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    New here - Retrofitting MY18 MFSW with DSG paddles to an MY13 Octavia questions

    Hello forum!

    I have looked through different topics, but I cannot get it right. That is why I open this new topic.

    I have a Skoda Octavia from '10 2013. It is a DSG-7 gear.I have since carried out many updates on the Octavia. Now I am working on a steering wheel project. Unfortunately, I have a number of questions that I cannot solve myself and try to solve with your knowledge. I have been able to buy an MFSW with flattened bottom and DSG paddles (5E0419091 BT CXA) from a 2018 Octavia. This handlebar has the VIEW button, so I would have to transfer the multifunction buttons of my current handlebar.

    Unfortunately, my current steering wheel controls have no inputs for the plugs coming from the DSG paddles.

    That's why I have to look for the same steering wheel controls as my current MFSW.

    Now my question is whether I will also need another gateway to get the new MFSW working.

    From a VCDS log of my car I can extract from line 19 that my Octavia is equipped with a can-mid (CW MQB Mid).

    Gateway SW: 5Q0907530L
    Gateway HW: 5Q0907530E

    Do I have to install a new gateway to get the DSG paddles working?
    Or should it be possible with my Octavia's current gateway?

    According to the link below it is said that these components are needed to realize an MFSW, but I already have an MFSW. The only thing that comes with it is the DSG paddles.

    https://www.cars-equipment.com/en/sh...wheel-buttons/
    1x buttons 5E0919719B
    1X gateway 5Q0907530AC
    1X multifunctional wiring 5E0971584A

    The steering wheel control from the link is the one I need for the new MFSW. This is with the DSG paddle plugs.

    Who can help me with this big issue. Any help is welcome! If needed, I can post my VCDS log into this topic.

    Thanks alot, HarrieSkoda from the Netherlands





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    Go ahead and post that VCDS log please.

    Cheers.

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    Hope with this log you can give me some information.
    If you need more of the log I can expand the log.

    Code:
    Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
    
    Part No SW: 5E0 920 861 A HW: 5E0 920 861 A
    
    Component: KOMBI 204 3390 
    
    Coding: 07AD0A082180000801087A00040000
    
    Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
    
    ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB 008011
    
    ROD: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB_008.rod
    
    VCID: 251600BF0563012FCD3-8070
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
    
    Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 L HW: 5Q0 907 530 E
    
    Component: GW MQB Mid 124 1144 
    
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 0001021580
    
    Coding: 030100042B086400EF00064C1C0F00010001000000000000000000000000
    
    Shop #: WSC 43281 001 1048576
    
    ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 009013
    
    ROD: EV_GatewLear_009.rod
    
    VCID: 3A2CC3C39CDD9ED7901-806E
    
    
    Alternator: 
    
    
    Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
    
    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 719 A HW: 5E0 919 719 A
    
    Component: E221__MFL-PR6 H04 0120 
    
    Serial number: 000000000B0883110913
    
    
    Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
    
    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 C HW: 5Q0 915 181 C
    
    Component: J367-BDMHella H03 8042 
    
    Serial number: 2228871303
    Last edited by Uwe; 08-04-2019 at 10:12 AM. Reason: QUOTE -> CODE

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    Need a complete autoscan please. Odd snippets of a couple of controllers isn't much help.

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    No problem, I'm a newbie in this kind of project I'm busy with... I'm sorry.

    I think I've got a full scan over here, correct me if I'm wrong, thanks!

