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    Centr. Electr. II faults. What's this stuff mean!

    2011 JSW SE 2.5L

    While chasing some HVAC gremlins (AC intermittent, solenoid fix installed, then it didn't work for a month...now it works even when switched off!). Did a scan an finally got the scan off the laptop. Mentions one fault in circuit intermittent and another about the module incorrectly coded. Now although I have a VCDS I have never tried custom codes on this ride. I noted the fault stamps were 1.10.2014 which is prior to my ownership too...so maybe another coded.

    How does one identify these concerns (primarily the coding comment) and find the correct code? I'm assuming Cent Elect II is a who list of functionality from pano roof to wipers from what I can tell? Can someone educate me to Cent Elec II?


    Code:
    Monday,09,September,2019,19:24:57:39593
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
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    VIN: 3VWPZ7AJ5BM612681   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 202720km-125964mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    
    
    
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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    
    
    Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 4F 52 56 62 72 77
             
    
    
    VIN: 3VWPZ7AJ5BM612681   Mileage: 202720km-125964miles
    
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CBU)       Labels: 07K-906-055-CBT.clb
       Part No SW: 07K 906 055 BE    HW: 07K 906 055 
       Component: 2,5l R5/4V      G01 9213  
       Revision: T4H04---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000075
       Shop #: WSC 08151 444 84507
       VCID: 72A8117A6D3588DF9F-8026
    
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
       Part No SW: 09G 927 750 LM    HW: 09G 927 750 LM
       Component: AQ 250 6F           1734  
       Revision: 00H90000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000840
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 075E50AE76B79D77D8-8052
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BC    HW: 1K0 907 379 BC
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H30 0106  
       Revision: 00H30001    
       Coding: 114B400C492300FC881102EC921A0041B70000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 74A41762D72186EF8D-8020
    
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02214 - Tire Pressure Warning 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100010
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 239
                        Mileage: 201917 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.01.18
                        Time: 21:08:34
    
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Count: 0
                        Count: 32768
                        Count: 4608
                        Count: 16401
                        Count: 50946
                        Count: 0
                        Count: 511
                        Count: 0
    
    
    
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 907 336 AJ    HW: 3C8 907 336 AJ
       Component: Climatic      H14 0305  
       Revision: 00009001    
       Coding: 0000001002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00146
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01005
       ROD: EV_ClimaBasis_VW36.rod
       VCID: 75A22A66D45B9FE7BA-8020
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 084 E    HW: 5K0 937 084 E
       Component: BCM PQ35 B    011 0035  
       Revision: BG011001    
       Coding: 2D380E1F902F3EC400080081600000C401000086435D8D60648020000040
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3424D76297A1C6EF4D-8060
    
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 29071  21  0512 
       Coding: 009795
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags
    Cannot be reached
    
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 AH    HW: 5K0 953 549 B
       Component: Lenks.Modul   007 0080  
       Revision: --------    Serial number:  90440JFE000BG
       Coding: 188A140000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00186
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
       ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
       VCID: 76A02D6AC95D94FFB3-8022
    
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542     HW: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H05 0010 
       Serial number: 0002241             
       Coding: 820000
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 5K0 920 971 B    HW: 5K0 920 971 B
       Component: KOMBI         H03 0406  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 270F01
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00186
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 2E10C50A718DEC3F3B-807A
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 A    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway   H25 5603  
       Revision:   H25       Serial number: 03081001200958
       Coding: ED807F0600160300002002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
       VCID: 2E10C50AB98DEC3F3B-807A
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 919 879     HW: 5N0 919 879 
       Component: Kompass         001 0001  
       Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1225223R99HH06
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 7EB0354A296DDCBFEB-802A
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H03 0406  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6A98091A8DE5401F27-803E
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 959 701 B    HW: 3C0 959 793 
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0307  
       Revision: 13101005    Serial number: 0001235618
       Coding: 0004B5
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide A03004
       ROD: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide_VW36.rod
       VCID: 271E302E5E77BD77F8-8072
    
