
                      VCID: 3A2CC714FC574227C4D-806E
1 Fault Found:

01326 - Control Module for Multi-Function Steering Wheel (J453) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 18
                    Mileage: 802 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2006.14.03
                    Time: 23:40:26

this is complete coding from Vw Up GTI with MFSW

can someone source wire diagram for 2019 MF ?
i have only until 2015

tnx
 
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So to add some info on this,

MFSW in UP 2019 is working ! :)

coding is Ok, but there is no wires to Slip ring, you need to connect one wire from BCM and one +.
 
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