05.5 Jetta Immobilizer Active

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Burgas

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Hey Everyone,

My girlfriend's car (not her primary transportation) has been having issues with the immobilizer for the past few months. In fact this issue is why I bought a VCDS cable in the first place.

It all started after we moved, her car has been fine as far as the immobilizer was concerned, never had any issues. At the new place it had sat for a few weeks and when I went to start it the battery was dead, no big deal I've had batteries die before (especially in my project car), so I pulled the battery out, booked up the Battery Tender and let it get fully charged. After the battery was charged and reinstalled when I tried to start it I got "Immobilizer Active" on the instrument cluster and the flashing car-key symbol on the dash.

Since getting the initial issue, I've been able to get the car started and driving on occasion. The first time I was able to get past the immobilizer I left the key in the ignition in the "on" position for 3 or so hours with the car hooked up to the Battery Tender. After I went back out I was able to start it and the error on the cluster went away. However the issue came back after cycling the key.

I disassembled the steering wheel column enough to disconnect the plug going into the D2 Reading Coil and to wiggle that around to see if the wires had any corrosion or issue, there were none I could find. I've also removed the instrument cluster and made sure the cable going from it's connection to the D2 Reading Coil wasn't pinched or frayed.

Another thing I tried was to take key apart (sadly there's only one key for this car, so no idea if this key is dying), and then try and start the car with the physical key for the car, but with my Jetta's key right next to the reading coil. The only change from doing that was an additional fault in the immobilizer in VCDS
Code:
01176 - Key 
            008 - Implausible Signal

I have swapped batteries, and taken the battery for the car in for a scan at Advance Auto Parts, it passed.

The weird part to me is how it is intermittent, most of the time I get the error, but occasionally the error will go away and I can start and drive the car. When that's happened the immobilizer and engine have zero faults in them and the battery voltage is around 14.2 V. When the fault is there, the scans are done with the car off and voltage is around 12.5 V. I do have hooked up to the Battery Tender currently. Below is the latest scan from the car, which the car hasn't driven since I put the original battery back in, so some errors exist in the scan that will go away when the car is driven.

Code:
 Saturday,07,September,2019,19:29:54:26167
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWSF71K25M6xxxxx   License Plate: 
Mileage: 192680km-119725mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72

VIN: 3VWSF71K25M6xxxxx   Mileage: 192680km-119725miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl
   Part No SW: 06A 906 032 QE    HW: Hardware No 
   Component: 2.5l R5/4V      G   6607  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0D1108898
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
   VCID: 71BFD5B4DDAF79FF357-8024

1 Fault Found:
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer 
            P1570 - 008 - 
Readiness: 0010 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No: 09G 927 750 AS
   Component: AQ 250 6F           0649  
   Coding: 0000008
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 025D8A78E8097267DCD-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104  
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3A2D3298C059FAA7C4D-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 AC
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0404  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6889B8D0EE75B837629-803C

3 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113) 
            000 - -
00926 - Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 C    HW: 1K0 937 049 C*
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H34 0803  
   Revision: 00H34000    Serial number: 00000000005590
   Coding: F4058E02400418000014000000140000002077035C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2F3B13CC0B1B2F0F633-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0401  
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 M  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 005  0605  
   Coding: 00217125
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E    HW: 1K0 909 605 E
   Component: 1S AIRBAG VW8R  024 6300  
   Revision: 03024000    Serial number: 0037KD005CZ9  
   Coding: 0012627
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2E050EC80C112607685-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0003

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME070F3B23C

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME07264E47G

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME042D083DA

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME0419011F%

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME050D0341T

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME050D0E15%

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AB    HW: 1K0 953 549 AB
   Component: J0527           010 0045  
   Coding: 0010041
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 72BDDAB8D8A942E7CCD-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 971 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 2120  
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 07020 993 55679
   VCID: 2B0307DC3F03532F4FB-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 E    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H09 0110  
   Revision: 09          Serial number: 2700104B020164
   Coding: 3F3F03420F1002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 290FFDD435FF413FBD7-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K5 919 965     HW: 1K5 919 965 
   Component: Kompass         002 0001  
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 0371356TMSQH03
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 78A9E890BED528B7F29-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 971 C
   Component: IMMO            3HL 2120  
   Shop #: WSC 09430 444 85658
   VCID: 2B0307DC3F03532F4FB-807E

