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    2011 Amarok retrofitted with Polo 7 MFSW with CC

    Hi Everyone

    So I decided to start a new thread for this since I could find exact answers elsewhere.

    I have retrofitted a polo 7 MFSW to my 2011 amarok. It originally came without a mfsw.
    So I added two wires from my slipring, added a wire in pos 9, to 12v+, and added a wire in pos 10 to LIN in the BCM, these were added in the steering column plug. I picked up the lin wire running to the driver side doors as the BCM is just tucked to far away to reach.

    I selected the option in the central electronics long coding and everything on the steering wheel works.
    I tried to activate the steering wheel in the CAN Gateway, because if I can get into the steering wheel control module I should hopefulle be able to change its coding to select the cruise control to work from the steering wheel... But it doesn't pick it up if I select it in the CAN gateway.
    What I did notice was that if I try to pick it up in the CAN gateway as a seperate module then the buttons doesn't work anymore. If I deselect it then it works again.

    Can I get this steering wheel to come up as a seperate control module and not a slave to the BCM? Or is there some other way that I can get the CC to work from the steering wheel?

    I hope the auto scan displays as it should...
    Thanks

    Code:
    Thursday,19,September,2019,23:17:19:02456
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2HZB8013874   License Plate: CY233167-MFSW
    Mileage: 236500km-146954mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 2H-VN81 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 22 25 32 56 69
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2HZB8013874   Mileage: 236500km-146954miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    32-Differential Locks -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CDCA)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 022 SL    HW: 03L 907 309 K
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H33 9743  
       Revision: 26H33---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 01190012232600080000
       Shop #: WSC 03461 996 81754
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906022SL 002012
       ROD: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019G_002.rod
       VCID: 814AEB1C1000124716-80D4
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 2H0-907-37x-ESP.clb
       Part No SW: 2H0 907 379 F    HW: 2H0 907 379 D
       Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0104  
       Revision: 00H43001    
       Coding: C07324B69295039824AA49AAAF5410
       Shop #: WSC 00000 059 49152
       VCID: B32671D4123C70D7D4-80E6
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 7E5-907-040.clb
       Part No SW: 2H0 907 040 A    HW: 2H0 907 040 A
       Component: ClimatronicT5 H10 0101  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 0000001002
       Shop #: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimatronicT5 A01002
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoT5Basis.rod
       VCID: 9F0E8D6486B4C4B700-80CA
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 6R7 937 087 B    HW: 6R7 937 087 B
       Component: PQ25 BCM      H10 0015  
       Revision: -1------    Serial number: 1002307800    
       Coding: 3D0002380C530400803806C03C4A14C4B08041FE600000003000
       Shop #: WSC 37317 001 104857
       VCID: C3C62114429CC05744-8096
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 M    HW: 6R0 959 802 M  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 3321 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 110000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 P    HW: 6R0 959 801 P  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 3321 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 110000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 A    HW: 6C0 959 442 A
       Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023 
       Serial number: 2511619021502088AD1B
       Coding: 280000
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 D    HW: 6R0 959 811 D
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  002 3321 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 100000
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 D    HW: 6R0 959 812 D
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  002 3321 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 100000
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 2H0 959 655     HW: 2H0 959 655 
       Component: VW10Airbag017 H05 0011  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003DQ000EKXN
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003137
       Shop #: WSC 07456 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01001
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
       VCID: F1AABBDC20A002C7E6-80A4
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3495RRB404T6NG4AH91.
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3505RRB405N6DUG6DH1/
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3555YRB40516N1H84G9C
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3565YRB404V6NG4A5H73
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 2H0 920 853     HW: 2H0 920 853 
       Component: KOMBI         H09 0206  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 150A00
       Shop #: WSC 99999 102 209715
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: E582DF8CE468DE678A-80B0
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R7 937 087 B
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0015  
       Revision: -1------    
       Coding: 742300
       Shop #: WSC 37317 001 104857
       VCID: F0ACBED823AA0BCFE9-80A4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 2H0 927 755 B    HW: 2H0 927 755 B
       Component: SG offroad VTG      0153  
       Revision: 00H06000    Serial number: T1IRB0950DPX67
       Coding: 0000013
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       VCID: AF2E7DA43E145437B0-80FA
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H09 0206  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03006
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: EA98ACB00D76F11FA7-80BE
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 32: Differential Locks (J647)       Labels:* 2H0-927-771.clb
       Part No SW: 2H0 927 771     HW: 2H0 927 771 
       Component: Quersperre    H04 0014  
       Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 4DG 21.05.10 00
       Coding: 000001
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_QuersUDSAAMVN817 A01005
       ROD: EV_QuersUDSAAMVN817.rod
       VCID: EB96A9B4028CE817DC-80BE
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
       Component: Radio         541 5516  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4H6279370
       Coding: 00000440040000
       Shop #: WSC 127395 840 08317
       VCID: C6C0380071AEF57F63-8092
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
       Component: Anhaenger     H07 0100  
       Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 00000131405793
       Coding: 0100000100000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: B02C7ED8E32A4BCFA9-80E4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 00:53, VBatt start/end: 11.7V/11.7V. VIgn 11.7V)-----