    Code:
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CJZA)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04E 906 016 A    HW: 04E 907 309 A
       Component: 1.2l R4 TSI   X08 7697  
       Revision: WAX08---    
       Coding: 01250032232401080000
       Shop #: WSC 92521 052 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016A 001008
       ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016A.rod
       VCID: 201811AB1A41E407BE5-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0010 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0CW-927-769.clb
       Part No SW: 0CW 300 044 T    HW: 0AM 927 769 G
       Component: GSG DQ200-MQB H43 5299  
       Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501309156168
       Coding: 0014
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
       ROD: EV_TCMDQ200021_VW31.rod
       VCID: 49CEAC0FC93B054F09B-801C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 R    HW: 5Q0 907 379 F
       Component: EMB8 EHCB     H31 0356  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 625830000008E2
       Coding: 1C076A912427116F007D060541CA243856248800608224F000210070C009
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 033001
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_033.rod
       VCID: 4BC29607C347175F3B7-801E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    0213 - Vacuum sensor 
              C10A3 29 [008] - Signal Implausible
              [Single Vacuum Pressure Sensor sends no valid data]
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 56
                        Mileage: 118429 km
                        Date: 2018.10.13
                        Time: 16:15:50
    
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5E0 907 044     HW: 5E0 907 044 
       Component: Climatronic   H02 0604  
       Revision: 00001K06    
       Coding: 02010004000100011005004000100000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 002017
       ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_002_SK37.rod
       VCID: 629C5BA354CDB617E81-8036
    
    1 Fault Found:
    328196 - Motor for Right Temperature Flap 
              B108D 71 [008] - Actuator stuck
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 60
                        Mileage: 118661 km
                        Date: 2018.10.18
                        Time: 22:46:28
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 S    HW: 5Q0 937 084 S
       Component: BCM MQBAB M   H14 0112  
       Serial number: 00011325502178
       Coding: 0C021842424702FB47E04000011407080000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 011001
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_011.rod
       VCID: 48C8A90BD231FC47165-801C
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E1 955 119     HW: 5E1 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS371 130903  041 0570 
       Serial number:         130916055511
       Coding: 065DDD
    
       Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547     HW: 5Q0 955 547   Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
       Component: RLFS  024 0042 
       Serial number: Y13M09D18H14M50S11S1
       Coding: 02805D
    
    4 Faults Found:
    8202 - Bulb for Left DRL 
              B121D 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 77
                        Mileage: 118819 km
                        Date: 2018.10.25
                        Time: 16:20:58
    
    10762 - Bulb for Right Tail Light 
              B12BF 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 73
                        Mileage: 118918 km
                        Date: 2018.11.11
                        Time: 13:53:12
    
    12810 - Bulb for Right Back-up Light 
              B12CC 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 73
                        Mileage: 118918 km
                        Date: 2018.11.11
                        Time: 13:54:41
    
    14858 - Bulb for Right Brake Lamp / Tail Lamp 
              B133C 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 73
                        Mileage: 118918 km
                        Date: 2018.11.11
                        Time: 13:54:40
    
    
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    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 283 B    HW: 5Q0 919 283 
       Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H09 0033  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 60831326101133
       Coding: 0001150111
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 002018
       ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_002_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3828D9CBA2D18CC7665-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 959 655 AA    HW: 3Q0 959 655 AA
       Component: Airbag VW20   011 0188  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003NYPJQUASQ
       Coding: 98FCC000000000005C5400CC000800000065
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X 001116
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X.rod
       VCID: 7DA608DFCD7369EFF53-8028
    
       Belt Pretensioner left: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFL  H35 0340 
       Serial number: 34169593B24091370684
       Coding: 333135
    