2 Faults Found:
01176 - Key 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01176 - Key 
            008 - Implausible Signal

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2339  
   Coding: 0001271
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 363526A8F4411EC7205-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.3       1502  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 303910B0162530F77A9-8064

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            000 - -

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 AT    HW: 1K0 959 433 AT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  010 0101  
   Revision: 00010000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 12100F880106083F2D06050FA0080F0490A540
   Shop #: WSC 09430 444 85658
   VCID: 025D8A78E8097267DCD-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

3 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 44
                    Mileage: 192683 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 01:12:19

00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 44
                    Mileage: 192683 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 01:14:04

00931 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Right (F223) 
            003 - Mechanical Failure
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100011
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 44
                    Mileage: 192683 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 01:27:00


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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 3C0-035-456.clb
   Part No: 1K6 035 456 
   Component: 08K Audioverst.     0003  
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 00000000002530
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 698FBDD4F57F813F7D7-803C

2 Faults Found:
00419 - Left Front DSP Midrange Speaker (R103) 
            011 - Open Circuit
00420 - Front Right DSP Midrange Speaker (R104) 
            011 - Open Circuit

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2339  
   Coding: 0001271
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 372B2BACF34BE7CF3B3-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 A    HW: 1K0 035 180 A
   Component: Radio DE2       008 0011  
   Revision: 00008000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7D2013771
   Coding: 0010010
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 1E65DE087CB1B687D85-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2416  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 313F15B41D2F39FF757-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2416  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 323D1AB8182902E70CD-8066

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:10, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V. VIgn 12.0V)-----
 
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05.5 Jetta Immobilizer Active

Hey Everyone,

My girlfriend's car (not her primary transportation) has been having issues with the immobilizer for the past few months. In fact this issue is why I bought a VCDS cable in the first place.

It all started after we moved, her car has been fine as far as the immobilizer was concerned, never had any issues. At the new place it had sat for a few weeks and when I went to start it the battery was dead, no big deal I've had batteries die before (especially in my project car), so I pulled the battery out, booked up the Battery Tender and let it get fully charged. After the battery was charged and reinstalled when I tried to start it I got "Immobilizer Active" on the instrument cluster and the flashing car-key symbol on the dash.

Since getting the initial issue, I've been able to get the car started and driving on occasion. The first time I was able to get past the immobilizer I left the key in the ignition in the "on" position for 3 or so hours with the car hooked up to the Battery Tender. After I went back out I was able to start it and the error on the cluster went away. However the issue came back after cycling the key.

I disassembled the steering wheel column enough to disconnect the plug going into the D2 Reading Coil and to wiggle that around to see if the wires had any corrosion or issue, there were none I could find. I've also removed the instrument cluster and made sure the cable going from it's connection to the D2 Reading Coil wasn't pinched or frayed.

Another thing I tried was to take key apart (sadly there's only one key for this car, so no idea if this key is dying), and then try and start the car with the physical key for the car, but with my Jetta's key right next to the reading coil. The only change from doing that was an additional fault in the immobilizer in VCDS


I have swapped batteries, and taken the battery for the car in for a scan at Advance Auto Parts, it passed.

The weird part to me is how it is intermittent, most of the time I get the error, but occasionally the error will go away and I can start and drive the car. When that's happened the immobilizer and engine have zero faults in them and the battery voltage is around 14.2 V. When the fault is there, the scans are done with the car off and voltage is around 12.5 V. I do have hooked up to the Battery Tender currently. Below is the latest scan from the car, which the car hasn't driven since I put the original battery back in, so some errors exist in the scan that will go away when the car is driven.


