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    VW UP Cruise retrofit successful

    This 2018 ecoUP didn't have cruise from factory.
    I helped a guy out and installed it. All new wiring done from scratch. Also added wire for later MFSW.

    VCDS is missing out a ton of information. Like Coding table for BCM and ECU.
    Luckily it is like Polo BCM so cruise bit was same, ECU info I got luckily from another scan.
    I'm still unaware of coding for MFSW and trip buttons to uncode.

    Engine - Byte 5 Bit 5 Cruise installed
    BCM - Byte 17 bit 7 Cruise Installed


    He also had issues with G85 sensor. Seems like VCDS isn't able to calibrate these things anymore as it requires switching to EOL-mode to perform calibration. From ODIS log I can see something about Seed Key login before adaption is carried out.
    Experienced similar thing with newer VW Caddy and Transporter ABS also.


    Code:
    Saturday,19,October,2019,02:56:44:10298
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
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    Dealer/Shop Name: LeVWFreaks.eu
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAAZJD   License Plate: TÕRUKESE SÕBRA UP VEAVABA
    Mileage: 19870km-12346mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: AA-VW12 (1S0)
    Scan: 01 03 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 5F 61
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAAZJD   Mileage: 19870km-12346miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (------CPGA)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 04C 906 020 EE    HW: 04C 907 309 AF
       Component: R3 1.0l CPI   H12 3828  
       Revision: U5H12---    
       Coding: 00110030002401000000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10CPI01104C906020EE 001004
       ROD: EV_ECM10CPI01104C906020EE.rod
       VCID: 629D5738C4CD32B7BF3-8036
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0110 0001
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1S0-614-517.clb
       Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 P    HW: 1S0 614 517 P
       Component: EBC 460 ESP   H17 0030  
       Serial number: A01R5TR
       Coding: 12BF247129B602F748FE24F994AD40505F0100
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPEBC460TRW 002107
       ROD: EV_Brake1ESPEBC460TRW_002_VW25.rod
       VCID: 3C21C94006E92447D5F-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 1S0 937 090 H    HW: 1S0 937 090 H
       Component: BCM PQ25 1MX4 H82 0752  
       Revision: BW082001    Serial number: 5000 103180756
       Coding: 62B8290000010000080001D06CABACD079C0706D60CF2D602101000B0800
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 3829D55032510867317-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 591 D    HW: 6R0 959 591 D
       Component: J245 PS72.405  H04 0005 
       Serial number: 0000FST001ZIC5Z00000
       Coding: 181000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Sx-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 1S0 919 475 B    HW: 1Q0 919 475 
       Component: PARKHILFE 3K  H03 0013  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 32931809606569
       Coding: 108004
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000 001009
       ROD: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000.rod
       VCID: 392FD05409DB116FCE9-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 1S0 959 655 C    HW: 1S0 959 655 C
       Component: VW10Airbag02W H03 0007  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003UB00666EX
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003257
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001001
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
       VCID: 3E25C34810F53657FBB-806A
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3575HRB400U5DPT679OC
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3585HRB401G5DNAKFH1T
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3557BRB40535ALPUM8B+
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 1Sx-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 1S0 920 870 B    HW: 1S0 920 870 B
       Component: KOMBI         H05 0010  
       Revision: X0005001    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 114A010000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A05808
       ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_A05_VW12.rod
       VCID: 3039ED70DAA1D027797-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 1S0 909 901     HW: 1S0 937 090 H
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0752  
       Revision: BW082001    
       Coding: 001000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 70B92D701AA19027397-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 1S0 920 870 B
       Component: IMMO          H05 0010  
       Revision: X0005001    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01702
       ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW12.rod
       VCID: 6A8D3F183CFD6AF7773-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 6R1 909 144 AN    HW: 6R1 909 144 E
       Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  313 3150  
       Serial number: CI4G0601
       Coding: 000700
       Shop #: WSC 63672 002 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 016134
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW.rod
       VCID: 035372BC3B979BBFD45-8056
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:* None
       Part No SW: 1S0 035 867     HW: 1S0 035 867 
       Component: MU-E--EU      069 7358  
       Serial number: 20031800020627
       Coding: 02210000280000004011000101000200000004C40000010000
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001032
       ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW12.rod
       VCID: 71BF2874112B992F369-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
       Part No SW: 1S0 907 534     HW: 1S0 937 090 H
       Component: Batt.regelung H82 0752  
       Serial number: 5000 103180756
       Coding: 032B7864
       Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       VCID: 70B92D701AA19027397-8024
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1S0 915 181 C    HW: 1S0 915 181 C
       Component: J367-BDM  H08 0270 
       Serial number: 55086C07015861933171
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:46, VBatt start/end: 13.2V/13.2V)-----------
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfi_vend View Post
    VCDS is missing out a ton of information. Like Coding table for BCM and ECU.
    A ton, maybe kilo's
    Just ask.




    Quote Originally Posted by golfi_vend View Post
    I'm still unaware of coding for MFSW and trip buttons to uncode.
    I have to check later if there should be more items.


    Quote Originally Posted by golfi_vend View Post
    He also had issues with G85 sensor. Seems like VCDS isn't able to calibrate these things anymore as it requires switching to EOL-mode to perform calibration.
    I would think it should be possible.

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    I've sent adpmaps to support@.... .

    I'll also leave this here. It was good to know, that this car had BCM-high due to sunroof. Honestly, I didn't check this beforehand.

    https://www.upownersclub.co.uk/forum...e-control.html

    Also, What was intresting for me, that MVB 004.2 - CCS Cancel switch was always ACTIVE, when You pushed it in Cancel position, it became not operated.

    Thanks Niels, once the guy gets MFSW installed I'll do coding.
    PS! This car will also get AC retrofitted, luckily not by me.
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    Thanks Magnus,

    I replied to your maps with ABS EOL suggestions in the event that you have time to test that when the MFSW is installed.

    Next, as far as that momentary (or inverted) CCS position goes we still have some discrepancies in that area:

    https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...679#post157679

    I believe there is either difference between CCS via Stalk -and- MFSW ... or there is a difference between steering wheel types (MK6 versus Mk7 button arrangements and LIN type). The 2017 Jetta S (with factory Mk7 wheel) showed Cancel Not Oper. when released and Operated only when pressed momentarily.

    Hopefully we sort out the details so all of the PQ25 family BCM labels are correct in the future.

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    Does it have a start/stop system (bluemotion/bluemotion tech)? If so, you'll have the BCM Max 090x for that reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iichel View Post
    Does it have a start/stop system (bluemotion/bluemotion tech)? If so, you'll have the BCM Max 090x for that reason.
    Indeed it does.
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