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    Question 2009 VW Tiguan - No Start - Multiple Codes

    Good evening.

    I got a call from my wife the other day stating that her car wouldn't start. I immediately got off work and went to see what the situation was. After attempting to start it, to no avail, we had it towed home.
    I ran the following scan on it and saw the dreaded P0016 code populate, so there it sat as I have had zero time to work on it.

    Code:
    Tuesday,24,September,2019,19:13:56:06683
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    VIN: WVGAV75N59W503659   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 184910km-114897mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 5N (1K0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 65 72
    
    VIN: WVGAV75N59W503659   Mileage: 184910km-114897miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels:. 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
       Part No SW: 06J 906 026 G    HW: 06J 906 026 AF
       Component: MED17.5 TFSI 2,0    8217  
       Revision: AAH03---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NI11C
       Coding: 0423010A19070160
       Shop #: WSC 14112 002 1048576
       VCID: 2E06042ECC16E4C7685-807A
    
    3 Faults Found:
    008213 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1) 
                   P2015 - 000 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 163
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 180947 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 23:26:27
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 1020 /min
                        Load: 32.5 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 68.0C
                        Temperature: 39.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 13.462 V
    
    008213 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1) 
                   P2015 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 162
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 181039 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 09:17:03
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 2478 /min
                        Load: 43.1 %
                        Speed: 42.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 96.0C
                        Temperature: 25.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 13.843 V
    
    000022 - Bank 1: CMP Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28) 
                   P0016 - 000 - Incorrect Correlation - Intermittent - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 10100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 52
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 184361 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 06:32:21
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 1212 /min
                        Load: 28.6 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 73.0C
                        Temperature: 53.0C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 13.843 V
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
       Part No SW: 09G 927 750 KM    HW: 09G 927 750 KM
       Component: AQ 250 6F           1394  
       Revision: 00H76000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000840
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 06569C8E04268C87F05-8052
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-517.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 614 517 L    HW: 5N0 614 517 L
       Component: J104    C2 450 V2   0006  
       Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 00000001228087
       Coding: 0002329
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 3728214A334C250F3B3-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HR    HW: 1K0 820 047 HR
       Component: Climatic PQ35   142 1111  
       Revision: 00142031    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 7BA0FD7A4FE4C16F9FB-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 D    HW: 3C8 937 049 D
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008528988
       Coding: 108C0FA340041C0047190000140000000008F3475C400104390000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 323E105ED82EC0270CD-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 130608  012 0203  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 01287  
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 178
                        Mileage: 184912 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.20 V
                            OFF
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 B    HW: 5N0 959 655 B
       Component: J234__200 VW10 HI   1815  
       Revision: 19013000    Serial number: 0039EPAJ7Y6+  
       Coding: 0012336
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3C223E660A6A0657D61-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N0 959 339 A
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 001 0004
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000000S45
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0008.03.08000010000064003963
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6400396333FTS647731458 63
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 31458 6343FTS642541468 63
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 41468 6353ETS67KTLTVNP 63
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: LTVNP 6363ETS64DFLTVNH 63
    
       Subsystem 8 - Serial number: LTVNH 6373JTS6GVPCTVNH 63
    
       Subsystem 9 - Serial number: CTVNH 6383JTS6MBMCTVNH 
    
       Subsystem 10 - Serial number: CTVNH 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BF    HW: 1K0 953 549 BF
       Component: J0527           051 0101  
       Coding: 0010022
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 77A8E14A73CCE50FFB3-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 950 D    HW: 5N0 920 950 D
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1224  
       Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NI11C
       Coding: 0007204
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 303A1A56D622F2377A9-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0202  
       Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2700K0850506B4
       Coding: FD807F070002026002
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 35342B422940D71F29F-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 950 D    HW: 5N0 920 950 D
       Component: IMMO            VDD 1224  
       Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NI11C
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 303A1A56D622F2377A9-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 701     HW: 5N0 959 701 
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1205  
       Coding: 0001205
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 72BED05E18AE8027CCD-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 S    HW: 5N1 909 148 K
       Component: J500__APA-BS KL.285 1501  
       Revision: 1BH04843    Serial number: 00171300055601
       Coding: 0000258
       Shop #: WSC 46536 002 1048576
       VCID: 42DE409E688E70A79CD-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
       Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0222  
       Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 9380078852832C1B1B04058FB0880F0C88DCA0
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 04528686321ABE97EE1-8050
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00332 - Control Circuit for Tank Flap 
                007 - Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100111
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 254
                        Reset counter: 97
                        Mileage: 180947 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 22:57:31
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 702     HW: 5N0 959 702 
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1205  
       Coding: 0001204
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 73B0D55A67B4892FC7B-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 907 801 B    HW: 5N0 907 801 B
       Component: J540 EPB3  VW-09384 0005  
       Revision:   H08       Serial number: 00000000073967
       Coding: 0000057
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 2E06042ECC16E4C7685-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-161.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 161 D    HW: 1K0 035 161 D
       Component: Radio DE2       017 0021  
       Revision: 00017000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7H6345021
       Coding: 0040401
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 201AEA1686C242B7EA9-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 A    HW: 5N0 959 703 A
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
       Coding: 0001168
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 1012552
       VCID: 35342B422940D71F29F-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
       Component:    RDK              0450  
       Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0100101
       Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
       VCID: 04528686321ABE97EE1-8050
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 A    HW: 5N0 959 704 A
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
       Coding: 0001168
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 1012552
       VCID: 36362C4E3446DC07205-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 01:19, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.9V)-----