Please clear all fault codes turn key OFF wait 30 seconds than ON and post a fresh new auto-scan immediately after doing so & the OBD2 data MODE 01-01, 03, 07 & 9

Please provide your actual full VIN NUMBER?

Are you sure this is the entire story?

Thank you

Code:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl Part No SW: 06A 906 032 QE HW: Hardware No Component: 2.5l R5/4V G 6607 Revision: 00000000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0D1108898 Coding: 0000003 Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032 VCID: 71BFD5B4DDAF79FF357-8024 1 Fault Found: 17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer P1570 - 008 - Readiness: 0010 0000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09G-927-750.clb Part No: 09G 927 750 AS Component: AQ 250 6F 0649 Coding: 0000008 Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000 VCID: 025D8A78E8097267DCD-8056 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl Part No: 1K0 907 044 AC Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0404 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000 VCID: 6889B8D0EE75B837629-803C 3 Faults Found: 00576 - Terminal 15 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent 00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113) 000 - - 00926 - Terminal 30 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb Part No: 1K0 920 971 C Component: IMMO 3HL 2120 Shop #: WSC 09430 444 85658 VCID: 2B0307DC3F03532F4FB-807E 2 Faults Found: 01176 - Key 004 - No Signal/Communication 01176 - Key 008 - Implausible Signal

MY BET IS ON FOD!

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Sure, here it is.

I'm not sure what you're implying about there being more to the story? We bought the car through private party a couple of years ago, what the car had done to it before then is information I don't have. Since we bought it the vacuum pump broke and we opted for the "Spulen Ultimate Brake Vacuum Pump Delete Kit For 2.5L" since it was a more cost effective option, replaced tires, and changed filters and fluids as needed. I did notice a spacer on the post cat O2 sensor when I was under the car a while back, but I haven't investigated if there's an issue with the catalytic converter or anything since I don't see any CELs about it, and it passes inspection. Also I'm pretty certain the previous owner had a different stereo in it at some point, it certainly sounds different than the stereo in my Jetta.

Code:
Saturday,07,September,2019,19:55:35:26167
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWSF71K25M602142   License Plate: 
Mileage: 192680km-119725mi   Repair Order: 



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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72

VIN: 3VWSF71K25M602142   Mileage: 192680km-119725miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl
   Part No SW: 06A 906 032 QE    HW: Hardware No 
   Component: 2.5l R5/4V      G   6607  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0D1108898
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
   VCID: 71BFD5B4DDAF79FF357-8024

1 Fault Found:
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer 
            P1570 - 008 - 
Readiness: 0010 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No: 09G 927 750 AS
   Component: AQ 250 6F           0649  
   Coding: 0000008
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 025D8A78E8097267DCD-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104  
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3A2D3298C059FAA7C4D-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 AC
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0404  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6889B8D0EE75B837629-803C

3 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113) 
            000 - -
00926 - Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 C    HW: 1K0 937 049 C*
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H34 0803  
   Revision: 00H34000    Serial number: 00000000005590
   Coding: F4058E02400418000014000000140000002077035C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2F3B13CC0B1B2F0F633-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0401  
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 M  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 005  0605  
   Coding: 00217125
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E    HW: 1K0 909 605 E
   Component: 1S AIRBAG VW8R  024 6300  
   Revision: 03024000    Serial number: 0037KD005CZ9  
   Coding: 0012627
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2E050EC80C112607685-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0003

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME070F3B23C

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME07264E47G

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME042D083DA

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME0419011F%

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME050D0341T

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME050D0E15%

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AB    HW: 1K0 953 549 AB
   Component: J0527           010 0045  
   Coding: 0010041
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 72BDDAB8D8A942E7CCD-8026

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 971 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 2120  
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 07020 993 55679
   VCID: 2B0307DC3F03532F4FB-807E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 E    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H09 0110  
   Revision: 09          Serial number: 2700104B020164
   Coding: 3F3F03420F1002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 290FFDD435FF413FBD7-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K5 919 965     HW: 1K5 919 965 
   Component: Kompass         002 0001  
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 0371356TMSQH03
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 78A9E890BED528B7F29-802C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 971 C
   Component: IMMO            3HL 2120  
   Shop #: WSC 09430 444 85658
   VCID: 2B0307DC3F03532F4FB-807E

