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Thread: Golf 6 MK6 Xenon to Halogen *Help pls*

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    Golf 6 MK6 Xenon to Halogen *Help pls*

    Hi everyone,

    I am new to the Vag Com world, at least to this level of depth, and am pretty impressed with the support on these topics.

    I am using our car clubís cable to configure my Osram Xenarc LED headlights on my 2010 GTI. Iíve browsed the forums and found one thread that was probably the most help so far, but since I am new to this I think Iíll need some more help haha

    So here we go. I have a 2010 GTI that came stock with Xenon and AFS. I owned a 2.5 with Halogens before and had purchased a set of the Osram Xenarc LEDs (https://www.osram.com/ecat/LEDriving...t/ZMP_4055174/) that were plug and play for the Halogen car. Now I think you know where this is going haha
    The headlights are a 10pin and the xenon harness is a 14pin connector. We managed to make our own reverse harness and everything, well almost everything, is working. The issue at this point is that the controls are not working 100%, low beams are always on, canít control DRLs separately.

    I am guessing that disconnecting the gateway and removing it in the settings as outlined in this post https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...+xenon+halogen could work but figured Iíd check in here for advice.


    I do have the LED tails, I think there might be some settings I need to consider as well. I will be able to post the scan this week as soon as I get it off the laptop (forgot to do it) and will post it here. Wanted to start the conversation anyway 😀

    Let me know if you need anything else and thanks in advance!

    -Seb

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    Hi Seb

    If you've made your own harness, are using lights that we have no idea what the pins represent and are retrofitting a non VW part, then collectively this spells trouble. It's impossible for anyone to help. This is a project that someone would have to undertake to be able to assist. In this forum we recommend the use of factory wiring diagrams and retrofit genuine parts. Third party parts are not supported I'm afraid.

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    Hi there!

    Well the Osram (OEM parts provider) headlights have the exact same connectors/pins as the OEM housing. Hence why a simple reverse harness from a 14 pin car to a 10 pin housing worked just fine. This is the exact same scenario that I linked to in this thread - Xenon car to halogen headlights. Everything is working, high beams, low beams, DRLs, signals with NO coding at all. All I am trying to figure out is what base coding I should be using to tell the car that Halogen headlights are installed so that the low beams arenít staying on all the time.

    I really hope the community can point out some options that we can explore. Pls help...

    Thanks in advance!

    -Seb

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    Is there a way to post a picture? I have the wiring diagram that we used. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the.seabass View Post
    Is there a way to post a picture? I have the wiring diagram that we used. Thanks!
    Please see: How to Post Pictures.

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    Great, thank you @Uwe!

    @myonous Here is the wiring diagram we used to build the harness:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FMx...ew?usp=sharing

    Hope this helps

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    Hi

    There would likely be changes you would need to make to the adaptation channels. Are the low beams are staying on as DRL's? Can you please post an admap of 09 BCM.

    Thanks

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    Plus please post a VCDS Auto-Scan...

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    Sorry for the late response! Here we go:
    Code:
    Sunday,06,October,2019,14:58:02:03411
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWGV7AJ6AW408033   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 182000km-113089mi   Repair Order: Sebastian
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72 77
    
    VIN: WVWGV7AJ6AW408033   Mileage: 182000km-113089miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels:. 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 AM    HW: 1K0 907 115 AA
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030  
       Revision: AAH16---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0403010A18070160
       Shop #: WSC 00001 000 00000
       VCID: 71E25FCB68A449C766-8024
    
