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    Golf Mk 7 DSG Trouble

    Hi guys,

    i'm used to check measuringblocks 95-115 to check the condition of clutch 1 and 2 of the dsg gearbox.
    Can u tell me how to check the condition of clutch 1 and 2 using measuringblocks on this golf 7 it uses a different protocol?

    The problem with this car is that it doesn't shift smooth, it slams into 1st and Reverse.
    After a basic setting, it drives/shifts like it's supposed to.
    when i let it sit a coupple of days, it shifts rough again.

    i have been told that there is a TPI for the code i have ( P189A) i cant find it..
    I'm suspecting the clutch, that's why i want to check te condition using the measuringblocks

    Thnx

    Code:
    Tuesday,17,September,2019,10:19:07:64070
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZFP574488   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 155021km-96325mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 44 52 5F
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZFP574488   Mileage: 155021km-96325miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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    Address 01: Engine (J623-CJZA)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 016 A    HW: 04E 907 309 A
       Component: 1.2l R4 TSI   H10 7697  
       Revision: WAH10---    
       Coding: 01250032232405082000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00074
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016A 001008
       ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016A.rod
       VCID: 20191D366A4C4767EA9-8074
    
    1 Fault Found:
    5604 - Park/Neutral Switch Input Circuit 
              P0850 00 [032] - Open or Short to Plus
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 155020 km
                        Date: 2019.09.16
                        Time: 15:57:31
    
                        Engine speed: 873.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 32.9 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 35 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 27 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1020 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 14.277 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Brake actuated status-Bits 0-7: 3
                        Selector lever position-Bits 0-7: 8
                        Engine status: COENG_RUNNING
                        Engine status-Test_Program_Co Eng st COMPU VERB UBYTE: 3
    
    Readiness: 0110 0001
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0CW-927-769.clb
       Part No SW: 0CW 300 047 D    HW: 0AM 927 769 K
       Component: GSG DQ200-MQB H43 5203  
       Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501411065326
       Coding: 0014
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
       ROD: EV_TCMDQ200021_VW31.rod
       VCID: 3C21C946E6E40387D61-8068
    
    1 Fault Found:
    10817 - Clutch 1 
              P189A 00 [072] - Clearance too Small
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 155020 km
                        Date: 2019.09.16
                        Time: 15:58:15
    
                        Engine speed: 5126.00 /min
                        Engine torque: -100 Nm
                        Vehicle speed: 72 km/h
                        Control Module temperature: 91 °C
                        CURRENT pressure: -9.5 bar
                        Clutch: primary stat: Anfahren - Gangwechsel
                        selected gear: GANG_6
                        Driving position: N
                        Accelerator position: 0.0 %
                        DTC memory status: 47616
    
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 F    HW: 3Q0 907 379 F
       Component: ESC           H42 0609  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 63174000003171
       Coding: 04FA6AA114271170077B060841CB2520562888E06082A4F300220078C202
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 034027
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_034_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3D27C442FDFE0A8FE1F-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 044 BD    HW: 5G0 907 044 BD
       Component: Climatronic   H03 1001  
       Revision: 00001K08    
       Coding: 02020004200100011005000000101000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 003018
       ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_003_VW37.rod
       VCID: 6A8D3F1EDCF04D3774D-803E
    
       Fresh Air Blower Front: 
    
       Geber für Kältemitteldruck/Kältemitteltemperatur: 
    
       Air quality sensor: 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 086 AD    HW: 5Q0 937 086 AD
       Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 028 0145  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 86580611140255
       Coding: 00001846C24102FB4BE44080B10403081000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 014004
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_014.rod
       VCID: 7CA10946A664C387961-8028
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A    HW: 5G1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    141027  043 0551 
       Serial number:         141108074854
       Coding: 0E4DDD
    
       Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 A    HW: 5Q0 955 547 A  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
       Component: RLHS  037 0059 
       Serial number: S5Y14M11D20H08M01S47
       Coding: 00A8DD
    
       Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
       Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0315 
       Serial number: 000000000ZY142741A3Z
    
       Alarm horn: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
       Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
       Serial number: 00000000000061015905
    
       Relative Air Humidity Interior Sender: 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    204290 - Remote key 1 
              B1479 18 [009] - Current Too Low
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 118
                        Mileage: 155020 km
                        Date: 2019.09.16
                        Time: 15:00:23
    
