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    Passat b6 folding mirror retrofit

    Modules wont accept coding, getting -31 out of range

    Modules are gen3 max so should work, but i've never done folding mirrors before

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    Monday,19,August,2019,22:14:54:34436
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Workshop Code: 755 54764 070000
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ7P046711   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3C-VW46 (3C0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 53 56 62 72 7D
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ7P046711   Mileage: 281910km-175170miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-018-BKP.clb
       Part No SW: 03G 906 018 CE    HW: 03G 906 018 CE
       Component: R4 2.0l PPD1.5 G    9384  
       Revision: --H25---    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Coding: 0000072
       Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
       VCID: 6ADC7C0D45F96D1F27-803E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    005187 - Potentiometer for EGR (G212) 
                   P1443 - 007 - Signal too Low
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01010010
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 281919 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.01.09
                        Time: 22:11:13
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Torque: 128.0 Nm
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                            0.00 %
                        Battery Volts: 1.0 V
                        Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str
                        Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str
    
    Readiness: N/A
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 3C0-614-095-C2.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 614 095 P    HW: 3C0 614 095 P
       Component: ESP 440 C2     H015 0004  
       Revision:  H015       Serial number: 0667854032
       Coding: 0013602
       Shop #: WSC 00191 210 89371
       VCID: 2F6AAD19BE9BC83730-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 AM    HW: 7N0 907 426 AM
       Component: AC Manuell    H19 0304  
       Revision: 00001016    
       Coding: 0000004002
       Shop #: WSC 70885 001 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X_VW46.rod
       VCID: 7F0ABD59E67BF8B7E0-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 H    HW: 3C0 937 049 H
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1301  
       Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000004320760
       Coding: A0800F0700041A00000A00000F000000000859435C0000
       Shop #: WSC 54764 755 70000
       VCID: 2E54B01DB991C13F3B-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C2 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 290607 022  0601  
       Coding: 00046997
       Shop #: WSC 54764  
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3C0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 909 605 F    HW: 3C0 909 605 F
       Component: 02 AIRBAG VW8   029 2421  
       Revision: 08029000    Serial number: 0039USD4JJLH  
       Coding: 0012338
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 295E4301807FA607EE-807C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME110F1075 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME117A722E 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6K5Q6U873 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6VARQ03B2 
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01217 - Side Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N199) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
    01738 - Crash Sensor for Front Airbag; Drivers Side (G283) 
                010 - Open or Short to Plus - MIL ON
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| User\3C0-953-569.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C5 953 501 BN    HW: 5K0 953 569 AB
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
       Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20110927100793
       Coding: 0182250000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00020
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
       ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
       VCID: 72EC646DA529A5DF9F-8026
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 B    HW: 3C8 959 537 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAP  H4  0021 
       Coding: E20000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 3C0 920 971 R    HW: 3C0 920 971 R
       Component: KOMBI         H05 0110  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 160F00
       Shop #: WSC 70885 001 00001
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 3460A2759FBDEBEF4D-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 3C0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 907 530 E    HW: 3C0 907 951 
       Component: J533__Gateway   H10 0080  
       Revision:   H10       Serial number: 1200P07C110958
       Coding: F9807F160002021003
       Shop #: WSC 70885 001 00001
       VCID: 23425129E2537C57A4-8076
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 208
                        Mileage: 281919 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.01.09
                        Time: 22:11:14
    
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AR    HW: 3C0 959 433 AR
       Component:    IMMO         043 0383  
       Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00545 210 88561
       VCID: 7AFC4C4D3559DD9FD7-802E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 G
       Component:    ELV          027 0380
       3C0905861G     ELV          027 0380   
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02823 - Requirements for Locking the Steering Column Lock not met 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 208
                        Mileage: 281919 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.01.09
                        Time: 22:12:26
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 Q    HW: 1K0 959 793 M
       Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1132  
       Revision: 31008001    Serial number: 00000126369120
       Coding: 0000695
       Shop #: WSC 54764 755 70000
       VCID: 3C708A557FED23AF85-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
       Part No: 1K2 909 144 L
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.134 H07 1806  
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
       VCID: 35669F715CC7F2E77A-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 959 433 AR    HW: 3C0 959 433 AR
       Component:    KSG PQ46 ELV 043 0612  
       Revision: 00043000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Coding: 18910A0001860E7630041C1D70085FCE107C01
       Shop #: WSC 54764 755 70000
       VCID: 7AFC4C4D3559DD9FD7-802E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D
       Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H08 9001
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 A
       Component: Neigungssensor  002 0508
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 A
       Component: Innenraumueberw.002 0508
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 Q    HW: 1K0 959 792 M
       Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1132  
       Revision: 31008001    Serial number: 00000027169123
       Coding: 0000694
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
       VCID: 3D76875164F72AA7B2-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3C0-907-801-53.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 907 801 B    HW: 3C0 907 801 B
       Component: EPB  VC8HC001   013 0001  
       Revision:   013       
       Coding: 0000012
       Shop #: WSC 70885 001 00001
       VCID: 214E5B21F84F6E47B6-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 3TD 035 156     HW: 3TD 035 156 
       Component: RadioSK46MID  006 0010  
       Coding: 01000424041000
       Shop #: WSC 00078 790 00000
       VCID: 7F0ABD59EE7BF8B7E0-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 P    HW: 1K0 959 795 G
       Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1113  
       Revision: 11005001    Serial number: 00000000426810
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
       VCID: 3D76875164F72AA7B2-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 P    HW: 1K0 959 794 G
       Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1113  
       Revision: 11005001    Serial number: 00000000524634
       Coding: 0000144
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
       VCID: 3E74805D69F131BFAB-806A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
       Component: PTC-Element         0404  
       Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2D56B711B497BA2702-8078
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35) 
                014 - Defective
    