       Belt Pretensioner right: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFR  H35 0340 
       Serial number: 34169592B24091370531
       Coding: 333135
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 000 909 13
       Component: SideSensor_Df  008 0887 
       Serial number: 3576U00000061798DD0M
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 001 009 13
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  008 0887 
       Serial number: 3586U000000D3051DD0E
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 409 13
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  111 0148 
       Serial number: 3516RBC8EE201000000I
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 109 13
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  111 0148 
       Serial number: 3526R420DF001000000Z
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 508 13
       Component: FrontSensor_D  114 0149 
       Serial number: 3556V7325AF010000007
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AJ    HW: 5Q0 953 549 A
       Component: Lenks. Modul  007 0070  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 23091304400511
       Coding: 1400
       Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_012_AU37.rod
       VCID: 7EA40FD3C07572F7EC9-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
       Part No SW: 5E0 920 861 A    HW: 5E0 920 861 A
       Component: KOMBI         204 3390  
       Coding: 07AD0A082180000801087A00040000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB 008011
       ROD: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB_008.rod
       VCID: 251600BF0563012FCD3-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 L    HW: 5Q0 907 530 E
       Component: GW MQB Mid    124 1144  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0001021580
       Coding: 030100042B086400EF00064C1C0F00010001000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 43281 001 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 009013
       ROD: EV_GatewLear_009.rod
       VCID: 3A2CC3C39CDD9ED7901-806E
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 719 A    HW: 5E0 919 719 A
       Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H04 0120 
       Serial number: 000000000B0883110913
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 C    HW: 5Q0 915 181 C
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8042 
       Serial number: 2228871303          
    
    1 Fault Found:
    66052 - Infotainment CAN Bus (SAE Bus E) 
              U0065 00 [008] - Performance
              [Globaler Timeout CAN-Infotainment]
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 77
                        Mileage: 118944 km
                        Date: 2018.11.14
                        Time: 16:33:11
    
                        Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 12.4 V
                        Terminal 15: OFF
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 593     HW: 5Q4 959 593 
       Component: TSG FS        007 0006  
       Serial number: 0000076270347 
       Coding: 00110120D000028000001100
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 025C7B23B48D1617881-8056
    
       Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 A    HW: 5Q0 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0004 
       Serial number: 00000000000000716496
       Coding: 010200
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 L    HW: 5Q0 909 144 M
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  127 1021  
       Coding: 01
       Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_008.rod
       VCID: 3D26C8DF8DF3A9EFB53-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q4 959 592     HW: 5Q4 959 592 
       Component: TSG BFS       007 0006  
       Serial number: 0000075766091 
       Coding: 00110120DC00028000001100
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 015E742FB18B0D0F91B-8054
    
       Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 A    HW: 5Q0 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
       Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0004 
       Serial number: 00000000000000744460
       Coding: 190200
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5E0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
       Part No SW: 5E0 035 864 A    HW: 5E0 035 864 A
       Component: MU-S-N-ER     040 0421  
       Serial number: S3F02009132071
       Coding: 03730201FF00000011110001000000002F0000940100010046
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002039
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
       VCID: 251600BF0563012FCD3-8070
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 605 D    HW: 5E0 919 605 D
       Component: ABT_Std_Nav  H50 0022 
       Serial number: SKZ8Z9NK800C3X      
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5E0 051 236     HW: -----------
       Component:  ECE 2017/18  --- 0067 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-383.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 383     HW: 5Q0 907 383 
       Component: Anheanger     H10 0030  
       Serial number: 00006789000000
       Coding: 0100000200000000
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TrailFunctDemouHella 001001
       ROD: EV_TrailFunctDemouHella.rod
       VCID: 74B02DFBFE3928A78AD-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 01:16, VBatt start/end: 11.8V/11.8V. VIgn 11.8V)-----
    Last edited by Uwe; 08-04-2019 at 04:27 PM. Reason: QUOTE -> CODE

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    Posted full scan, but nobody is replying....? Nobody knows??

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    We're still limping by after the incident so I don't have access to much info however my relatively low-spec Golf Alltrack has a factory fitted flappy paddle MK7 wheel with a GW MQB Mid 19 module. For that reason I would like to believe that yours would support the wheel as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarrieSkoda View Post
    Posted full scan, but nobody is replying....? Nobody knows??
    Why did you leave the header part out. Usually FULL, UNEDITED autoscan. You can hide the registration but otherwise don't add or remove anything from the autoscan.

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    Going to end up in hall of shame ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeromeo View Post
    Going to end up in hall of shame ��
    Nope. You can see I edited the tags on the scan and clicked LIKE on the post several days ago. You can take that to mean I looked at it and determined it's not pirated.

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