2012 Audi A3 Safe Fault

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60 reg audi a3. car was started with key which was not programmed, started up briefly but cut out and safe came on instrument panel and now will not start with working keys. safe is in display on instrument cluster. no faults stored in immobiliser. live data shows keys are good, can anyone help please.
 
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"60 reg" doesn't mean a thing to anyone outside the UK, and even there, it's not definitive as to the model year of the car.

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sorry uwe. full scan attached.

Code:
Friday,11,October,2019,16:37:07:42542
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0
Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ8P9CA036042   License Plate: FR61OTG
Mileage: 136600km-84879mi   Repair Order: EMERALD



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Chassis Type: 8P-AU35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 2E 37 42 44 46 52 55 56
          62 72 77

VIN: WAUZZZ8P9CA036042   Mileage: 136600km-84879miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (CDL)       Labels:. 06F-907-115-CDL.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 115 K    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0010  
   Revision: 5BH20---    Serial number: AUX7Z0K6FNJ06M
   Coding: 0103000C1C0F0160
   Shop #: WSC 00191 264 15243
   VCID: 326BCB6DAD894FDF61-8066

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 013 S    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2731  
   Revision: 05351113    Serial number: 00001107080242
   Coding: 0000024
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 21493421F86FC44788-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 BJ
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0121  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 1642801249250000680B01E8921B0081390000
   Shop #: WSC 29065 001 1048576
   VCID: 7BF52649FA434E97F2-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 BN    HW: 8P0 820 043 BN
   Component: KlimavollautomatH09 0180  
   Revision: 000576      Serial number: 8P0820043BN   
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 79F93C41307F7C87E0-802C

1 Fault Found:
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 45
                    Mileage: 136608 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.10.09
                    Time: 00:00:21

             Freeze Frame:


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8P0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 063 N    HW: 8P0 907 063 N
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   110 0653  
   Revision: 00110 AF    
   Coding: 4E000A2FA005F0C0207241E00000095C421E2BAA304DD928E40008840040
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3F8D9259AEDB92B79E-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8P2 955 119 F    HW: 8P2 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AU350  H11 0050 
   Coding: 00DD13

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8P0 951 177 
   Component: Innenraumuebe  H04 0020 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssenso  005 0003 

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 8P0-919-475-7X2.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 919 475 N    HW: 8P0 919 475 N
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H01 0140  
   Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 12561120002909
   Coding: 10010A
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 49998C81E01F2C0730-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 8P0-959-655-10.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 S    HW: 8P0 959 655 S
   Component: Airbag AU1042 H09 0250  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003JU0035N63
   Coding: 30314238303830303037554A305238503053
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
   ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
   VCID: 52ABABED05496FDF41-8006

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3572DRB40000DEE0E121

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3582DRB40000DEDCEA3N

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 35128RB4000064AF13ES

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 35228RB4000064B354DM

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 35547RB4000064E9D66 

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 35647RB4000064E9D93$

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 K    HW: 8P0 953 549 K
   Component: J0527           H37 0070  
   Coding: 0014142
   Shop #: WSC 33308 001 1048576
   VCID: 468387BD3101C37FDD-8012

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           H06 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 983 A    HW: 8P0 920 983 A
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H02 0150  
   Revision: D0H02002    Serial number: 2246K002000203
   Coding: 0257428
   Shop #: WSC 65536 645 577705
   VCID: 387FF9454BF5A58F5F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 H    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H42 1620  
   Revision:   H42       Serial number: 040711F2001036
   Coding: 352103
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3561F0719CE758E744-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0BR 907 554 C    HW: 0BR 907 554 C
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      3018  
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 458180B10C07C867D4-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 983 A    HW: 8P0 920 983 A
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H02 0150  
   Revision: D0H02002    Serial number: AUX7Z0K6FNJ06M
   Shop #: WSC 12222 000 00000
   VCID: 387FF9454BF5A58F5F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (R199)       Labels:. 8T0-035-785.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 785     HW: 8P0 035 785 
   Component: SG ext.Player H08 0100  
   Revision: 00000000    
   Coding: 020202
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 74E70D75D71D01EFB3-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 193 G    HW: 8P0 035 193 G
   Component: RNS-E PU EU     H06 0200  
   Revision: 0000012S    Serial number: AUZBZ7LD213872
   Coding: 0229725
   Shop #: WSC 00751 751 80580
   VCID: 3467CD75579D41EF73-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 Q    HW: 8P0 959 801 Q
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0101  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 49998C81201F2C0730-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 234    3201  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 3467CD75579D41EF73-8060

1 Fault Found:
03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid 
            000 - - - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 136608 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.10.09
                    Time: 00:09:13

             Freeze Frame:
                    Battery Volts: 13.0 V
                        DD
                    Temperature: 22.0°C
                    Count: 2
                    Steering Angle: 0.00°
                    Count: 0
                        SteerAng n.Init


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 Q    HW: 8P0 959 802 Q
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0101  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 4A9BB38D2519271F39-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 8P3 907 357 B
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0010  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000013
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3C77E5557FCD89AFBB-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 193 G    HW: 8P0 035 193 G
   Component: RNS-E PU EU     H06 0200  
   Revision: 0000012S    Serial number: AUZBZ7LD213872
   Coding: 0229725
   Shop #: WSC 00751 751 80580
   VCID: 3467CD75579D41EF73-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 F    HW: 8P4 959 801 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0050  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
   VCID: 428B9BAD1D29FF5FF1-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 959 802 F    HW: 8P4 959 802 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0050  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
   VCID: 43859EA90233F657FA-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P1 862 335 A    HW: 8P1 862 335 
   Component: FSE_256x BT     H44 0660  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005423982
   Coding: 0011422
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 3561F0715CE758E744-8060

No fault code found.

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Maybe try a battery jesus: unhook the battery cables, touch them together for 30 seconds, hook battery back up and see if the Immobilizer plays nice.
 
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Maybe try a battery jesus: unhook the battery cables, touch them together for 30 seconds, hook battery back up and see if the Immobilizer plays nice.
Tryed that m8. Still the same
 
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OK, what does "will not start" mean? Won't crank? Cranks and won't fire? Cranks, fires, and dies?

I don't see anything in that scan that gives us any real clues.

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OK, what does "will not start" mean? Won't crank? Cranks and won't fire? Cranks, fires, and dies?

I don't see anything in that scan that gives us any real clues.

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It cranks fires and dies.
 
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Often caused by the key no longer being matched to the immobiliser.
Yes, but a key that was matched doesn't become unmatched just by using another key that "was not programmed". I would guess there's more to this story than we know right now.

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The 2 keys in live data are showing programmed. Both fixed code and variable code. The live data just shows engine ecu not permitted car to start. The car came with 3 keys. 1 is showing not programmed.this was apparently the car to go into safe mode.
 
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