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    Ok, sorry for starting to answer my own questions... Figure out that I can change the coding on the slave modules...
    And figured that 6C0 959 442 A under the BCM is my steering wheel...
    But now I need to figure out what coding I need to use to enable the cruise control via the steering wheel...

    Anyone with a autoscan on their newish vw that has got cc on the steering wheel??

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    Picked up something else.
    So the steering wheel controls, except for the cruise control, works fine, until I use the buttons on the stalk to scroll the mfd where after the steering wheel buttons for the mfd won't work anymore until I shut off the car and turn it on again.

    Still can't get the steering wheel cruise control to work however. I checked the wiring diagrams and it appears that the BCM on the amarok get actual wires for the different cruise control demands. Might make it more difficult to move to the steering wheel, unless a signla from the switch cancels out the steering wheel controls similar to the other stalk and steering wheel buttons does.

    Another difference is that the old cruise control has a permanent on switch which constantly closes a contact to the BCM, the new one is a signal from the steeringwheel rather than a permanent signal I think. Wondering if this is only compatible with newer BCMs and instrument clusters? I know the newer clusters will show you when the cruise is on vs active, mine only shows when it's active and not when it's on but inactive...

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    Hello,

    I won't be able to provide much assistance here but this vehicle cannot show MFSW functions under address 16. Instead, that's a slave of BCM/J519 as you mentioned:

    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 A HW: 6C0 959 442 A
    Component: E221__MFL-TAT H06 0023
    Serial number: 2511619021502088AD1B
    Coding: 280000

    This is due to the vehicle platform rather than VCDS.

    It is entirely possible that there's a more serious conflict preventing this form working but in my experience adding a MFSW and leaving the old MFA stalk installed can cause issues. Hopefully someone else can chime in here but I think you will need to either replace the stalk with a plain one (i.e. one that would be installed on a non MFA car) or isolate the wiring to/from those old stalk functions. Doing so may not get you any closer to functional CCS via the new wheel.

    iichel may be able to recommend E221 slave coding based on some of his retrofit experience .. but this thread pointed out some of the discrepancies that could be relevant https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...-cancel-switch

    We will report back if anyone at RT has solid suggestions or advice.

    In the meanwhile, we have a customer (enthusiast that may be joining the forum) with engine issues related to turbo adjustment after a new WG was installed. If you happen to have time to run both ken on, engine off -and- engine at idle Measuring value function blockmaps on address 01 it would be highly appreciated. Mapping is explained here and those CSV files can be opened with Notepad and pasted to forum like this example.

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    This generation ECU doesn't support cruise from MFSW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfi_vend View Post
    This generation ECU doesn't support cruise from MFSW.
    support.....but after ecu dump modyfication
    already done and confirmed is 100% working, even with ACC
    HOT HOT HOT VW Touran 2005 with ACC HOT HOT HOT

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