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    Swap DSG to manual VCDS coding

    Hello everyone,
    i would like to swap dsg to manual Skoda octavia 1.6 TDI 81KW model year 2016
    The questions is not ow to swap by hardware but software. I have all parts for swapping.

    Which unit i need to coding? Engine, abs and what next? please dont ask me why i want to split transmission.

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    Sunday,21,October,2018,18:19:59:03824
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)
    Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: TMBJG7NE7G0050448   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 24648km-15315mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: NE-SK37 (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F
    
    VIN: TMBJG7NE7G0050448   Mileage: 24648km-15315miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (2D2D2-CXXB)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04L 906 056 CR    HW: 04L 907 445 B
       Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H06 2797  
       Revision: 22004001    
       Coding: 01254012432419090000
       Shop #: WSC 41694 002 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI03004L906056CR 002007
       ROD: EV_ECM16TDI_002_VW37.rod
       VCID: 7F0D7E87E6F38CB2AC-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: N/A
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0CW-927-769.clb
       Part No SW: 0CW 300 048 J    HW: 0AM 927 769 E
       Component: GSG DQ200G2_M H05 0611  
       Revision: 00005005    Serial number: CU501507115569
       Coding: 0014
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
       ROD: EV_TCMDQ200021_VW31.rod
       VCID: 43853277CA9B285288-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 T    HW: 3Q0 907 379 C
       Component: ESC           H32 0393  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 51865000004239
       Coding: 1C0762911425096C007B060441CB243846289000608224F200410070C002
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 034033
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_034_VW37.rod
       VCID: 4B951A57E2CBE01270-801E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5E0 907 044 R    HW: 5E0 907 044 R
       Component: Climatronic   H04 1002  
       Revision: 00001K07    
       Coding: 02010104002100011005004000101800
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 004131
       ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_004_SK37.rod
       VCID: 346761AB9F359FEA01-8060
    
       Fresh Air Blower Front: 
    
       Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 
    
       Air quality sensor: 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 086 AJ    HW: 5Q0 937 086 AJ
       Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 028 0162  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 86580807150008
       Coding: 0C001846424702FB47E04000000407080000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 015002
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_015.rod
       VCID: 020BF7739501E15AC3-8056
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E1 955 119     HW: 5E1 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS371 140512  041 0570 
       Serial number:         140514022958
       Coding: 065DDD
    
       Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 A    HW: 5Q0 955 547 A  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
       Component: RLHS  037 0059 
       Serial number: S5Y15M07D16H04M09S34
       Coding: 00885D
    
       Relative Air Humidity Interior Sender: 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 283 F    HW: 5Q0 919 283 
       Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H10 0054  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 39231518903256
       Coding: 0001050011
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 002024
       ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_002_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3C77498BB76557AAC9-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 959 655 AS    HW: 3Q0 959 655 AS
       Component: Airbag VW20   013 0200  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003SQPD72V06
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C5400CC000800000065
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X 001116
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X.rod
       VCID: 0F2DCE47D6539C325C-805A
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 001 005 14
       Component: SideSensor_Df  008 0887 
       Serial number: 3576U000000C58458F0M
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 002 706 15
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  008 0887 
       Serial number: 3586U0000007AA24E41I
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 607 15
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  301 0148 
       Serial number: 3516R42495507000000Z
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 407 15
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  301 0148 
       Serial number: 3526R474B2D070000005
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 706 15
       Component: FrontSensor_D  304 0149 
       Serial number: 3556VDCA61F07000000S
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 GP    HW: 5Q0 953 549 E
       Component: Lenks. Modul  003 0110  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 11071504400772
       Coding: 1410
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_012_AU37.rod
       VCID: 0A1BDF53AD31B91A8B-805E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
       Part No SW: 5E0 920 781 B    HW: 5E0 920 781 B
       Component: KOMBI         206 7640  
       Coding: 07AD0A082180000801087E001000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB 009005
       ROD: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
       VCID: 275D86E75EE3E472B4-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AE    HW: 5Q0 907 530 E
       Component: GW MQB Mid    127 1223  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0003701089
       Coding: 030100040F087300EB0002481C0F00010001050000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 013020
       ROD: EV_GatewLear_013_VW37.rod
       VCID: 74E7A1ABDFB5DFEAC1-8020
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3V0 919 719 A    HW: 3V0 919 719 A
       Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H02 0150 
       Serial number: 000000000D0734060715
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 F    HW: 5Q0 915 181 F
       Component: J367-BDM  H08 0223 
       Serial number: 62180F11364291354552
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 393 E    HW: 5Q4 959 393 B
       Component: TSG FS        010 0031  
       Serial number: 0000158203390 
       Coding: 001001208000040000001100
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 45812C6FC4AF1662A6-8010
    
       Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 A    HW: 5Q0 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0005 
       Serial number: 00000000000002777722
       Coding: 010200
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 R    HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  126 1061  
       Coding: 0103
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_012_VW37.rod
       VCID: 43853277CA9B285288-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 392 E    HW: 5Q4 959 392 B
       Component: TSG BFS       010 0031  
       Serial number: 0000155422505 
       Coding: 001001208000040000001100
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 4487316BCF952F6AB1-8010
    
       Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 A    HW: 5Q0 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0005 
       Serial number: 00000000000006695508
       Coding: 190200
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 3V0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 035 864 A    HW: 5Q0 035 864 A
       Component: MU-S-N-ER     H24 0241  
       Serial number: SKZAZ2R8690735
       Coding: 03730201FF00000011110001000002002F0200C401200100C4
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW36.rod
       VCID: 316968BF6027AAC26A-8064
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 605 J    HW: 5E0 919 605 J
       Component: ABT_Std-2_Nav  H41 1028 
       Serial number: SKZ8Z9RBT00C9Y      
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5L0 051 236 AD    HW: -----------
       Component: ECE1 2018  --- 0915 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:58)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 10-14-2019 at 02:28 PM. Reason: HTML -> CODE

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    First question is: Does that ECU support/allow manual transmission? Many modern ECUs have different software in them for manual transmission. All the scans I have found for it show it with an automatic. You might need a different ECU, or someone who can flash in different software.

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    if the coding in ECU is accesible, i mean i can uncheck automatic transmission so it will be work ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krason View Post
    if the coding in ECU is accesible, i mean i can uncheck automatic transmission so it will be work ?
    Only if the ECU software is compatible with both manual & automatic transmission - which as Uwe said isn't always the case.

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    so if i totally replace all parts and software stay DSG it will be not working?
    Which number say about version of software? H06 2797

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    This is seat manual
    Address 01: Engine (2D2D2-CXXB) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 04L 906 056 CL HW: 04L 907 445 B
    Component: R4 1.6l TDI H06 2506
    Revision: 22004001
    Coding: 01114032434401090000
    Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00125
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI03004L906056CL 002006
    ROD: EV_ECM16TDI03004L906056_002_VW37.rod
    VCID: 79D71675F881EF8DF2-802C

    this is a skoda manual
    Address 01: Engine (2D2D2-CXXB) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 04L 906 056 CL HW: 04L 907 445 B
    Component: R4 1.6l TDI H06 2506
    Revision: 22004001
    Coding: 01114012430519090000
    Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI03004L906056CL 002006
    ROD: EV_ECM16TDI03004L906056_002_VW37.rod
    VCID: 79AFED00095A18FF8E9-802C


    this is my DSG
    Address 01: Engine (2D2D2-CXXB) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 04L 906 056 CR HW: 04L 907 445 B
    Component: R4 1.6l TDI H06 2797
    Revision: 22004001
    Coding: 01254012432419090000
    Shop #: WSC 41694 002 1048576
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI03004L906056CR 002007
    ROD: EV_ECM16TDI_002_VW37.rod
    VCID: 7F0D7E87E6F38CB2AC-802A
    Last edited by krason; 10-15-2019 at 04:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krason View Post
    This is seat manual
    Address 01: Engine (2D2D2-CXXB) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 04L 906 056 CL HW: 04L 907 445 B

    this is a skoda manual
    Address 01: Engine (2D2D2-CXXB) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 04L 906 056 CL HW: 04L 907 445 B

    this is my DSG
    Address 01: Engine (2D2D2-CXXB) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 04L 906 056 CR HW: 04L 907 445 B
    See how the manual engine ECUs have SW version ending in CL but your DSG engine ECU has SW version ending CR?

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    So software can be replaced or reflashed via any tool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krason View Post
    So software can be replaced or reflashed via any tool?
    Not with VCDS, but with some other tool

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