2 Faults Found:
01176 - Key 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01176 - Key 
            008 - Implausible Signal

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2339  
   Coding: 0001271
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 363526A8F4411EC7205-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.3       1502  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 303910B0162530F77A9-8064

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            000 - -

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 AT    HW: 1K0 959 433 AT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  010 0101  
   Revision: 00010000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 12100F880106083F2D06050FA0080F0490A540
   Shop #: WSC 09430 444 85658
   VCID: 025D8A78E8097267DCD-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 44
                    Mileage: 192683 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:32:31


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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 3C0-035-456.clb
   Part No: 1K6 035 456 
   Component: 08K Audioverst.     0003  
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 00000000002530
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 698FBDD4F57F813F7D7-803C

2 Faults Found:
00419 - Left Front DSP Midrange Speaker (R103) 
            011 - Open Circuit
00420 - Front Right DSP Midrange Speaker (R104) 
            011 - Open Circuit

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2339  
   Coding: 0001271
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 372B2BACF34BE7CF3B3-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 A    HW: 1K0 035 180 A
   Component: Radio DE2       008 0011  
   Revision: 00008000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7D2013771
   Coding: 0010010
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 1E65DE087CB1B687D85-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2416  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 313F15B41D2F39FF757-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2416  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 323D1AB8182902E70CD-8066

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:09, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V)-----------
Saturday,07,September,2019,19:56:41:26167
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWSF71K25M602142   License Plate: 
Mileage: 192680km-119725mi   Repair Order: 


Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness  --  Address 10

Number of DTCs stored: 0  --  MIL Status: MIL OFF
Misfire monitoring:  Passed
Fuel System: Not installed.
Comprehensive Components:  Passed
Catalyst monitoring:  Passed
Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Evaporative system monitoring: Not installed.
Secondary air system monitoring: Not installed.
A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
Oxygen sensor monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
Oxygen sensor heater monitoring: Not installed.
Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Not installed.

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Mode 03: Emission related fault codes

Address 10 (Engine): No fault code found.

Address 1A (Auto Trans): No fault code found.


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Mode 9 : Calibration Identification

Type 02 - VIN : 3VWSF71K25M602142 (Address 10)
Type 04 - Calibration ID : 06A906032QE 6607 (Address 10)
Type 04 - Calibration ID : 09G927750AS_0649 (Address 1A)
Type 06 - Calibration Verification Number : A8683904 (Address 10)
Type 06 - Calibration Verification Number : 452C22AD (Address 1A)
 
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Sure, here it is.

I'm not sure what you're implying about there being more to the story? We bought the car through private party a couple of years ago, what the car had done to it before then is information I don't have. Since we bought it the vacuum pump broke and we opted for the "Spulen Ultimate Brake Vacuum Pump Delete Kit For 2.5L" since it was a more cost effective option, replaced tires, and changed filters and fluids as needed. I did notice a spacer on the post cat O2 sensor when I was under the car a while back, but I haven't investigated if there's an issue with the catalytic converter or anything since I don't see any CELs about it, and it passes inspection. Also I'm pretty certain the previous owner had a different stereo in it at some point, it certainly sounds different than the stereo in my Jetta.



Car is indeed FOD Modified, not implying anything, I'm telling you it is............ ;)

Just like the other dirty car you posted that shouldn't pass inspection & when it as you aforementioned "passes inspection"?

fod-control-signs-risk-series.png


Looks like I lost the side bet, but it was good odds! :p

Correct all FOD or get the immobilizer deleted too, pretty much everything else is already, no?

Vehicle Identification No.3VWSF71K25M602142
ModelJetta
JEM
Date of production11.01.2005
Model year2005
Sales type1K27N3
Engine CodeBGP
Transmission CodeHFU

Emission standard7GBEmission standard ULEV 2


Thank you for full disclosure though...........
 
