Coding out faulty sensor

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I have an intermittent fault occurring on the oil thermal sensor in my Yeti. It's probably the sensor itself, but as a temporary measure is it possible to simply code out the sensor to stop the bloody warning light flashing up every few miles when it decided it wants to?


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Wednesday,09,October,2019,18:45:44:61903
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Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
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VIN: TMBMD75L2G*******   License Plate: YETI
Mileage: 111980km-69581mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 5L-SK35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 2B 42 44 46 52 55 5F 61
          62 72

VIN: TMBMD75L2G*******   Mileage: 111980km-69581miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CUUB)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 016 J    HW: 04L 907 309 K
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H20 1186  
   Revision: 8AH20---    
   Coding: 01190012042701091000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906016J 001003
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906016F_001.rod
   VCID: 303A1AB3CAAC4F777A9-8064

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CB    HW: 1K0 907 379 CB
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0174  
   Revision: 00H46001    
   Coding: 933F400E09240103C90E02EB9020809AA1000021
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 74B2D6A37EB43357DE1-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202  
   Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0370993080
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW31.rod
   VCID: 372821AF2FC2984F3B3-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 CJ    HW: 3T0 907 044 CJ
   Component: Climatronic   H19 0709  
   Revision: 00001009    
   Coding: 0010000003
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK35.rod
   VCID: 7CA2FE8356647B17961-8028

3 Faults Found:
9472881 - Motor for Fresh Air / Recirculated Air Flap 
          B108B 71 [008] - Actuator stuck
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 155
                    Mileage: 105409 km
                    Date: 2019.07.22
                    Time: 10:11:48

9472882 - Motor for Fresh Air / Recirculated Air Flap 
          B108B 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 211
                    Mileage: 105310 km
                    Date: 2019.07.21
                    Time: 16:42:37

9476885 - Position Sensor for Fresh/Recirculated Flap Motor 
          B109B 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 142
                    Mileage: 110233 km
                    Date: 2019.09.24
                    Time: 14:42:43


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 AR    HW: 1K0 937 087 AR
   Component: BCM PQ35  H   112 0903  
   Revision: AC112903    
   Coding: 4E000ABCE01BF1C0440800C0110089E44B7100AE666D87F08081C704A041
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   VCID: 015C8F77310616FFC57-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5L2 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: SK356  26  0610 
   Coding: 00F7B5

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 150915 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 062BED

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5J0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5J0 919 475 C    HW: 5J0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0011  
   Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 32961525500848
   Coding: 108007
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000 002001
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000_002.rod
   VCID: 35342BA735CE6A5F29F-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 B    HW: 5C0 959 655 B
   Component: AirbagVW10    014 0613  
   Serial number: 003G5RAV523G  
   Coding: 00004E42
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01014
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 313C1FB7C1A6467F757-8064

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME65011E53ZZZS

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME4F642C54ZZZ3

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3516KSME2C064939ZZZY

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ---- 
   Serial number: 3526KSME6A094939ZZZ/

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 DT    HW: 5K0 953 569 AH
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0162  
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20150904300396
   Coding: 1002140000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 015C8F77318616FFC57-8054

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 719 L    HW: 5E0 919 719 L
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H02 0150 
   Serial number: 000000000B0968110915
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5L0 920 940 T    HW: 5L0 920 940 T
   Component: KOMBI         H03 1007  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 420E210100
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05730
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_SK26.rod
   VCID: 3D2433870DFEB21FE1F-8068

1 Fault Found:
9453842 - Oil Level Thermal Sensor 
          B1041 35 [009] - Signal high time > maximum
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 115
                    Mileage: 111987 km
                    Date: 2019.10.09
                    Time: 18:41:23


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BE    HW: 7N0 907 530 AL
   Component: J533  Gateway H58 1673  
   Revision:   H58       Serial number: 170915F1003184
   Coding: 356323
   Shop #: WSC 30504 002 1048576
   VCID: 74B2D6A37EB43357DE1-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
   Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 J    HW: 0CQ 525 130 
   Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7531  
   Serial number: HA1-00029.07.15
   Coding: 0301
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002015
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X.rod
   VCID: 52FE703BA4605D672CD-8006

