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    2016 Tiguan S - Did I Change ATF Correctly?

    Hello,

    I have three questions for the community, highlighted in bold below.

    First, the basics: 2016 Tiguan S with 4-motion, 2.0L 6-speed automatic transmission. I had the Stage I ECU upgrade installed from APR set at 93 Octane. Odometer is currently at 42,000 miles.

    I just followed all the steps to change the ATF:
    - Took out the drain plug and stand pipe and drained the old ATF
    - Removed ATF pan, replaced filter and gasket, reinstalled
    - Put the stand pipe back in
    - Pumped in about 5-6 quarts of ATF
    - Had the wife start the car and start cycling through R, D, S, and manual mode 1 and 2, and back to park
    - As she cycled through I pumped in another quart
    - After she cycled twice she left it in park with engine running and foot on the brake
    - When VCDS displayed 40 degrees Celsius ATF temperature, I removed the pump adapter and let the ATF trickle back out
    - When it stopped trickling and only lightly drizzled I replaced the drain plug with a new crush washer
    - Car in park, I checked for leaks
    - Drove the car around and parked it again, engine running, checked for leaks again

    Question 1: Did I do that all right?
    Question 2: If I screwed it up, how will I know? Will the shifting start to act funny? Will the ATF temperature exceed a certain temperature while driving? Will everything seem fine and then BAM! the tranny explodes while my wife is driving our daughter?

    When I test drove it the shifting seemed totally fine. The ATF temperature never exceeded 60 degrees Celsius during my short test run.

    I ran the auto scan while parked with engine running after the test run.

    Question 3: Why is there a malfunction in Central Electronics (Line 9)? Could it have something to do with APR installing a custom flash for the ECU?

    I would sincerely appreciate any insight into my three questions. I am but a humble DIY guy trying to save money by doing my own maintenance. I was dumbfounded when I found out the procedure for my vehicle.

    Thank you,

    Theo


    Code:
    Wednesday,07,August,2019,17:46:38:43947
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVGBV7AX3GW577137   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: AX-VW36 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 2B 42 44 46 4C 52 53 5F
              62 72
    
    VIN: WVGBV7AX3GW577137   Mileage: 68930km-42831miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels:. 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
       Part No SW: 06J 906 027 JP    HW: 06J 907 309 A
       Component: MED17.5.2 TFSI 2 06 1335  
       Revision: P3H08---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0423010A190F0160
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 025D8A716805ABA7DCD-8056
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
       Part No SW: 09G 927 750 NK    HW: 09G 927 750 NK
       Component: AQ 250 6F           2627  
       Revision: 00H97000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000840
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 074B9B6543278E8F8B3-8052
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 BN    HW: 5N0 614 109 BN
       Component: J104   C6 450M VDF7 0021  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000009076993
       Coding: 0005161
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 78A9E8993ED9F177F29-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434 
       Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202  
       Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0389948687
       Coding: 030C0C
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
       ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW31.rod
       VCID: 372B2BA57FC73E0F3B3-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 561 907 426 G    HW: 561 907 426 G
       Component: AC Manuell    H03 0506  
       Revision: 00001K02    
       Coding: 0010001002
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManuaElectGen2BHTC 001002
       ROD: EV_ACManuaElectGen2BHTC_VW36.rod
       VCID: 1F1BE305F737664FD33-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 084 N    HW: 5K0 937 084 N
       Component: BCM PQ35 B    122 0183  
       Revision: BG122001    
       Coding: EF1A0A1B80232EC4008800C11400044448510086566D8DF064800000A040
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3D27398D5D7B145FE1F-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N1 955 119 B    HW: 5N1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS316 301115  24  0664 
       Coding: 009795
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
       Component: RLS 221215 05  54  0403 
       Coding: 02304D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 AB    HW: 5N0 959 655 AB
       Component: J234__005 VW10 HI   5418  
       Revision: 36023000    Serial number: 003MAPRJW2R   
       Coding: 0012341
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 7DA7F98D11FBD45FA1F-8028
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N0 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 003 0001
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 0000000000RLSP
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0026.10.150000300000650008˙†63
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 650008˙†6332MTS605663125+˙†63
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63125+˙†6342MTS6074931252˙†63
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 931252˙†6351HTS6MPLA4EKJF˙†63
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: A4EKJF˙†6361HTS69R1P1EKR5˙†63
    
