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    Cascade a electrical failures fixed but now no steering angle signal

    I have been working on this 2006 jetta for years. No one has been able to figure it out and more than one shop gave up on it.
    Started out with the a/c stopping then mins later the heater fan would quit.
    At time progressed more and more items would shut down. After swapping out many different parts I have narrowed the issue down to the steering control module.
    I tried a known good one with no change. Changed out the complete steering column with a known good one and low and behold problem is solved.
    I put the original steering control module on the newly installed column and issues returned. Yet the known good steering control module tried on the old column didnt fix the issues. Strange.
    Anyhow the new known good column in in the car and the cascade of electrical issues is gone. But I have a new issue.
    The transmission doesnt like the new column. Vcds says missing steering angle signal so the trans starts the dash flashing the PND123 indicator and the trans goes out of gear into I assume neutral.
    What do I have to do to get the steering angle signal back??

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    first thing to do is always to post an autoscan
    Last edited by Uwe; 09-19-2019 at 09:41 AM. Reason: Addded link
    my Golf came out of the factory with 13 ECUs. now she has 20. and counting

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    No one has any input on this issue?
    Matt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowback View Post
    No one has any input on this issue?
    Chances that someone might have input would be higher if you'd post an Auto-Scan as suggested in post #2.

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    omg this has been a massive effort to get this auto scan
    laptop i used with the vcds craps out the moment i tried to update the vcds . hard drive failed
    setup another old paltop that i had which wasnt easy because it lost networking completely but i got it done
    put txt on a memory card went to my desk top and boom wifi adapter decided to die. its like the gods didnt want me to post this.
    but here it is hope someone can help after all this.

    Code:
    Tuesday,10,December,2019,14:26:50:59579
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.0
    Data version: 20190930 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: 3VWGT81K06M058178   License Plate: JETTA
    Mileage: 258380km-160549mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D
    
    VIN: 3VWGT81K06M058178   Mileage: 258380km-160549miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
       Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AC    HW: 028 101 223 9
       Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000DG  7551  
       Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4544963
       Coding: 0050078
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 64CDB5F1A7B3046F23-8030
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
       Part No SW: 02E 300 043     HW: 02E 927 770 AE
       Component: GSG DSG         070 1126  
       Revision: 04507000    Serial number: 00000607070561
       Coding: 0000020
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 51A36C25C80181C778-8004
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
       Coding: 0021122
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 73EFC6AD125D93D7AA-8026
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 907 379 AC
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
       Part No: 1K0 820 047 FJ
       Component: Climatic PQ35   120 0606  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 71E3CCA56841A1C758-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D    HW: 3C0 937 049 D
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
       Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000000335953
       Coding: 10018E234004150000140000001400000008730B5C
       Shop #: WSC 91590 999 58568
       VCID: 2A511BC98517921FD9-807E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 270906 020  0501  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 91590  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
       Component: 6C AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
       Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D05WCD9  
       Coding: 0013891
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 6CDDDDD14F634C2F6B-8038
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME121A7E74H
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME1251677FG
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME0A591B3BH
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME0A6362566
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63727SME0A565251.
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63827SME0A5F12510
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AJ    HW: 1K0 953 549 AJ
       Component: J0527           034 0070  
       Coding: 0011021
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 7AF1EB893537E29FE9-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 920 853 K    HW: 1K0 920 853 K
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1610  
       Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4544963
       Coding: 0023303
       Shop #: WSC 91590 999 52559
       VCID: 326103A9ADC7DADF61-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533__Gateway   H12 0150  
       Revision:   H12       Serial number: 31001068020403
       Coding: 3F3F0B4007001002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 2C5D1DD18FE38C2F2B-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 920 853 K    HW: 1K0 920 853 K
       Component: IMMO            3HL 1610  
       Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4544963
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 326103A9ADC7DADF61-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 P    HW: 1K0 959 793 L
       Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1127  
       Revision: 12007001    Serial number: 00000584968925
       Coding: 0001205
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3B7F2E8D7A8D1B97B2-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: None
       VCID: 55AB9835BCE9EDE7A4-FFFE
    
    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error occurred
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CA    HW: 1K0 959 433 CA
       Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0202  
       Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 1F900F880106083F0D040F8FB0880F0488FCA0
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
       VCID: 71E3CCA56841A1C758-8024
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 P    HW: 1K0 959 792 L
       Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1127  
       Revision: 12007001    Serial number: 00000563068925
       Coding: 0001204
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3C7D2D917F831CAFBB-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-161.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 161 B    HW: 1K0 035 161 B
       Component: Radio DE2       014 0017  
       Revision: 00014000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7F6166885
       Coding: 0040401
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 1E39C719C95F6EBFB5-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 Q    HW: 1K0 959 795 J
       Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1115  
       Revision: 12004001    Serial number: 00000000298069
       Coding: 0001168
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3E792799699F0EBF95-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 Q    HW: 1K0 959 794 J
       Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1115  
       Revision: 12005001    Serial number: 00000000369924
       Coding: 0001168
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3F875A9D6E9507B79E-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
       Component: PTC-Element         0404  
       Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2D5B10D5B4F985273C-8078
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35) 
                014 - Defective
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:57)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 12-11-2019 at 11:10 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Did you know the steering 0x44 is offline and is the rack itself?

    Did you check fuses and wires to the rack yet and all communication wiring using RTFB and WD?

    Did you JPPSG yet?
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    as i said above. car would have a cascade of electrical failures
    tried 3 different steering control modules on the column that came with the car cascade of failures persisted
    changed out the complete column with a known working one. cascade of failures is now gone
    tried the old steering control module on the new column and cascade of failures returns.
    with the old module on the new column the steering angle sensing is working but electrical items start to cascade fail
    put the module that was with this new column back on cascade of failures stops but no steering angle sensing

    i have adapted the steering wheel controls out ( new column has steering wheel controls old didnt) made no difference still no sensing
    wire to the module is good ends were all replaced with the gold connections.

    i need to know how to adapt what ever the difference is between the 2 steering control modules
    i cant read the old one because it immediately starts to have failures
    i am sure its a coding issue just not sure how to go about coding i guess.
    oh and i checked compatibility of the steering control modules with the 2 vin numbers with the dealer and its the same part number for both

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    looking closer at the auto scan its looking like something maybe needs to be adapted in the abs to get this different steering control module to work with it?

    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
    Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
    Coding: 0021122
    Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
    VCID: 73EFC6AD125D93D7AA-8026

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 907 379 AC
    Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101

    2 Faults Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
    004 - No Signal/Communication


    wiki says:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85): No Signal/Communication

    Possible Causes
    Steering Angle Sensor (G85) faulty
    Steering Angle Sensor (G85) configured incorrectly due to replacement control modules or incorrect coding
    Buggy ABS controller software

    Possible Solutions
    Check Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    Check Steering Angle Sensor (G85) location and configuration on the vehicle in question
    Check ABS controller software per TPIs, TSBs and recall publications .
    Last edited by Nowback; 12-10-2019 at 11:52 PM. Reason: added info

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    Not the steering column, the "steering rack" & with combined pump 0x44 are you not paying attention, it costs nothing to do the dirty dishes to clean up with Cascade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Not the steering column, the "steering rack" & with combined pump 0x44 are you not paying attention, it costs nothing to do the dirty dishes to clean up with Cascade?
    so why with the column that came with the car do i get steering angle sensing and everything works fine until the issue with the steering control module causes things like the power
    windows , heater, wipers, .... to stop working.

    the replacement column everything works nothings starts to fail but i am now missing steering angle sensing?
    matt

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