    I'm not super concerned about the intake flap position sensor, as I've changed that intake 3 times so far and after about a year or so it fails. I tend to believe that's not the problem.
    What worries me is the following:
    000022 - Bank 1: CMP Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
    P0016 - 000 - Incorrect Correlation - Intermittent - MIL ON

    I know this engine has a tendency to throw the timing chain, but would that cause a no-start so abruptly. She claims the car was running fine before that and wasn't exhibiting any issues. The only idiot light that came on was the check engine, but that has been on for a while according to her, however, she didn't tell me because "she thought it was ok and just needed an oil change". Yeah ok, thanks, woman.

    Anyway, wondering if any of you suspect anything else from this scan, aside from the infamous chain tensioner issues. If that is the problem, we will likely be getting rid of the car and moving on, as I don't have the capacity to fix it right now.

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    Have you checked for useful life warranty, reimbursement for your aforementioned issues you stated and the JPPSG yet?
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    Compression check?

    Sump conditions?

    Fuel injectors?

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    I'm not sure what the useful life warranty is, but I did check with VWGOA for any recalls and extended warranties I may be missing. I spoke to a representative via chat who confirmed that the vehicle is out of warranty due to being at 114k miles and being just over 10 years old. With that said, we will likely not receive any reimbursement through VW.

    Thank you for the helpful link to your guide. I will go through what's been done and provide a little background, using your guide as a reference.

    Info from your guide including my answers. Apologies if this isn't what you are looking for.

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    VW / Tiguan / 2009 / S.

    Step 1 Tag of PR-Build data picture posted
    WVGAV75N59W503659

    Step 2 Status of car stock or modified in any way? If so list!
    Car is stock

    Step 3 "VCDS" COMPLETE Auto-Scan in code tags!
    Code:
    Tuesday,24,September,2019,19:13:56:06683
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVGAV75N59W503659   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 184910km-114897mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 5N (1K0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 65 72
    
    VIN: WVGAV75N59W503659   Mileage: 184910km-114897miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels:. 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
       Part No SW: 06J 906 026 G    HW: 06J 906 026 AF
       Component: MED17.5 TFSI 2,0    8217  
       Revision: AAH03---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NI11C
       Coding: 0423010A19070160
       Shop #: WSC 14112 002 1048576
       VCID: 2E06042ECC16E4C7685-807A
    
    3 Faults Found:
    008213 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1) 
                   P2015 - 000 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 163
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 180947 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 23:26:27
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 1020 /min
                        Load: 32.5 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 68.0°C
                        Temperature: 39.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 13.462 V
    
    008213 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1) 
                   P2015 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 162
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 181039 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 09:17:03
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 2478 /min
                        Load: 43.1 %
                        Speed: 42.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 96.0°C
                        Temperature: 25.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 13.843 V
    
    000022 - Bank 1: CMP Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28) 
                   P0016 - 000 - Incorrect Correlation - Intermittent - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 10100000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 52
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 184361 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 06:32:21
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 1212 /min
                        Load: 28.6 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 73.0°C
                        Temperature: 53.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 13.843 V
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
       Part No SW: 09G 927 750 KM    HW: 09G 927 750 KM
       Component: AQ 250 6F           1394  
       Revision: 00H76000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000840
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 06569C8E04268C87F05-8052
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-517.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 614 517 L    HW: 5N0 614 517 L
       Component: J104    C2 450 V2   0006  
       Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 00000001228087
       Coding: 0002329
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 3728214A334C250F3B3-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HR    HW: 1K0 820 047 HR
       Component: Climatic PQ35   142 1111  
       Revision: 00142031    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 7BA0FD7A4FE4C16F9FB-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 D    HW: 3C8 937 049 D
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008528988
       Coding: 108C0FA340041C0047190000140000000008F3475C400104390000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 323E105ED82EC0270CD-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 130608  012 0203  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 01287  
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 178
                        Mileage: 184912 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            OFF
                        Voltage: 12.20 V
                            OFF
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 B    HW: 5N0 959 655 B
       Component: J234__200 VW10 HI   1815  
       Revision: 19013000    Serial number: 0039EPAJ7Y6+  
       Coding: 0012336
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3C223E660A6A0657D61-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N0 959 339 A
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 001 0004
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000000S45
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0008.03.080000100000640039ÿ†63
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 640039ÿ†6333FTS647731458 ÿ†63
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 31458 ÿ†6343FTS642541468 ÿ†63
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 41468 ÿ†6353ETS67KTLTVNP ÿ†63
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: LTVNP ÿ†6363ETS64DFLTVNH ÿ†63
    
