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Thread: Upgrade of a midline 5K0-953-569-C SWCM to a highline module - which one to use?

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    Thanks Dana / Petar001 / Golfi_vend for your inputs. I'll try to get a full VCDS scan of the Tiguan eventually and will update this post with it.

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    Control Module Variant G85 MFD CCS MFSW AT
    5K0-953-569 Midline No Yes Yes No Yes
    5K0-953-569-A Highline No Yes No Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-B Highline No TBD Yes Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-C Midline No Yes Yes No No
    5K0-953-569-D Highline No TBD No Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-E Highline No Yes Yes Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-F Midline Yes Yes Yes No Yes
    5K0-953-569-G Highline Yes Yes No Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-H Highline Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-J Midline Yes Yes Yes No No
    5K0-953-569-K Highline Yes TBD No Yes No
    5K0-953-569-L Highline Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-R Highline Yes Yes Yes No Yes
    5K0-953-569-S Highline Yes Yes No Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-T*see note Highline Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-AA Midline Yes Yes Yes No Yes
    5K0-953-569-AB Highline Yes Yes Yes Yes No
    5K0-953-569-AC Midline No Yes Yes No Yes
    5K0-953-569-AD Highline No Yes No Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-AE Highline No Yes Yes Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-AF Midline No Yes Yes No No
    5K0-953-569-AG Highline No Yes No Yes No
    5K0-953-569-AH Highline No Yes Yes Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-AJ Midline Yes Yes Yes No Yes
    5K0-953-569-AK Highline Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-AL Highline Yes Yes Yes* Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-AM Midline Yes Yes Yes No No
    5K0-953-569-AN Highline Yes Yes No Yes No
    5K0-953-569-AP Highline Yes Yes Yes Yes No
    5K0-953-569-AR Highline Yes Yes No Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-AS Highline Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-BA Highline Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-BB Midline Yes Yes Yes No No
    5K0-953-569-BC Highline No Yes No Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-BD Highline No Yes Yes Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-BE Midline No Yes Yes No Yes
    5K0-953-569-BF Highline No Yes Yes Yes No
    5K0-953-569-BG Highline No Yes Yes Yes No


    5K0-953-569-AK may support 8T2 - Cruise control system (CCS) electronic with 2ZH Leather multi-function steering wheel controls. That should be cruise control via MFSW buttons but feel free to post in our forum if needed.
    **Even if module does support CCS, older ECU doesn't support communication with this module and CCS doesn't work even if retrofitted and coded, so no go.
    There are 3 kind of services
    GOOD CHEAP FAST
    But you can only choose 2:
    GOOD and CHEAP won't be FAST
    FAST and GOOD won't be CHEAP
    CHEAP and FAST won't be GOOD

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    Hi Muhamed,

    Thanks for the contributions over in the Eos thread. I updated 5K0-953-569-E but I missed this when doing so.

    I'll take a look at the scans we have from 5K0-953-569-AK but if you happen to have a scan, or car-specific failed retrofit feedback, don't hesitate to post it here.

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    NP Dana, I have cross check all of the data from wiki and updated it in post above...
    I don't have a scan, but I have failed a retrofit with brand new steering wheel from polo and AK module which does support GRA MFSW but, in the end we gave up and decided it's not worth it to play with ECU just to be able to activate cruise control from mfsw

    5K0 953 549 R, S, T, AA, AB, AQ, AR, AS, AT, BA only these models support PQ46 ESCL and won't cause DTC: 02823 - Requirements for Locking the Steering Column Lock not met.

    Sorry for hijacking thread...
    Last edited by m87a; 02-17-2020 at 03:25 PM. Reason: Additional data added
    There are 3 kind of services
    GOOD CHEAP FAST
    But you can only choose 2:
    GOOD and CHEAP won't be FAST
    FAST and GOOD won't be CHEAP
    CHEAP and FAST won't be GOOD

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    Thanks. I came up with conflicting info on 5K0-953-569-AK. Most were vehicles with MK6 (LIN 2.0) MFSW steering wheels without CCS. One 2016 (7N235Y) Sharan had 8T2 CCS .. but I don't have permission to post that scan. The short of it was:

    Code:
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CUVC)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 04L 906 016 BL    HW: 04L 907 309 K
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H20 1735  
       Coding: 011D001A042411082000
    
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.lbl
       Part No SW: 02E 300 063 B    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
       Component: GSG DSG AG6     531 4902  
    
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 CD    HW: 5N0 614 109 CD
       Component: ESC-EBC460iV1 H10 0012  
    
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 T    HW: 5K0 937 086 T
       Component: BCM PQ35 M    122 0183  
    
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 CP    HW: 5K0 953 569 AK
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0180  
       Coding: 1982440008
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 A    HW: 6C0 959 442 A
       Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H04 0019 
       Coding: 280000
    
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 R    HW: 5N1 909 148 J
       Component: J500__APA-BS KL.324 1401
    A handful were retrofits or wrong new parts including a crash repaired 2015 GLI with Mk7 type wheel and inoperative CCS functions (likely due to wring parts) so I'm conflicted on that one.

    I'll go through your list and make some edits to that page in the meanwhile.

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    No worries about hijacking the thread. We can always split this off to another thread but I'm subscribed to this one already and the e-mail reminders help me stay on top of new contributions.

    I edited the Part Number 5K0-953-569 section of that page again. Feedback/corrections welcome. I figured the easiest way to note PQ46 ESCL was with a new column.

    The ones I left alone are:
    *5K0-953-569-AK
    No* with a note is prob best so we don't encourage anyone to buy and install it. We can always revisit that part number later.

    * 5K0-953-569-AQ
    and
    * 5K0-953-569-AT
    I don't have scans from either of those part numbers and they weren't in the Wiki list. I can check the parts catalog, forums, etc ... and update as needed.


    AQ and AT added as of 2/19/2020
    Last edited by Dana; 02-19-2020 at 08:39 AM.

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    Ok no problem, glad to help, yes I agree about AK, no issues there.
    Control Module Variant G85 MFD CCS MFSW AT PQ45 ESCL
    5K0-953-569-AQ TBD Yes Yes No No Yes Yes
    5K0-953-569-AT TBD Yes Yes No No No Yes

    I have been informed by TinyQ that this is his data and that it's copied and that it's incorrect, I'm waiting for his confirmation and permission.
    All the credits to TinyQ
    Last edited by m87a; 02-20-2020 at 10:16 AM. Reason: credits given to TinyQ
    There are 3 kind of services
    GOOD CHEAP FAST
    But you can only choose 2:
    GOOD and CHEAP won't be FAST
    FAST and GOOD won't be CHEAP
    CHEAP and FAST won't be GOOD

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