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    Help please BCM upgrade, indicators and windows not working.

    Hi guys,

    hoping someone can help, I have a 2013 T5 Transporter and I'm changing from an 086 BCM, but I'm having issues with the replacement, I've bought an 090 version but when it's installed I have no power windows and no indicators, when testing I can get the system to turn on the indicators but not the windows.

    I'm not 100% that the BCM was actually out of a T5 previously but I'm hoping that it isn't goosed

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks, Tim.

    Here is my original 086 BCM Scan

    Code:
    VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZDH124033   License Plate: VAN 086 BCM
    Mileage: 177940km-110566mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 56 0B
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZDH124033   Mileage: 177940km-110566miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAAC)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 019 GH    HW: 03L 907 309 M
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H45 5576  
       Revision: 26H45---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 01194012230400080000
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019GH 003003
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019FM_003.rod
       VCID: 77ABE8B21F41696FFB3-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 K    HW: 7E0 907 379 E
       Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0110  
       Revision: 00H43001    
       Coding: 508724AD89A60A9924A29174A96110
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 49152
       VCID: 3A2D31866C53B407C4D-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
       Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 BN    HW: 7E5 907 047 BN
       Component: Climatic-T5   H20 0505  
       Revision: 00001010    
       Coding: 0000000002
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
       ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
       VCID: 7CA1F79E26674A37961-8028
    
    1 Fault Found:
    13701456 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
              U1111 00 [008] - -
              [Steuergerät im Schalttafeleinsatz - kein Signal/Kommunikation]
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 12
                        Reset counter: 112
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 7H0 937 086 K    HW: 7H0 937 086 
       Component: BCM T5GPM++4  H32 0407  
       Revision: BM032001    Serial number: 0532 109130782
       Coding: E0A0393A0A212011002008102C2B8C540010430F60060000320000000000
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
       VCID: 3B23348263698D0FDFB-806E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 B    HW: 7E0 959 801 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 3313 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 010000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 B    HW: 7E0 959 802 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 3313 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 000000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
       Component: VW10Airbag009 H07 0013  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL00H9LRT
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003039
       Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
       VCID: 353722BA45CD5B7F29F-8060
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9437211 - Igniter for Driver's Airbag 
              B1000 1B [136] - Resistance Too High
              MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 7E0 920 960 G    HW: 7E0 920 960 G
       Component: KOMBI         H06 0605  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 460201
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 2D070ADAAD9D13BF51F-8078
    
    1 Fault Found:
    12664832 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
              U1111 00 [008] - -
              [Steuergerät für BCM / Bordnetz / el. ZE: keine Kommunikation]
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 112
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 086 
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H32 0407  
       Revision: BM032001    
       Coding: 042300
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 00000
       VCID: 70B9D3AE7AAF3E573A9-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H06 0605  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6A8DC1C65CF3C48774D-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio
    Cannot be reached
    And the 090 BCM

    Code:
    VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZDH124033   License Plate: VAN 090 BCM
    Mileage: 177940km-110566mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 56 77 0B
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZDH124033   Mileage: 177940km-110566miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    77-Telephone -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAAC)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CAA.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 019 GH    HW: 03L 907 309 M
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H45 5576  
       Revision: 26H45---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 01194012230400080000
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019GH 003003
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906019FM_003.rod
       VCID: 77ABE8B21F41696FFB3-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 K    HW: 7E0 907 379 E
       Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0110  
       Revision: 00H43001    
       Coding: 508724AD89A60A9924A29174A96110
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 49152
       VCID: 3A2D31866C53B407C4D-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
       Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 BN    HW: 7E5 907 047 BN
       Component: Climatic-T5   H20 0505  
       Revision: 00001010    
       Coding: 0000000002
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
       ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
       VCID: 7CA1F79E26674A37961-8028
    
    1 Fault Found:
    13701456 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
              U1111 00 [009] - -
              [Steuergerät im Schalttafeleinsatz - kein Signal/Kommunikation]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 12
                        Reset counter: 2
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 D    HW: 7H0 937 090 
       Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0726  
       Revision: B9074001    Serial number: 0661 234140059
       Coding: E0A0393A0A212011002808102C2B8C510010430F60060000320000000000
       Shop #: WSC 05205 002 104857
       VCID: 2F3B10D2A71161AF633-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 B    HW: 7E0 959 801 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 3313 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 010000
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 B    HW: 7E0 959 802 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 3313 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 000000
    
    3 Faults Found:
    01326 - Control Module for Multi-Function Steering Wheel (J453) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 2
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 5
                        Reset counter: 2
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 5
                        Reset counter: 2
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
       Component: VW10Airbag009 H07 0013  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL00H9LRT
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003039
       Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
       VCID: 353722BA45CD5B7F29F-8060
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9437211 - Igniter for Driver's Airbag 
              B1000 1B [136] - Resistance Too High
              MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 7E0 920 960 G    HW: 7E0 920 960 G
       Component: KOMBI         H06 0605  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 460201
       Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 2D070ADAAD9D13BF51F-8078
    