       Subsystem 8 - Serial number: LTVNH ÿ†6373JTS6GVPCTVNH ÿ†63
    
       Subsystem 9 - Serial number: CTVNH ÿ†6383JTS6MBMCTVNH ÿ
    
       Subsystem 10 - Serial number: CTVNH ÿ
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BF    HW: 1K0 953 549 BF
       Component: J0527           051 0101  
       Coding: 0010022
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 77A8E14A73CCE50FFB3-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 950 D    HW: 5N0 920 950 D
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1224  
       Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NI11C
       Coding: 0007204
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 303A1A56D622F2377A9-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0202  
       Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2700K0850506B4
       Coding: FD807F070002026002
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 35342B422940D71F29F-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 950 D    HW: 5N0 920 950 D
       Component: IMMO            VDD 1224  
       Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NI11C
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 303A1A56D622F2377A9-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 701     HW: 5N0 959 701 
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1205  
       Coding: 0001205
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 72BED05E18AE8027CCD-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 S    HW: 5N1 909 148 K
       Component: J500__APA-BS KL.285 1501  
       Revision: 1BH04843    Serial number: 00171300055601
       Coding: 0000258
       Shop #: WSC 46536 002 1048576
       VCID: 42DE409E688E70A79CD-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
       Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0222  
       Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 9380078852832C1B1B04058FB0880F0C88DCA0
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 04528686321ABE97EE1-8050
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00332 - Control Circuit for Tank Flap 
                007 - Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100111
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 254
                        Reset counter: 97
                        Mileage: 180947 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 22:57:31
    
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 702     HW: 5N0 959 702 
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1205  
       Coding: 0001204
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
       VCID: 73B0D55A67B4892FC7B-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 907 801 B    HW: 5N0 907 801 B
       Component: J540 EPB3  VW-09384 0005  
       Revision:   H08       Serial number: 00000000073967
       Coding: 0000057
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 2E06042ECC16E4C7685-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-161.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 161 D    HW: 1K0 035 161 D
       Component: Radio DE2       017 0021  
       Revision: 00017000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7H6345021
       Coding: 0040401
       Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
       VCID: 201AEA1686C242B7EA9-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 A    HW: 5N0 959 703 A
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
       Coding: 0001168
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 1012552
       VCID: 35342B422940D71F29F-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
       Component:    RDK              0450  
       Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0100101
       Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
       VCID: 04528686321ABE97EE1-8050
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 A    HW: 5N0 959 704 A
       Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
       Coding: 0001168
       Shop #: WSC 01287 785 1012552
       VCID: 36362C4E3446DC07205-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 01:19, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.9V)-----
    Step 4 Describe recent repairs or services, problem at hand, & attempts at repair.
    Recent repairs include water pump repair replacement on 4/2019, intake manifold replacement 12/2018

    Step 5 Are parts OEM or AFT? If so, "what", and what origin?
    All parts are OEM

    Step 6 Identify specific issues to be addressed/concerned about, or say ALL.
    The specific and immediate issue is the no-start and the following code found in the scan:
    Code:
    000022 - Bank 1: CMP Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28) P0016 - 000 - Incorrect Correlation - Intermittent - MIL ON
    Step 7 Now that you jumped through the first few hoops of fire, did you check the FUSES/Battery connections?
    The battery connection is good. The fuses and relays have not been checked yet.


    I have a solid understanding of mechanics, as I was an aircraft mechanic and work on the majority of my vehicles. With that said, I am by no means a VW tech and the system is fairly new to me.

    Current symptoms are no start. I haven't been able to perform a compression test. I pulled the coils and there is no oil on them. I checked to make sure the camshaft position sensor was plugged in and the wires were not damaged, but I haven't checked for any of the electrical systems as of yet. I have not been into the engine as of yet to know if there is FOD, and I didn't see anything in the oil that looks troubling

    I am assuming my first step will be to check electrical systems, and then move to fuel. Would the be accurate?

    Depending on the complexity of the work and cost of parts I will either be doing the work myself or selling the vehicle as parts.

    I have downloaded all PDF's from VW relating to the Tiguan and have them at my disposal.

    I do know how to read schematics

    The VCDS firmware was having issues updating upon initially plugging the dongle into the vehicle, but they seemed to resolve themselves after several restarts.

