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    2004 vw beetle avh, code for part the it doesnt have?

    2003 vw avh come in with multiple faults related to the t-body and customer got used one. with the new tbody i get code p3025--35-00 or 19481 angle sensor 1 for throttle drive 2 G 297 implausible. code doesn't show up right away and can take awhile to show up. The thing is this car doesn't have a g297??

    when it came back after the used tbody was installed it had the following codes:

    17579 angle sensor 2 for the throttle actuator g188 implausible
    p1171-35-01

    17972 throttle actuator j338
    p1546 under voltage during basic settings

    19481 angle sensor 1 for throttle drive 2 g297
    p3025-35-10 implausible signal, intermittent

    19391 idle control sys rpm
    p0507-35-00 higher than expected

    17551 load calculation cross check
    p1143-35-00 upper limit exceeded

    17553 mass air flow sensor g70
    p1145-35-10 short to plus intermittent

    after clearing and test driving the p3025 comes back first, the epc light comes on and the car goes into limp mode. Since its the one that comes back and doesn't seem to belong its what im focused on. Could it be the wrong tbody? another bad tbody or maybe im missing something else. I tried the wiggle test and checked the terminals at the tbody. Maf output looks OK. curios to see what people think. thanks in advance.

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    Welcome to the Ross-Tech forums. When asking for assistance, you must provide a complete Auto-Scan.

    https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...t-an-Auto-Scan

    Once an Auto-Scan is provided, we will know what we are digging into. I will point out that some times [XYZ] type sensor might be refereed to with different component locators in different cars.
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    Check wiring integrity from TV to ECU.


    Need an ECU possibly & maybe it's a consumer such as OXS heaters taking out TV or you have a multiplicative air leak & bad or wrong MAF.

    As Jef said post an auto-scan..........

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    Code:
    Thursday,22,August,2019,10:42:29:16654
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
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    VIN: 3VWCK21C53M404423   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1C (1C - VW New Beetle (1998 > 2010))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 25 29 35 37 39 46 54 56 65 75
     
    VIN: 3VWCK21C53M404423   Mileage: 251530km-156293miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-AVH.lbl
       Part No: 06A 906 032 MG
       Component: 2.0l R4/2V      G   4633  
       Coding: 00001
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 6FAE28CE2FDC023770-5160
       3VWCK21C53M404423     VWZ5Z0B5198232
    
    1 Fault Found:
    19481 - Angle Sensor 1 for Throttle Drive 2 (G297) 
                P3025 - 35-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    Readiness: 0100 1101
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 907 379 L
       Component: ABS FRONT MK60      0101  
       Coding: 0004097
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 3326E4BE537466D754-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
       Component: 25 AIRBAG VW51 0E   0004  
       Coding: 12853
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 220811FAAC8EFF5FAF-4B3C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1C0-920-x4x.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 920 921 C
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V08  
       Coding: 03232
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 1E70250A98F6DBBF8B-4B1E
       3VWCK21C53M404423     VWZ5Z0B5198232
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G) 
                30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
    01176 - Key 
                07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
       Part No: 6N0 909 901 
       Component: Gateway K<->CAN    V082  
       Coding: 00006
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 70AC2BB232E21DCF69-4B1E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 959 799 G
       Component: 2K Komfortgerát HLO 0004  
       Coding: 00064
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 3B36CC9E2B24AE978C-4B1E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C2959802A
       Component: 2K Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0004  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C2959801A
       Component: 2K Tőrsteuer  
    
    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error occurred
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 035 157 D
       Component:  Radio DE2         0006  
       Coding: 06031
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 1D72220695F0C0A792-51CE
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 03:37, VBatt start/end: 13.9V/13.8V)-----------
    Last edited by Uwe; 08-22-2019 at 01:50 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    wiring checked ok. ecu maybe? not really easy to just put a new one in and see. dont mean to sound rude.

    curious why the vag com is throwing a code for something this car doesn't have. thanks again for the help.

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    wiring checked ok. ecu maybe? not really easy to just put a new one in and see. dont mean to sound rude.

    curious why the vag com is throwing a code for something this car doesn't have. thanks again for the help.
    How did you test it?

    Did you try unplugging consumers such as OXS sensors when condition exists?

    Your car does indeed have this part in the WD in RTFB for DTC displayed in VCDS, right, and did you check the WD?
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    ok so my wiring diagram from alldata which is a Bentley track diagram does not show a g297 just the g188. its show no wires going to anything but the ecu. ive checked the wd twice now. Ross tech also has no info on this code, the p3025 nor does alldata. ive seen some reference to it searching the forums but not many replies and no conclusions. also, im not sure i fully understand what you said in your last post? I did not try and disconnect the o2 sensors. sometimes the car will be fine for a few days other times it has happened in a few miles. i can try and disconnet the o2 sensors i just didnt see a relation between the two. thanks for your reply's and help its defiantly appreciated.

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    ok so my wiring diagram from alldata which is a Bentley track diagram does not show a g297 just the g188. its show no wires going to anything but the ecu. ive checked the wd twice now. Ross tech also has no info on this code, the p3025 nor does alldata. ive seen some reference to it searching the forums but not many replies and no conclusions. also, im not sure i fully understand what you said in your last post? I did not try and disconnect the o2 sensors. sometimes the car will be fine for a few days other times it has happened in a few miles. i can try and disconnet the o2 sensors i just didnt see a relation between the two. thanks for your reply's and help its defiantly appreciated.
    You mean NO DATA right?

    Could you please post a screenshot of this alleged WD?

    P3025 & G297 Seems too be in the JPPSG no?

    https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...l=1#post128304


    P302500 Throttle Drive Angle Sensor 1 -G297 Implausible signal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    You mean NO DATA right?
    No Data, Some Data, or Wrong Data when it comes to VW/Audi...

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    NEIN DATA!?
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