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I'm curious what your side bet was?

My Jetta I have knowingly modified, mostly for performance and fun. I'm not certain what all has been done to this car, the risks of buying used of course. I am curious, why the highlights on the component revisions for the engine and transmission? I searched for another 2.5L autoscan and see the same component revisions for that car, so I am confused a tad on how that lead you to FOD.

I assume from the OBD 01-01 where it says "Oxygen sensor monitoring: Failed or Incomplete" that you're thinking the catalytic converter under efficiency flags have been removed from the ECU? Tricky tricky.

Well here's a question, how would I go about removing all FOD? I don't know what has been altered in the ECU, or how to reset it to pristine factory conditions. Any suggestions there? Is that something either an independent shop or the dealer would need to do?

I have looked into the Immobilizer Delete from Kerma TDI, which I'm not 100% opposed to, but the downside from what I've read is that the error would still exist in the cluster display and that's not ideal.
 
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Immediately after clearing fault codes, there should be a number of Readiness bits reading "Fail", not just one..

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I'm curious what your side bet was?

Majestic clearance only!

My Jetta I have knowingly modified, mostly for performance and fun. I'm not certain what all has been done to this car, the risks of buying used of course. I am curious, why the highlights on the component revisions for the engine and transmission? I searched for another 2.5L autoscan and see the same component revisions for that car, so I am confused a tad on how that lead you to FOD.

Is it not self evident & are you sure?

I assume from the OBD 01-01 where it says "Oxygen sensor monitoring: Failed or Incomplete" that you're thinking the catalytic converter under efficiency flags have been removed from the ECU? Tricky tricky.

Did you JPPSG yet and the entire thread?

Well here's a question, how would I go about removing all FOD? I don't know what has been altered in the ECU, or how to reset it to pristine factory conditions. Any suggestions there? Is that something either an independent shop or the dealer would need to do?

Replacement ECU or flashed by dealer or authorized agent for EPA CARB pass-thru, no?

Was it SVM 348F?


I have looked into the Immobilizer Delete from Kerma TDI, which I'm not 100% opposed to, but the downside from what I've read is that the error would still exist in the cluster display and that's not ideal.

Only for the people that do it half ass, no?


Have no fear, DOJ is going after CARB to shut it down and the EPA along with now suing VAG & for trying to make things in the verse, being cleaner, I just can't wrap my head around it myself, how about you?

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/bmw-ford-honda-volkswagen-doj-investigation-california/

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JPPSG:
Step 1:
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Step 2:
Stock save for:
Spulen Ultimate Brake Vacuum Pump Delete Kit For 2.5L
Modifications to ECU around emissions it would seem

Step 3:
Code:
Saturday,07,September,2019,19:55:35:26167
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
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VIN: 3VWSF71K25M602142   License Plate: 
Mileage: 192680km-119725mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72

VIN: 3VWSF71K25M602142   Mileage: 192680km-119725miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl
   Part No SW: 06A 906 032 QE    HW: Hardware No 
   Component: 2.5l R5/4V      G   6607  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0D1108898
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
   VCID: 71BFD5B4DDAF79FF357-8024

1 Fault Found:
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer 
            P1570 - 008 - 
Readiness: 0010 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No: 09G 927 750 AS
   Component: AQ 250 6F           0649  
   Coding: 0000008
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 025D8A78E8097267DCD-8056

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104  
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3A2D3298C059FAA7C4D-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 AC
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0404  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6889B8D0EE75B837629-803C

3 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113) 
            000 - -
00926 - Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 C    HW: 1K0 937 049 C*
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H34 0803  
   Revision: 00H34000    Serial number: 00000000005590
   Coding: F4058E02400418000014000000140000002077035C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2F3B13CC0B1B2F0F633-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0401  
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 M  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 005  0605  
   Coding: 00217125
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E    HW: 1K0 909 605 E
   Component: 1S AIRBAG VW8R  024 6300  
   Revision: 03024000    Serial number: 0037KD005CZ9  
   Coding: 0012627
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2E050EC80C112607685-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0003

