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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    NP just thought you would of knew what I was making reference too, remember this is not a new user section, so I usually am thinking guys here have some experience and is why I break stones to a degree.
    The WD should be observed and wiggle tests done with load light for G85 before condemned, maybe even overlay of tracks.
    Hi Jack, thanks for your understanding and your help. I'm going through things in an orderly fashion and documenting results. Can you clarify what you mean by "maybe even overlay of tracks" please? I'm with you up to that point.

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    Test overlay is where you make up your own sets of wires to isolate the harness from module to sensor for tracks using a WD, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Test overlay is where you make up your own sets of wires to isolate the harness from module to sensor for tracks using a WD, no?
    Understood, thanks. Yes, I'm using the erwin supplied WD. In going through some troubleshooting steps this afternoon I was manipulating wires going to G85 (started inside the car and worked my way out) with no observed affect on ABS communications or meas block values for the steering sensor. When I started fiddling with J104 on the ABS controller I immediately lost comms with the ABS controller. In manipulating the harness I was able to consistently affect the communications between the ABS controller and VCDS. No affect on the meas blocks though. I then took the connector cover off J104 and wiggled wires in their while observing the computer. At one point with the connector cover off I had a condition where ABS comms were lost but the G85 sensor errors had cleared (I'm guessing no comms means it couldn't read that sensor?) and no other faults existed anywhere else except for my pre-existing license plate light fault. It is worth noting that I have the original BCM installed at this time which I had done just to see if there was any possible correlation with the errors I had seen on it initially. It comes up exactly the same as the replacement. Calling it a day I buttoned the cover up on J104, put a zip tie back on it and I was right back where I had started the day - G85 faults. Latest scan is below, original BCM installed but otherwise not much new.

    So I guess the question is: Wiring harness, connector or ABS controller? The "track overlay" idea sounds quite compelling to me but not sure if that's something I'm equipped to do.

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    Monday,19,August,2019,19:12:57:23170
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAULC68E05A114733   License Plate: TONY A4
    Mileage: 274950km-170846mi   Repair Order: 8_19_19 scan4 original BCM
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
              67 69 75 76 77
     
    VIN: WAULC68E05A114733   Mileage: 274950km-170846miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06B-909-518-AMB.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 909 518 BC    HW: 8E0 909 018 A
       Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0020  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ6Z0D0371349
       Coding: 0016751
       Shop #: WSC 11111 111 45799
       VCID: 72BDDAB038BA89B7CCD-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0110 1101
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 927 156 AA
       Component: AG5 01V 1.8l5VT USA 0505  
       Coding: 0001002
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 6D87C9CC2184564F11F-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 614 517 A
       Component: ABS/ESP allrad      4529  
       Coding: 04277
       Shop #: WSC 12345  
       VCID: 2615F6E0C1F2A517905-51CE
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                35-00 - -
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 820 043 AD
       Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   1424  
       Coding: 00000
       Shop #: WSC 06325  
       VCID: 6393AFF4F240103FB7B-513C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 907 279 F
       Component: int. Lastmodul  USA 0517  
       Coding: 00003
       Shop #: WSC 11111  
       VCID: 353721AC0C54DE8F29F-4B00
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X) 
                57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 959 655 K
       Component: Airbag 8.4EP        1001  
       Coding: 0010607
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 3FDB43843B6814DFF33-5184
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 953 549 N
       Component: Lenks·ulenmodul     0611  
       Coding: 01041
       Shop #: WSC 11111  
       VCID: 3E253E8039621DD7F85-4B00
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 920 950 P
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D42  
       Coding: 01231
       Shop #: WSC 03131  
       VCID: 363526A01152D597205-5160
       WAULC68E05A114733     AUZ6Z0D0371349
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No: 8E0 959 433 BB
       Component: Komfortger·t T7B    1612  
       Coding: 11788
       Shop #: WSC 06325  
       VCID: 72BDDAB03DBA89B7CCD-4B00
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801
       Component: Tırsteuer.FS BRM 0205  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802E
       Component: Tırsteuer.BF BRM 0205  
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
       Component: Tırsteuer.HL BRM 0205  
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
       Component: Tırsteuer.HR BRM 0205  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 05:48, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.7V. VIgn 11.6V)-----
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    1 Fault Found:
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30
    35-00 - -
    I'm thinking you should check for power........
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    I've checked power for the abs controller on j104 (pins 2, 6, & 23 if memory serves) is there another place I should be checking? Perhaps the referenced terminal 30?

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    Post the WD and let's have a look together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbez View Post
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 614 517 A
    Component: ABS/ESP allrad 4529
    Coding: 04277
    Shop #: WSC 12345
    VCID: 2615F6E0C1F2A517905-51CE

    1 Fault Found:
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30
    35-00 - -
    If this is all you have, do the figure 8, down the road, figure 8 test drive. Often times it will clear out with that. If not, then as per Jack, you will need to dig into the wiring.
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    Did anyone think this might be ignition switch related?
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    Thanks gents, I will have time to do the figure-8 this evening and then if necessary post the WD per Jack (have to figure out how to post pics first...). Jack, nobody has suggested ignition switch yet. How would I test/confirm that?

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    RTFB using WD & proper measuring equipment or replacing it, no?
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