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AH    HW: 1K0 959 795 T  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  006 1401 
       Serial number: 00000005011784      
       Coding: 000490
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3001  
       Revision: 00H17000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: 312ADE76A8B3F3C726-8064
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: EZE_2         H25 5603  
       Revision:   H25       Serial number: 03081001200958
       Coding: 000B0500
       Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
       VCID: 6FAE180EBE07A53770-803A
    
    
    2 Faults Found:
    02071 - Local Databus 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 244
                        Mileage: 201104 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.01.10
                        Time: 20:20:02
    
    
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 12
                        Reset counter: 210
                        Mileage: 201103 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.01.10
                        Time: 07:40:59
    
    
    
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 959 702 B    HW: 3C0 959 792 
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0307  
       Revision: 15101005    Serial number: 0001230716
       Coding: 0004B4
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide A03004
       ROD: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide_VW32.rod
       VCID: 281C33125369B20FF1-807C
    
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AH    HW: 1K0 959 794 T  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  006 1401 
       Serial number: 00000005027190      
       Coding: 000490
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
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    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
       Component: MIB2-S-R-CN   036 0317  
       Revision: -----001    Serial number: VWZ6Z2Q7005543
       Coding: 1700040004000A
       Shop #: WSC 00081 790 00117
       VCID: 46C09DAAF13D447FE3-8012
    
    
    4 Faults Found:
    00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100010
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 73
                        Mileage: 190529 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.08.26
                        Time: 07:45:38
    
    
    00856 - Radio Antenna 
                007 - Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100111
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 142
                        Mileage: 179714 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.04.26
                        Time: 07:52:04
    
    
    02873 - Control Module for Back-Up Camera (J772) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 18
                        Mileage: 151271 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2012.08.04
                        Time: 21:11:44
    
    
    00856 - Radio Antenna 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100111
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 142
                        Mileage: 179714 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.04.26
                        Time: 07:52:04
    
    
    
    
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    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 C    HW: 7P6 035 730 C
       Component: TELEFON       H05 0440  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007668217051
       Coding: 0A00000000010100
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01007
       ROD: UHVNA.rod
       VCID: 3228D17A65B5C8DF5F-8066
    
    
    2 Faults Found:
    9457427 - Left audio channel for speech/telephone 
              B104F 13 [009] - Short to GND
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 254
                        Reset counter: 210
                        Mileage: 170325 km
                        Date: 2018.09.09
                        Time: 18:03:06
    
    
    9457171 - Right audio channel for speech/telephone 
              B104E 13 [009] - Short to GND
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 15
                        Mileage: 170325 km
                        Date: 2018.09.09
                        Time: 18:03:06
    
    
    
    
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    Hello,

    How does one identify these concerns (primarily the coding comment) and find the correct code? I'm assuming Cent Elect II is a who list of functionality from pano roof to wipers from what I can tell? Can someone educate me to Cent Elec II?
    It would appear that the [Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)] is not coded correctly for the equipment this vehicle has installed as per the VIN.

    [P75] = "Panoramic sunroof & 17-inch alloy wheelspackage"

    You should have a coding value of [050B0500] for the [4F], that is for the Panoramic sunroof/blind. Unless someone has sealed it up and preventing it from opening due to water leaks.


    The J520-Vehicle Electrical System Control Module 2 is part of the J533-Vehicle Electrical System Control Module and is primarily responsible for the following:

    J245-Power Sunroof Control Motor (with V1-Sunroof Motor)
    J394 Roof Blind Control Module (with V260-Sunroof Blind Motor)

    Please see the Volkswagen Self Study Program 892803-The 2009 Jetta SportWagen for more information about the J520 and a whole lot more.


    Your Auto-Scan is missing the information in the Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A
    and
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A


    Was there any work to the Panoramic sunroof or any of it's components?

    Hope this helps,

    drpeter

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPeter View Post
    Hello,



    It would appear that the [Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)] is not coded correctly for the equipment this vehicle has installed as per the VIN.