    End---------------------(Elapsed Time: -2:00, udsna)-----------------------

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    Gen3 door controllers in RHD as far as I've been able to tell there is no known eeprom data for folding.
    Need to upgrade to gen4s.
    2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|Discover Media
    2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|Full colour MFD|Quad LED tail rings| Climatronics upgrade| Dynaudio retrofit | B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|TPMS Direct|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist

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    So gen3 in rhd won’t accept the +4096 regardless?

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    The factory fitted RHD gen3 max modules certainly can as I retrofitted folding mirrors to my Octavia.

    Code:
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AA    HW: 1T0 959 701 AA
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2120  
       Coding: 0004854
    
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 S    HW: 1T0 959 702 S
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2120  
       Coding: 0005110
    They are very different SW/HW versions to your Passat which could explain it.

    I think Kamold is suggesting that some LHD versions need the EEPROM data updating to support folding but has never seen a dump for RHD versions.

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    Sorry I'm confusing things here....I'm actually talking about comfort folding from the keyfob...
    That's a known eeprom change for LHD but unknown for RHD.
    Regular folding from the mirror controls is fully supported with Gen3 modules.
    2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|Discover Media
    2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|Full colour MFD|Quad LED tail rings| Climatronics upgrade| Dynaudio retrofit | B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|TPMS Direct|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamold View Post
    Sorry I'm confusing things here....I'm actually talking about comfort folding from the keyfob...
    That's a known eeprom change for LHD but unknown for RHD.
    Regular folding from the mirror controls is fully supported with Gen3 modules.
    But that is the issue I am having. Two sets of gen 3 modules won’t accept the coding

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    It's two different issues Rhinopower.
    - Kamold is talking about direct editing of the door controller EEPROM to add 'comfort folding' on a vehicle which already has working folding mirrors.
    - Your talking about the door controllers refusing a coding change to add folding mirror support when retrofitting.

    Just to confirm, you're trying 0004791 and 0004790?

    I'm not sure what else to suggest as I'm not super familiar with the B6 so others might be able to offer more help. I believe that MAX3 door controllers should be able to support folding mirrors, did you check the pins were present when you added the mirrors?

    Kamold, RHD comfort folding certainly can be done. As per this thread I was able to tweak the EEPROM using the information from this page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by langers2k View Post
    It's two different issues Rhinopower.
    - Kamold is talking about direct editing of the door controller EEPROM to add 'comfort folding' on a vehicle which already has working folding mirrors.
    - Your talking about the door controllers refusing a coding change to add folding mirror support when retrofitting.

    Just to confirm, you're trying 0004791 and 0004790?

    I'm not sure what else to suggest as I'm not super familiar with the B6 so others might be able to offer more help. I believe that MAX3 door controllers should be able to support folding mirrors, did you check the pins were present when you added the mirrors?

    Kamold, RHD comfort folding certainly can be done. As per this thread I was able to tweak the EEPROM using the information from this page.
    Yes to confirm i have tried 4791 and 4790. I even tried coding just folding mirrors and nothing else, and still refused by the controllers

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    Did a quick google and found a few scans with identical modules with faults that look to be folding mirror related:
    - https://vwforum.ro/topic/41312-oglin...omment=2323027
    - https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...ull=1#post7951
    - https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...1#post60036148

    None of them have +4096 in their code which makes me think the coding chart *might* be incorrect for your module.

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    Coding: 0001463
    Coding: 0001462

    This coding worked for folding mirrors, so the label file is wrong

    I corrected the coding for the puddle lights etc after and mirrors still worked, but the label file saying add 4096 is incorrect

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