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    Low and behold, it was Barbra Streisand!

    Just kidding.

    I haven't performed a compression check yet and there doesn't appear to be any metallic particles in the oil. I haven't checked the injectors either, as I haven't pulled the intake.

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    I would not bother to check electrical yet... Do mechanical tests.. Compression and / or timing check. With this engine and known chain issues you're most likely looking @ tensioner failure.

    Have you had the upgraded chain tensioner put in? Not that it really matters TBH. Intake manifold is not your starting issue.

    My money is on tensioner failed, timing out and contact has been made with pistons. Not uncommon for them to be perfectly OK and then next minute no compression, no start. Worst one I've had was 75,000KM MK6 GTI stopped on highway no warnings... All valves hit so hard they bent into cylinder head......

    Compression check and/or timing check will confirm. Goodluck.

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    Did you know that every once and a while we see a plugged CAT & can cause the car to not run and have the correlation DTC's too?
    Are not firmware updates required for this car that imply a defect resulting in a worthy NHTSA inquiry for safety under the Fast Act or even EPA for failing to comport with CAA as an ADR?

    Did you know that it looks like someone negated their Responsibility's on the OEM and did you know that load requests matter with firmware updates for aforementioned torque requests; that are also MIL related when said updates are not done to compliment the transmission & that a TCU can set or be vicariously responsible for such conditions or setting the MIL inducing mechanical defect in engine or power train?

    Splendid isn't it?
    Pardon me but have you been here?

    https://literature.vw.com/calibration_lookup.asp

    Calibration Data Lookup

    Test Group:
    Module CAL ID CVN Engine Code Test Group
    TCM 09G 927 750 GG 1702 01C6965F 9ADXV02.03UA
    TCM 09G 927 750 KM 1703 7289DEDD 9ADXV02.03UA
    TCM 09G 927 750 KN 1704 2C640E62 9ADXV02.03UA
    TCM 09G 927 750 KM 2191 E5846266 9VWXJ02.0UA
    TCM 09G 927 750 KM 2191 E5846266 9VWXJ02.0UA

    Or here?

    https://vag-flashinfo.de/index.php?p...927+750+KM&as=


    Are you sure you don't want to demand your MTV or free repair and point out this lack of attention of the OEM's own work steps for a free engine?
    Did you read the entire JPPSG thread?


    Don't you make me get a unilateral conformity application.

    Doesn't this sound like a negated recall or campaign now and safety recalls are 15/150k so don't you have a valid argument to litigate, someone to 187?
    "one-eighty-seven"

    Don't you have a job to do?

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    Thanks for the suggestion. I don't currently have a compression gauge, but will be getting one at the store this weekend to see if there are any compression issues and will update the thread after that. I guess the path I was taking was, test things that don't require money first, since we are on a single income right now. Trying to budget this as appropriate and take the path of least resistance first. My methodology is likely flawed, however
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    Wouldn't a free repair or possible reimbursement with consistent valid documentation compiled, be the right action along with what you aforementioned?

    Don't you have a job to do?

    Did you know campaigns and recalls or useful life expectations are reimbursable, along with the cost of diagnosis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The One View Post
    I would not bother to check electrical yet... Do mechanical tests.. Compression and / or timing check. With this engine and known chain issues you're most likely looking @ tensioner failure.

    Have you had the upgraded chain tensioner put in? Not that it really matters TBH. Intake manifold is not your starting issue.

    My money is on tensioner failed, timing out and contact has been made with pistons. Not uncommon for them to be perfectly OK and then next minute no compression, no start. Worst one I've had was 75,000KM MK6 GTI stopped on highway no warnings... All valves hit so hard they bent into cylinder head......

    Compression check and/or timing check will confirm. Goodluck.
    Thanks for the suggestion. I don't currently have a compression gauge, but will be getting one at the store this weekend to see if there are any compression issues and will update the thread after that. I guess the path I was taking was, test things that don't require money first, since we are on a single income right now. Trying to budget this as appropriate and take the path of least resistance first. My methodology is likely flawed, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Wouldn't a free repair or possible reimbursement with consistent valid documentation compiled, be the right action along with what you aforementioned?
    Thank you for the suggestion Jack. I wasn't aware that safety recalls and litigation were valid for vehicles with 15y / 150k. I will definitely do some research on that and see how it goes. To have this fixed on VW's dime would be ideal, as in my eyes its gross negligence with the engineering of the 2.0 tsi. Every class action I have read seems to point to a 10 year 100k limitation, which in today's age seems quite low for such an ever present problem in this engine.

    I truly appreciate the assistance thus far, and all the excellent resources you have been providing, even if I only comprehend 1/2 of the acronyms.

    As for the JPPSG thread, I only read the first page as I was trying to post the reply. I will scour it deeper to see what kind of information I can acquire.

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