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME070F3B23C

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME07264E47G

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME042D083DA

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME0419011F%

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME050D0341T

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME050D0E15%

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AB    HW: 1K0 953 549 AB
   Component: J0527           010 0045  
   Coding: 0010041
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 72BDDAB8D8A942E7CCD-8026

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 971 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 2120  
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 07020 993 55679
   VCID: 2B0307DC3F03532F4FB-807E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 E    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H09 0110  
   Revision: 09          Serial number: 2700104B020164
   Coding: 3F3F03420F1002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 290FFDD435FF413FBD7-807C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K5 919 965     HW: 1K5 919 965 
   Component: Kompass         002 0001  
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 0371356TMSQH03
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 78A9E890BED528B7F29-802C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 971 C
   Component: IMMO            3HL 2120  
   Shop #: WSC 09430 444 85658
   VCID: 2B0307DC3F03532F4FB-807E

2 Faults Found:
01176 - Key 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01176 - Key 
            008 - Implausible Signal

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2339  
   Coding: 0001271
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 363526A8F4411EC7205-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.3       1502  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 303910B0162530F77A9-8064

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            000 - -

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 AT    HW: 1K0 959 433 AT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  010 0101  
   Revision: 00010000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 12100F880106083F2D06050FA0080F0490A540
   Shop #: WSC 09430 444 85658
   VCID: 025D8A78E8097267DCD-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 44
                    Mileage: 192683 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:32:31


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 3C0-035-456.clb
   Part No: 1K6 035 456 
   Component: 08K Audioverst.     0003  
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 00000000002530
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 698FBDD4F57F813F7D7-803C

2 Faults Found:
00419 - Left Front DSP Midrange Speaker (R103) 
            011 - Open Circuit
00420 - Front Right DSP Midrange Speaker (R104) 
            011 - Open Circuit

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2339  
   Coding: 0001271
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 372B2BACF34BE7CF3B3-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 A    HW: 1K0 035 180 A
   Component: Radio DE2       008 0011  
   Revision: 00008000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7D2013771
   Coding: 0010010
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 1E65DE087CB1B687D85-804A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2416  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 313F15B41D2F39FF757-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2416  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 323D1AB8182902E70CD-8066

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:09, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V)-----------
Saturday,07,September,2019,19:56:41:26167
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWSF71K25M602142   License Plate: 
Mileage: 192680km-119725mi   Repair Order: 


Mode 01 - PID 01 : Readiness  --  Address 10

Number of DTCs stored: 0  --  MIL Status: MIL OFF
Misfire monitoring:  Passed
Fuel System: Not installed.
Comprehensive Components:  Passed
Catalyst monitoring:  Passed
Heated catalyst monitoring: Not installed.
Evaporative system monitoring: Not installed.
Secondary air system monitoring: Not installed.
A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed.
Oxygen sensor monitoring:  Failed or Incomplete
Oxygen sensor heater monitoring: Not installed.
Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Not installed.

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Mode 03: Emission related fault codes

Address 10 (Engine): No fault code found.

Address 1A (Auto Trans): No fault code found.


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Mode 9 : Calibration Identification

Type 02 - VIN : 3VWSF71K25M602142 (Address 10)
Type 04 - Calibration ID : 06A906032QE 6607 (Address 10)
Type 04 - Calibration ID : 09G927750AS_0649 (Address 1A)
Type 06 - Calibration Verification Number : A8683904 (Address 10)
Type 06 - Calibration Verification Number : 452C22AD (Address 1A)