    1 Fault Found:
    008801 - Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249) 
                   P2261 - 000 - Mechanical Malfunction - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 196
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 179788 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.12.28
                        Time: 11:01:47
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 2141 /min
                        Load: 8.2 %
                        Speed: 78.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 63.0įC
                        Temperature: 21.0įC
                        Absolute Pres.: 890.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 14.224 V
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AH    HW: 1K0 907 379 AH
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H30 0107  
       Revision: 00H30001    
       Coding: 114B600C49220002880B06E7921C0041300800
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 78F462EFCBDE188FA1-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 BT    HW: 5K0 907 044 BT
       Component: Climatronic   H15 0709  
       Revision: 00003001    
       Coding: 0000000002
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01006
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
       VCID: 7EF874F7E1FA26BFEB-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 F    HW: 1K0 937 087 F
       Component: BCM PQ35  H   103 0575  
       Revision: 00103 AG    
       Coding: 6D180A1E90272AC40088008560000D0441051586534D8D60648020200000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 346C96DF97363CEF4D-8060
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 21041  21  0512 
       Coding: 009795
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 655 B    HW: 5K0 959 655 B
       Component: AirbagVW10G   021 0706  
       Serial number: 003C4R006X32  
       Coding: 00003042
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01012
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
       VCID: 3972A7EBB854C1879E-806C
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ---- 
       Serial number: 3572MSME2F760452ZZZY
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ---- 
       Serial number: 3582MSME53460452ZZZN
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 3512QSME1E4E5B07ZZZ4
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 3522QSME02305B15ZZZJ
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Component: F.Sens.Fahr  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 35527SME4E234421ZZZA
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Component: F.Sens.Beif  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 35627SME0E475721ZZZH
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CF    HW: 1K0 953 549 CF
       Component: J0527           056 0111  
       Coding: 0000532
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 78F462EF0BDE188FA1-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H05 0010  
       Coding: 00000130
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 5K6 920 870 D    HW: 5K6 920 870 D
       Component: KOMBI         H03 0305  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 370F00
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 346C96DF9F363CEF4D-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AD    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0112  
       Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 260410F2000951
       Coding: E9817F06001602000002
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 69D237AB4074B1072E-803C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 165
                        Mileage: 180965 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.04
                        Time: 15:04:18
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 919 879     HW: 5N0 919 879 
       Component: Kompass         001 0001  
       Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1225223R8PN206
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 7EF874F729FA26BFEB-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H03 0305  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03005
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6AD048A78D72BA1F27-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 B    HW: 5K0 959 701 B
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2113  
       Coding: 0001204
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 31629FCBA82409C726-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74     3001  
       Revision: 00H17000    
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 31629FCBA82409C726-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 D    HW: 5K0 959 702 D
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2139  
       Coding: 0001204
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 346C96DF57363CEF4D-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
       Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
       Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0142  
       Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 1446940
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 346C96DF57363CEF4D-8060
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: ID-L fehlt    Labels: ID-55-01.CLB
       Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    ....  
       Coding: 00000255
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: ID-R fehlt    Labels: ID-55-02.CLB
       Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    ....  
       Coding: 00000255
    
    6 Faults Found:
    02233 - Left Headlight Power Output Stage (J667) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Mileage: 182000 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.26
                        Time: 14:32:40
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 13.92 V
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                            ABS 1
    
    02234 - Right Headlight Power Output Stage (J668) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Mileage: 182000 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.26
                        Time: 14:32:40
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 13.92 V
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                            ABS 1
    
    01042 - Control Module; Not Coded 
                000 - - - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Invalid
                            Invalid
                            Invalid
    
    02656 - Power Output Stage for Left Headlight (J667); Not Coded 
                000 - - - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Invalid
                            Invalid
                            Invalid
    
    02657 - Power Output Stage for Right Headlight (J668); Not Coded 
                000 - - - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Invalid
                            Invalid
                            Invalid
    
    01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100101
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 164
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Invalid
                            Invalid
                            Invalid
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 AC    HW: 1K0 035 180 AC
       Component: Radio Prem-8  H10 0035  
       Revision: -----20S    Serial number: VWZ4Z7J1135286
       Coding: 2500040004
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 61C22F8B7844F947F6-8034
    
    6 Faults Found:
    00856 - Radio Antenna 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 165
                        Mileage: 178465 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.11.16
                        Time: 19:24:10
    
    00870 - Bass Speaker Front Left (R21) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 165
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.05
                        Time: 13:12:39
    
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 27
                        Mileage: 178465 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.11.16
                        Time: 19:24:10
    
    00871 - Bass Speaker Front Right (R23) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 165
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.05
                        Time: 13:12:39
    
    00872 - Bass Speaker Rear Left (R15) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 165
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.05
                        Time: 13:12:39
    
    00873 - Bass Speaker Rear Right (R17) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 165
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.05
                        Time: 13:12:39
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 C    HW: 5K0 959 703 C
       Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
       Coding: 0001168
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
       VCID: 346C96DF57363CEF4D-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 C    HW: 5K0 959 704 C
       Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
       Coding: 0001168
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
       VCID: 356AABDB5C4C25E77A-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J738)       Labels:. 1K8-035-730.clb
       Part No SW: 1K8 035 730 D    HW: 1K8 035 730 D
       Component: Telefon       H08 6900  
       Revision: 00008000    Serial number: 00000330873487
       Coding: 412100
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 2A5088A745F27A1FE7-807E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 165
                        Mileage: 181050 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.02.05
                        Time: 12:53:46
    
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:14)--------------------------
    Main thing thatís not working besides the AFS error messages are the low beams canĎt be turned off and DRLs can be controlled with auto headlight switch.

    Really appreciate the help!

    -Seb

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    If your new lights are "plug & play" with halogens, why do you still have a Xenon controller in the car?

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