    
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 E    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0048  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 39331431103932
       Coding: 0031151011
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002024
       ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_002_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3D27C442FDFE0A8FE1F-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 AA    HW: 5Q0 959 655 AA
       Component: AirbagVW20    014 0386  
       Serial number: 003MLR0A9D4N
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF004800000065
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00061
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X.rod
       VCID: 7F5BFE4AB772D89FB33-802A
    
       Belt Pretensioner left: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFL  H36 0350 
       Serial number: 34169667B14111480878
       Coding: 333135
    
       Belt Pretensioner right: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFR  H36 0350 
       Serial number: 34169668B14111470903
       Coding: 333135
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 811 14
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 357670000002A9F0911W
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 211 14
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 35867000000834A0C11P
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 111 14
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502A3188FC0161CD
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 111 14
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502B9188FC02A32I
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 403 110 14
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502B71860BC1B0EM
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J524)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 521 P    HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
       Component: Lenks.Modul   075 0175  
       Revision: FF032032    Serial number: 20141112400579
       Coding: 0410
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
       ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
       VCID: 3FDBBE4AF7F2189FF33-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
       Part No SW: 5G1 920 750     HW: 5G1 920 750 
       Component: KOMBI         304 4270  
       Coding: 07A412082380000800086A001400000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009037
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
       VCID: 649151263ED41B474E1-8030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AB    HW: 5Q0 907 530 L
       Component: GW MQB Mid    211 2203  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 10111410800878
       Coding: 030100042F085700EF00024C1C0F00010001050000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 011020
       ROD: EV_GatewConti_011.rod
       VCID: 71BF2872F126BEEF357-8024
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 J    HW: 5G0 959 442 J  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H16 0038 
       Serial number: 21140000169980064462
       Coding: 28FFFF
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 G    HW: 5Q0 915 181 G
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H04 8050 
       Serial number: 3277405003          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 593 C    HW: 5Q4 959 593 B
       Component: TSG FS        009 0015  
       Serial number: 0000126292382 
       Coding: 003A03208000028000001000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 45D7ACA2952E424FB9F-8010
    
       Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 A    HW: 5Q4 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000007186499
       Coding: 010000
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 R    HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  126 1061  
       Coding: 0102
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_012_VW37.rod
       VCID: 43D3B2BA9B1A7C7F97B-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 592 C    HW: 5Q4 959 592 B
       Component: TSG BFS       009 0015  
       Serial number: 0000126302200 
       Coding: 003A01208E00028000801000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 44D1B1A69E147B47AE1-8010
    
       Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 A    HW: 5Q4 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002 
       Serial number: 00000000000007117573
       Coding: 090000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 035 846 A    HW: 5G0 035 846 A
       Component: MU-S-N-ER     041 0430  
       Serial number: V1F01611140255
       Coding: 02730201FF00000021110001000800001F0100140100010045
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002039
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
       VCID: 270B062A0F62B05FAB3-8072
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605 D    HW: 5G0 919 605 D
       Component: ABT_Std_Nav  H60 0030 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9PS4049LB      
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 866 Q    HW: -----------
       Component:  ECE 2015  --- 0045 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    1 Fault Found:
    0008 - Connection between Antenna Amp 2 for Radio and Antenna 
              B1273 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 115
                        Mileage: 154987 km
                        Date: 2019.09.13
                        Time: 08:14:10
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.4 V
                        Status of antenna 2 for radio-Antenna current: 0 mA
                        Status of antenna 2 for radio-Connection between radio and antenna amplifier: Electrical OK
                        Status of antenna 2 for radio-Connection between antenna amplifier and antenna: Open circuit
                        Status of antenna 2 for radio-Reception level antenna 2: 255 dBµV
    
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:36, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/12.0V)-----------

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    There's a crazy amount of data regarding the clutches in the measuring values of that TCU, but I'm not sure exactly what it is you're looking for. Have you got an example of the data you like from an older, non-UDS DSG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    There's a crazy amount of data regarding the clutches in the measuring values of that TCU, but I'm not sure exactly what it is you're looking for. Have you got an example of the data you like from an older, non-UDS DSG?

    -Uwe-
    I Would like to see the clutch adaptions like in MB 115-3 95-3 (new 11mm worn 17mm)

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