Step 4:
It all started after we moved, her car has been fine as far as the immobilizer was concerned, never had any issues. At the new place it had sat for a few weeks and when I went to start it the battery was dead, no big deal I've had batteries die before (especially in my project car), so I pulled the battery out, booked up the Battery Tender and let it get fully charged. After the battery was charged and reinstalled when I tried to start it I got "Immobilizer Active" on the instrument cluster and the flashing car-key symbol on the dash.
Since getting the initial issue, I've been able to get the car started and driving on occasion. The first time I was able to get past the immobilizer I left the key in the ignition in the "on" position for 3 or so hours with the car hooked up to the Battery Tender. After I went back out I was able to start it and the error on the cluster went away. However the issue came back after cycling the key.
I disassembled the steering wheel column enough to disconnect the plug going into the D2 Reading Coil and to wiggle that around to see if the wires had any corrosion or issue, there were none I could find. I've also removed the instrument cluster and made sure the cable going from it's connection to the D2 Reading Coil wasn't pinched or frayed.
Another thing I tried was to take key apart (sadly there's only one key for this car, so no idea if this key is dying), and then try and start the car with the physical key for the car, but with my Jetta's key right next to the reading coil. The only change from doing that was an additional fault in the immobilizer in VCDS
I have swapped batteries, and taken the battery for the car in for a scan at Advance Auto Parts, it passed.

Step 5:
As far as I'm aware everything is OEM minus above modifications

Step 6:
Concern is immobilizer
Code:
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 971 C
   Component: IMMO            3HL 2120  
   Shop #: WSC 09430 444 85658
   VCID: 2B0307DC3F03532F4FB-807E

2 Faults Found:
01176 - Key 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01176 - Key 
            008 - Implausible Signal

Step 7:
I have checked fuses related to instrument cluster. I have cleaned the battery terminals and connections as well as charged the battery with a Battery Tender.

Replacement ECU or flashed by dealer or authorized agent for EPA CARB pass-thru, no?

Was it SVM 348F?
Not sure

Have no fear, DOJ is going after CARB to shut it down and the EPA along with now suing VAG & for trying to make things in the verse, being cleaner, I just can't wrap my head around it myself, how about you?
Personally I cannot stand the current administration and I don't see how cars being more efficient than they legally need to be would be a problem in the slightest.
 
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Using RTFB & WD did you try a bifurcated twisted pair to D2 from cluster or wound your own coil to isolate and see if key responds in VCDS blocks in 0x25 advanced measuring blocks?

Have you checked for a corroded connection or used stabilant 22A on all connections to enhance?

Thank you for attempting to JPPSG!

Did you read TSB's & SSP?
 
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I'm curious what your side bet was?

My Jetta I have knowingly modified, mostly for performance and fun. I'm not certain what all has been done to this car, the risks of buying used of course. I am curious, why the highlights on the component revisions for the engine and transmission? I searched for another 2.5L autoscan and see the same component revisions for that car, so I am confused a tad on how that lead you to FOD.

I assume from the OBD 01-01 where it says "Oxygen sensor monitoring: Failed or Incomplete" that you're thinking the catalytic converter under efficiency flags have been removed from the ECU? Tricky tricky.

Well here's a question, how would I go about removing all FOD? I don't know what has been altered in the ECU, or how to reset it to pristine factory conditions. Any suggestions there? Is that something either an independent shop or the dealer would need to do?

I have looked into the Immobilizer Delete from Kerma TDI, which I'm not 100% opposed to, but the downside from what I've read is that the error would still exist in the cluster display and that's not ideal.

Sunday night factual follow UP for homework you may wish to entertain yourself with, NO?

Is it me or does your car look like it was a pre production vehicle/module, so couldn't you argue compensation of an ECU that comports as certified as a post useful life required free repair or maybe something else?

Test Group 5VWXV02.5253

https://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_file.jsp?docid=9611&flag=1

Is it page 73 for your pleasure, right?
 
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It is most likely cluster problem. Very common on early Mk5 , I Replaced so many of them.

So how many were with less than useful life replaced Marin & at 10-120K or 15/150K depending on how certified & since the MIL resides there?

Isn't this just an unfair competition device & used as an alleged security mechanism, further abusing the CFR to create a unjust enrichment scheme, wouldn't you just delete it OP, I mean you are apparently okay with all aforementioned AECD's deleted, why not this? :p
 
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