    [P75] = "Panoramic sunroof & 17-inch alloy wheelspackage"

    You should have a coding value of [050B0500] for the [4F], that is for the Panoramic sunroof/blind. Unless someone has sealed it up and preventing it from opening due to water leaks.


    The J520-Vehicle Electrical System Control Module 2 is part of the J533-Vehicle Electrical System Control Module and is primarily responsible for the following:

    J245-Power Sunroof Control Motor (with V1-Sunroof Motor)
    J394 Roof Blind Control Module (with V260-Sunroof Blind Motor)

    Please see the Volkswagen Self Study Program 892803-The 2009 Jetta SportWagen for more information about the J520 and a whole lot more.


    Your Auto-Scan is missing the information in the Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A
    and
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A


    Was there any work to the Panoramic sunroof or any of it's components?

    Hope this helps,

    drpeter
    Pano roof works fine and the sunshade did work til...

    I think you might be onto something. The panoramic roof blind self ejected last month and I have it in the full open position now and cut out the train wreck that self destructed. You think one of the sensors tossed a code and may have extended past a stop?

    It does mention wrong coding too...prob why you asked about previous work. The code will not reset.

    I thought I've seen in other examples the error actually mention pano roof.

    I'll do some reading on your link later and check the coding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPeter View Post
    Hello,



    It would appear that the [Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)] is not coded correctly for the equipment this vehicle has installed as per the VIN.

    [P75] = "Panoramic sunroof & 17-inch alloy wheelspackage"

    You should have a coding value of [050B0500] for the [4F], that is for the Panoramic sunroof/blind. Unless someone has sealed it up and preventing it from opening due to water leaks.


    The J520-Vehicle Electrical System Control Module 2 is part of the J533-Vehicle Electrical System Control Module and is primarily responsible for the following:

    J245-Power Sunroof Control Motor (with V1-Sunroof Motor)
    J394 Roof Blind Control Module (with V260-Sunroof Blind Motor)

    Please see the Volkswagen Self Study Program 892803-The 2009 Jetta SportWagen for more information about the J520 and a whole lot more.


    Your Auto-Scan is missing the information in the Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A
    and
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A


    Was there any work to the Panoramic sunroof or any of it's components?

    Hope this helps,

    drpeter
    Looks like that self study guide is for people more important than me...is a subscription service? I see no option to create an account to login?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carboncow View Post
    Looks like that self study guide is for people more important than me...is a subscription service? I see no option to create an account to login?
    You will need to Register and then subscribe(purchase) access to the repair information, then you can view and save that document.

    Pro-tip!! I would dedicate the time to grab ALL the documents I could during the subscription period! You can save (or print) wiring diagrams, component location, workshop repair manuals as pdf files not only for this vehicle but for other Volkswagen vehicles up to current models.

    erWin Online Registration

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    I'll do some reading on your link later and check the coding.
    I just wanted to add, you can can re-coded the [4F] controller and then clear ALL the fault codes and see what comes back.

    By the way, the other control module's coding looks okay.

    Also, if you could, post up a new Auto-Scan after the codes cleared, this would help others in the future.

    Thanks,

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    address 15 airbags can not be reached..?

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    address 15 airbags can not be reached..?




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    Quote Originally Posted by raf0468 View Post
    address 15 airbags can not be reached..?
    If you have a look at the Auto-Scan's Gateway installation List, you can see the Gateway does report the Airbag controller was [OK] at the time the information was gathered.

    Code:
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    So it would appear for what ever reason VCDS did not establish communication with this controller during the actual Auto-Scan, another scan would be a good test,



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    If you have a look at the Auto-Scan's Gateway installation List, you can see the Gateway does report the Airbag controller was [OK] at the time the information was gathered.
    I used to rely on this method of checking the installation list too, but found that is not always the truth & FOD can be lurking!
    You are probably right here Peter & because the other modules's are not complaining of no 0x15.......
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