       Subsystem 8 - Serial number: P1EKR5˙†63727TS6JEIPSDKJT˙†63
    
       Subsystem 9 - Serial number: PSDKJT˙†63827TS6HH3C3EKJM˙
    
       Subsystem 10 - Serial number: C3EKJM˙
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 DM    HW: 5K0 953 569 AP
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0180  
       Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20151211300400
       Coding: 1102140000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
       ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
       VCID: 78A9E8993259F177F29-802C
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0037 
       Serial number: 0933302             
       Coding: 820000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 973 L    HW: 5N0 920 973 L
       Component: KOMBI         H04 1008  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 211F010000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05730
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
       VCID: 3D27398D5DFB145FE1F-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AT    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
       Component: J533  Gateway H57 1663  
       Revision:   H57       Serial number: 131215F1001318
       Coding: 356022
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 025D8A716405ABA7DCD-8056
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
       Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 J    HW: 0CQ 525 130 
       Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7540  
       Serial number: HA1-00013.11.15
       Coding: 0001
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002015
       ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X.rod
       VCID: 52FD7A31F465FB272CD-8006
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 1008  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000007
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6A8DC2D17CF553E774D-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 C    HW: 5K0 905 861 C
       Component: ELV-PQ35      H21 0240  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 15000260863003
       Coding: 4900000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
       ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
       VCID: 303910B99AA9E9377A9-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 H    HW: 3C0 959 793 H
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0601  
       Revision: 13100010    Serial number: 0010169822
       Coding: 0004B4
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04004
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 3A2D32914CD52367C4D-806E
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 G    HW: 3C0 959 794 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  010 1505 
       Serial number: 00000009635653      
       Coding: 000490
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 R    HW: 5N1 909 148 J
       Component: J500__APA-BS KL.285 1401  
       Revision: 1BH04841    Serial number: 00153270164201
       Coding: 0000258
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 41DF457D2D8370BF857-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 F    HW: 3C0 959 792 B
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0503  
       Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0010266599
       Coding: 0004B4
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 392F2D9D49D3287FCD7-806C
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 G    HW: 3C0 959 795 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  010 1505 
       Serial number: 00000009647861      
       Coding: 000490
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 J    HW: 3AA 907 801 J
       Component: J540 EPB4  VW-63206 0012  
       Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000980834
       Coding: 0026156
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 382928997E593177329-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
       Part No SW: 561 035 150     HW: 561 035 150 
       Component: MU-E--US      857 6495  
       Serial number: 04121500011967
       Coding: 02130600FF00000041220001001000001F0000D40000010000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001025
       ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW12.rod
       VCID: 4ACD62511C35B3E754D-801E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:22, VBatt start/end: 13.5V/13.6V)-----------
    Last edited by ttrifko2; 08-07-2019 at 05:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttrifko2 View Post
    Question 1: Did I do that all right?
    Your fluid change procedure sounds OK to me, but I can't say I've ever done that myself, so if anyone has another opinion, please chime in here.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttrifko2 View Post
    Question 3: Why is there a malfunction in Central Electronics (Line 9)? Could it have something to do with APR installing a custom flash for the ECU?
    The Gateway sometimes gets out of synch with the actual status of a module.

    Try clearing fault codes directly in 09:
    [Select]
    [09 - Cent. Elect]
    [Fault Codes]
    [Clear Codes]

    If that doesn't resolve it, go to the Auto-Scan screen and:
    [Gateway Installation List]
    [Clear all DTCs] (make sure "Use CAN Command" is checked).

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Yes you did good job on transmisiion.
    Also you need to do Haldex fluid at that miles .
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