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    7-Speed Direct Shift Gearbox On VCDS VS Snap-On basic settings issue for dsg

    After stripping down the dsg box and replacing a selector.
    Refitting the mechatronic and dsg box we was stuck doing basic settings for quite a while until we following instructions from Snapon Verus instead of vcds.

    We followed the following page: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...rbox_(DSG/0AM)

    Basic Setting
    Prerequisites:
    No Fault Codes stored in the TCM
    Temperature 30C - 60C. The Measuring Block value for G510 is found in group 011.1
    Selector Lever in P
    Ignition ON, Engine OFF
    Parking brake applied
    Brake Pedal operated (hold for the whole procedure)
    Throttle Pedal not operated
    See the Special Notes if the Mechatronic unit needs to be replaced.

    NOTE: Be sure to perform the following steps in the sequence shown, followed by the defined test drive.

    [Select]
    [02 - Transmission]
    [Basic Settings - 04]
    Group 060
    [Go!]
    [ON/OFF/Next] may be necessary
    The live data should display 4 | 0 | 0 in Basic Settings. This may take up to 2 -to- 5 minutes.
    After the 4 | 0 | 0 results are displayed, start the engine immediately and allow it to idle. If 4 | 0 | 0 is not shown do NOT start the engine, something is wrong with the procedure or the transmission.
    It is normal for the transmission to make noise while the tolerances are adapting. Do not exit or abort the Basic Settings sequence prematurely if you hear clacking noises. This is similar to the 02E 6-Speed DSG.
    The live data should display 254 | 0 | 0 to confirm a successful Basic Settings after 3 -to- 6 minutes.
    254 | 7 | 0 alone would Not be complete yet and 255 | 0 | 0 would indicate the basic settings was interrupted or failed.
    [Done, Go Back]
    Switch off Ignition, wait for a few seconds and switch it back on.
    [Fault Codes - 02]
    Check and clear any fault codes.
    [Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
    Perform the Defined Test Drive below.

    Following the above we couldn't get the box to select any gear at the stage of 255 | 0 | 0 was successful, ign off and check for fault codes (none present at any stage)
    We tried to drive and was unable to still select gears.

    We did this loads of times times without any success.

    The Snapon Verus we did only 1 time and at the 255 | 0 | 0 it was successful and we could select gears immediately.

    We was a little shocked to find we could get the procedure to work with VCDS and it worked with Snap-on.

    Has anyone else come across this issue?

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    Can we get a scan from this car to see the exact TCM please?

    You say, "until we following instructions from Snapon Verus". How did those instructions differ from ours?

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    Code:
    Friday,09,August,2019,14:06:55:06086
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: VSSZZZ5PZER002765   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 82260km-51113mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 5P-SE35 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 69
              72
    
    VIN: VSSZZZ5PZER002765   Mileage: 82260km-51113miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 023 LJ    HW: 03L 906 023 KL
       Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H43 9977  
       Revision: --H43---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 00254016032500080000
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LJ 003013
       ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997557A.rod
       VCID: 79F93331F8CE9487DE-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
       Part No SW: 0AM 300 057 S    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
       Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 4510  
       Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501305105706
       Coding: 0000020
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 408F9ED51394054FD9-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
       Revision: 00H31001    
       Coding: 233F4012092200FCC41202EA901E0081350000
       Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
       VCID: 7DF12721E4E6A8A7F2-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5P0 907 044 T    HW: 5P0 907 044 T
       Component: Climatronic   H19 0909  
       Revision: 00001001    
       Coding: 0000000002
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SE35.rod
       VCID: 41899BD1D09E0C47D6-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 AB    HW: 1K0 937 086 AB
       Component: BCM PQ35  M+  112 0771  
       Revision: AF112771    
       Coding: 46180A388025B0E04288008095008104425119A8527D81605C8040000040
       Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
       VCID: 70EF0E15A3B4D5CF69-8024
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5P0 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 21051  26  0611 
       Coding: 00DB90
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1P0 955 559 A    HW: 1P0 955 559 A  Labels: 1P0-955-559.CLB
       Component: REGENLICHTSEN  H04 0003 
       Coding: 02542E
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 5P0 951 171 C
       Component: Innenraumuebe  009 4865 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 3C8-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 5P0 919 475 B    HW: 8P0 919 475 M
       Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H08 0008  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 36861317000586
       Coding: 010103
       Shop #: WSC 01130 210 66681
       VCID: 3A7BEC3DB5485F9F97-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
       Component: S9 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
       Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD2ZK5L3  
       Coding: 0021305
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 3D71E721646668A7B2-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME7C736D16Q
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME7A255809I
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME2F5B2753H
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME2F5B341DM
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 AT    HW: 5K0 953 569 B
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140  
       Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20130503201909
       Coding: 188A140002
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
       ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
       VCID: 7EF3202DE1E0B3BFEB-802A
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1P0 959 538 D    HW: 1P0 959 538 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAP  H02 0103 
       Coding: E20000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 1P0 920 950 R    HW: 1P0 920 950 R
       Component: KOMBI         H01 0809  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 410B01
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
       VCID: 3C77EA25B77C61AF85-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AK    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
       Component: J533  Gateway H57 1642  
       Revision:   H57       Serial number: 040613F1003420
       Coding: 358203
       Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
       VCID: 79F93331F0CE9487DE-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H01 0809  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6ADB1C7D8D682F1F27-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 6J0 035 342 G    HW: 6J0 035 342 G
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7664855765    
       Coding: 020100
       Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
       VCID: 285F26755BE4DD0FF1-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
       Part No SW: 5P0 035 191 Q    HW: 5P0 035 191 Q
       Component: RNS315-EU   H70 0407  
       Serial number: SEZAZ2N0332460
       Coding: 040004010401000000000002
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
       ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
       VCID: 3979F331B84E54879E-806C
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 
       Component: EUR_W_V4  0050 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 C
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0506  
       Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0006830526
       Coding: 0012B0
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
       VCID: 6DD11761BC86382742-8038
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 704 D    HW: 3C0 959 794 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  009 1501 
       Serial number: 00000007957643      
       Coding: 000290
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 65     3501  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 3979F331704E54879E-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 3C8 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 C
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0506  
       Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0006848081
       Coding: 0012B0
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
       VCID: 6ED3106DB180C33F7B-803A
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 703 D    HW: 3C0 959 795 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  009 1501 
       Serial number: 00000007989996      
       Coding: 000290
    
    1 Fault Found:
    66562 - Heated Exterior Mirror 
              B11F8 14 [009] - Open or Short to Ground
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 221
                        Mileage: 82264 km
                        Date: 2019.08.08
                        Time: 02:56:16
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
       Component: ConWysTrailer H07 0100  
       Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 00000132425721
       Coding: 0100000100000000
       Shop #: WSC 00007 223 174336
       VCID: 306FCE15633495CF29-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:59)--------------------------

    Auto scan posted above.

    Edit:Sorry I didn't mean until following instructions from Snap-on.
    To clarify instructions was the same, but it wouldn't allow us to select a gear and dash would state put in "P".

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