    2 Faults Found:
    12664832 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
              U1111 00 [009] - -
              [Steuergerät für BCM / Bordnetz / el. ZE: keine Kommunikation]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 2
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
    13638912 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
              U1111 00 [009] - -
              [Steuergerät für Lenkhilfe: keine Kommunikation]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 2
                        Mileage: 0 km
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:00
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0726  
       Revision: B9074001    
       Coding: 702300
       Shop #: WSC 05205 002 104857
       VCID: 70B9D3AE7AAF3E573A9-8024
    
    3 Faults Found:
    01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 2
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 2
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    00381 - Databus Instrument Cluster 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 2
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H06 0605  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6A8DC1C65CF3C48774D-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone
    Cannot be reached

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    ... why changing BCM? Was there something wrong with the old one or you just want some new options/features the old one doesn't support?
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    Hi Mari, I'm adding cruise control and a mfsw, however I'm stuck at the first hurdle

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    I've done a cruise and MFSW upgrade in a T5 and didn't have any problems with indicators or windows....
    Happy to share what resources I have via PM.
    There are wiring changes required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamold View Post
    I've done a cruise and MFSW upgrade in a T5 and didn't have any problems with indicators or windows....
    Happy to share what resources I have via PM.
    There are wiring changes required.
    Thanks Kamold, I have a genuine VW retro fit kit which includes the instructions and all wiring, but I appreciate the offer, just got to get the damn BCM to work first.

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    I realize you only tweaked a few bits specific to the MFSW but does that new BCM function properly when you put your entire factory (original) condition coding in it?

    Also, have you swapped the BCM back over to make sure that functionality is OK with the original unit? Doing so would confirm there isn't a fuse/wiring problem unrelated to the used BCM itself.

    Providing the original coding string has the same results and the vehicle is OK with the original module I wonder if the new used BCM is wrong or faulty. 7H0 937 090 D had 100 possible index codes! That means it could be from a vehicle that wasn't configured for power windows ... or any number of equipment discrepancies which may even be parameter related rather than coding.

    If you have the original condition coding of the BCM before changes it may help determine the original vehicle type. If you don't have a saved scan take a look at the 1st instance of 7H0 937 090 D in your CodingLog.CSV file.

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    I suspect as Dana said the BCM you have isn't configured for electric windows. I just scanned my van (2010 T5.1) and I fitted a 7H0 937 087D
    This supports all the functions I already had plus the MFSW I fitted, cruise and cornering lights.
    As I understood the 087 BCM is a highline unit.
    Last edited by racofuy; 08-16-2019 at 05:22 PM. Reason: add more info

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    Quote Originally Posted by racofuy View Post
    I suspect as Dana said the BCM you have isn't configured for electric windows. I just scanned my van (2010 T5.1) and I fitted a 7H0 937 087D
    This supports all the functions I already had plus the MFSW I fitted, cruise and cornering lights.
    As I understood the 087 BCM is a highline unit.
    I could understand the windows bit, but all cars have indicators, you wouldn't think so looking at how some people drive

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    Hi Dana, thanks for your response, I have answered your questions below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    I realize you only tweaked a few bits specific to the MFSW but does that new BCM function properly when you put your entire factory (original) condition coding in it?

    It appears that everything other than the indicators and windows work fine.

    Also, have you swapped the BCM back over to make sure that functionality is OK with the original unit? Doing so would confirm there isn't a fuse/wiring problem unrelated to the used BCM itself.

    Yes I have swapped back to the original BCM and everything is fine.

    Providing the original coding string has the same results and the vehicle is OK with the original module I wonder if the new used BCM is wrong or faulty. 7H0 937 090 D had 100 possible index codes! That means it could be from a vehicle that wasn't configured for power windows ... or any number of equipment discrepancies which may even be parameter related rather than coding.

    If you have the original condition coding of the BCM before changes it may help determine the original vehicle type. If you don't have a saved scan take a look at the 1st instance of 7H0 937 090 D in your CodingLog.CSV file.
    I didn't save a copy before I changed it over but as advised I have found the original long codes of the 090 BCM as per below:

    Address 9

    From - 7D980B0000010000000809302E0B0C800F00400F6002004002 0000004000

    To - E0A0393A0A212011002008102C2B8C540010430F6006000032 0000000000

    Address 19 - Long coding

    From - 322300

    To - 702300

    Address 19 - Installation List

    From - 7D221F000000

    To - 7D021F000000

    Hopefully this will be of help.

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    Hello Timmy. I see you upgrade to max BCM. You need to run wires to make everything work ok. You need to make new wires for Instrument and also Supply for bcm.

    For instrument to need 2 new canbus wires. If im right from instrument 28 (canhigh) and 29 (canlow) ———> connector b 54 (canhigh) and 57 (canlow)

    For supply need run 2 wires from a63 and b68 to steady plus. Try do this an report.

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