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 1007  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8EC8DB2CF0F5A774D-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 15000193421008
   Coding: 4100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 303A1AB3CAAC4F777A9-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 7N0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 793 J    HW: 7N0 959 793 G
   Component: TSG FA        H04 0561  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000165582676 
   Coding: 01150220D001231003
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 49CC575749B61EBF5D7-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3501  
   Revision: 00H22000    
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 392C279715568E3FCD7-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 7N0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 792 J    HW: 7N0 959 792 G
   Component: TSG BF        H04 0561  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000167133767 
   Coding: 01150020D001231003
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 48CA525352BCE7B7429-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:. 5M0-907-357-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 F    HW: 7L6 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-ECU       H05 0111  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 03DE00003F000000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002016
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt_VW32.rod
   VCID: 372821AF2FC2984F3B3-8062

   Left_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB

   Right_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1T0 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 3V0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 5L0 035 200 C    HW: 5L0 035 200 C
   Component: MU-S-D-ER     H22 0245  
   Serial number: SKZAZ2R8856584
   Coding: 03130600FF00000011111201008800002F0000C60120810000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_SK35.rod
   VCID: 1E66D40BA038C907D85-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AL
   Component: Batt.regelung H58 1673  
   Serial number: 170915F1003184
   Coding: 030F1873
   Shop #: WSC 30504 002 1048576
   VCID: 71BCDFB701A6067F357-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180 
   Serial number: 42251412211491655569

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 7N0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 795 F    HW: 7N0 959 795 E
   Component: TSG HL        H04 0561  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000166784151 
   Coding: 010000200001531004
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 47C8516F5FA2E8CF4B3-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 7N0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 795 F    HW: 7N0 959 795 E
   Component: TSG HR        H04 0561  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000166784145 
   Coding: 010000200001531004
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 47C8516F5FA2E8CF4B3-8012

No fault code found.

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I have an intermittent fault occurring on the oil thermal sensor in my Yeti. It's probably the sensor itself, but as a temporary measure is it possible to simply code out the sensor to stop the bloody warning light flashing up every few miles when it decided it wants to?

That would be a possible defeat device and it wouldn't be a wise choice either.
 
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Does your engine have an actual physical dipstick? If not, I would leave the level sensor coding alone so you can still at least get an idea of what the oil level is. Fairly certain coding out that sensor codes out the level sensor as well...
 
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Yes it has a dipstick, and it gets checked regularly, at least every sunday evening and more often if the bonnet is up for screenwash etc. The warnings about not being a wise thing to do or whatever are my choice to make I guess, and I'm happy to take the decision if coding it out is actually possible until its oil change time and I can swap out the sensor.
 
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Per my fuzzy recollection when playing games with a 2010 NAR GTI years ago.. that's an Adaptation channel. Perhaps?

[*IDE00492-MAS02013*] ESI: Coding of Service Interval Extension (SIE) - TOG
Oil level thermal sensor not connected to instrument cluster
Oil level thermal sensor connected to instrument cluster​

Tweaking that from off to ON in my GTI resulted in a cool new oil can on the MFA but I didn't install the sensor so that got disabled quickly.

In your case, it'll likely mask the bing bong celebration on startup however I suspect the oil change strategy won't be correct. OTOH, if this is a temporary solution and you are going to replace it and lose all of you oil, resulting in an oil change, I suppose resetting the SRI when the new sensor is fitted may resolve any long-term oil strategy concerns?

Also - please see this http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/B1041

Since your Yeti is Mk6 based the Damaged TOG wiring doc may be applicable?
 
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Many thanks Dana. Some work for this weekend I think.
 
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Indeed, the adaption channel ESI: Coding of Service Interval Extension (SIE) - TOG has removed the infernal bong and flashing light.I'll have an investigation of the wiring issue this weekend, and maybe just plug the new sensor in first without draining the oil and replacing it. If the fault is fixed then swap the sensor, if the fault remains then investigate the wiring.
 
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Curiously, since removing the thermal sensor from the instruments, the oil temperature readout in the MFD is now correct whereas before it was stuck on 79°c.
 
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Neat. I'm ASSuming there isn't another oil temp input, and if so, I wonder if the cluster using using a filler value or default strategy? Similar to unplugging a MAF sensor and watching that MVB show "live" MAF data raise and lower as you rev the engine .. could the fallback/filler oil temp value may be ECT based in this case?
 
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Afaik there's only the one thermal sensor. Maybe the instrument cluster is now not seeing a fault and the sensor is in fact working correctly. Or given that the fault has been there since I got the car some months ago, maybe someone played with the adaption settings and erroneously added the fault. I have a Tiguan with the same engine, I'll try and see the adaption values on that over the weekend.
 
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