New here - Retrofitting MY18 MFSW with DSG paddles to an MY13 Octavia questions

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Hello forum!

I have looked through different topics, but I cannot get it right. That is why I open this new topic.

I have a Skoda Octavia from '10 2013. It is a DSG-7 gear.I have since carried out many updates on the Octavia. Now I am working on a steering wheel project. Unfortunately, I have a number of questions that I cannot solve myself and try to solve with your knowledge. I have been able to buy an MFSW with flattened bottom and DSG paddles (5E0419091 BT CXA) from a 2018 Octavia. This handlebar has the VIEW button, so I would have to transfer the multifunction buttons of my current handlebar.

Unfortunately, my current steering wheel controls have no inputs for the plugs coming from the DSG paddles.

That's why I have to look for the same steering wheel controls as my current MFSW.

Now my question is whether I will also need another gateway to get the new MFSW working.

From a VCDS log of my car I can extract from line 19 that my Octavia is equipped with a can-mid (CW MQB Mid).

Gateway SW: 5Q0907530L
Gateway HW: 5Q0907530E

Do I have to install a new gateway to get the DSG paddles working?
Or should it be possible with my Octavia's current gateway?

According to the link below it is said that these components are needed to realize an MFSW, but I already have an MFSW. The only thing that comes with it is the DSG paddles.

https://www.cars-equipment.com/en/s...919719b-multifunction-steering-wheel-buttons/
1x buttons 5E0919719B
1X gateway 5Q0907530AC
1X multifunctional wiring 5E0971584A

The steering wheel control from the link is the one I need for the new MFSW. This is with the DSG paddle plugs.

Who can help me with this big issue. Any help is welcome! If needed, I can post my VCDS log into this topic.

Thanks alot, HarrieSkoda from the Netherlands

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Go ahead and post that VCDS log please.

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Hope with this log you can give me some information.
If you need more of the log I can expand the log.

Code:
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3

Part No SW: 5E0 920 861 A HW: 5E0 920 861 A

Component: KOMBI 204 3390 

Coding: 07AD0A082180000801087A00040000

Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345

ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB 008011

ROD: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB_008.rod

VCID: 251600BF0563012FCD3-8070


No fault code found.


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb

Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 L HW: 5Q0 907 530 E

Component: GW MQB Mid 124 1144 

Revision: -------- Serial number: 0001021580

Coding: 030100042B086400EF00064C1C0F00010001000000000000000000000000

Shop #: WSC 43281 001 1048576

ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 009013

ROD: EV_GatewLear_009.rod

VCID: 3A2CC3C39CDD9ED7901-806E


Alternator: 


Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 719 A HW: 5E0 919 719 A

Component: E221__MFL-PR6 H04 0120 

Serial number: 000000000B0883110913


Battery Monitoring Control Module: 

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 C HW: 5Q0 915 181 C

Component: J367-BDMHella H03 8042 

Serial number: 2228871303
 
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Need a complete autoscan please. Odd snippets of a couple of controllers isn't much help.
 
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No problem, I'm a newbie in this kind of project I'm busy with... I'm sorry.

I think I've got a full scan over here, correct me if I'm wrong, thanks!

Code:
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CJZA)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04E 906 016 A    HW: 04E 907 309 A
   Component: 1.2l R4 TSI   X08 7697  
   Revision: WAX08---    
   Coding: 01250032232401080000
   Shop #: WSC 92521 052 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016A 001008
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906016A.rod
   VCID: 201811AB1A41E407BE5-8074

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0CW-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0CW 300 044 T    HW: 0AM 927 769 G
   Component: GSG DQ200-MQB H43 5299  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501309156168
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ200021_VW31.rod
   VCID: 49CEAC0FC93B054F09B-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 R    HW: 5Q0 907 379 F
   Component: EMB8 EHCB     H31 0356  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 625830000008E2
   Coding: 1C076A912427116F007D060541CA243856248800608224F000210070C009
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 033001
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_033.rod
   VCID: 4BC29607C347175F3B7-801E

1 Fault Found:
0213 - Vacuum sensor 
          C10A3 29 [008] - Signal Implausible
          [Single Vacuum Pressure Sensor sends no valid data]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 56
                    Mileage: 118429 km
                    Date: 2018.10.13
                    Time: 16:15:50


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5E0 907 044     HW: 5E0 907 044 
   Component: Climatronic   H02 0604  
   Revision: 00001K06    
   Coding: 02010004000100011005004000100000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 002017
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_002_SK37.rod
   VCID: 629C5BA354CDB617E81-8036

1 Fault Found:
328196 - Motor for Right Temperature Flap 
          B108D 71 [008] - Actuator stuck
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 60
                    Mileage: 118661 km
                    Date: 2018.10.18
                    Time: 22:46:28


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 S    HW: 5Q0 937 084 S
   Component: BCM MQBAB M   H14 0112  
   Serial number: 00011325502178
   Coding: 0C021842424702FB47E04000011407080000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 011001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_011.rod
   VCID: 48C8A90BD231FC47165-801C

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E1 955 119     HW: 5E1 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS371 130903  041 0570 
   Serial number:         130916055511
   Coding: 065DDD

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547     HW: 5Q0 955 547   Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLFS  024 0042 
   Serial number: Y13M09D18H14M50S11S1
   Coding: 02805D

4 Faults Found:
8202 - Bulb for Left DRL 
          B121D 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Mileage: 118819 km
                    Date: 2018.10.25
                    Time: 16:20:58

10762 - Bulb for Right Tail Light 
          B12BF 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 73
                    Mileage: 118918 km
                    Date: 2018.11.11
                    Time: 13:53:12

12810 - Bulb for Right Back-up Light 
          B12CC 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 73
                    Mileage: 118918 km
                    Date: 2018.11.11
                    Time: 13:54:41

14858 - Bulb for Right Brake Lamp / Tail Lamp 
          B133C 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 73
                    Mileage: 118918 km
                    Date: 2018.11.11
                    Time: 13:54:40


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 919 283 B    HW: 5Q0 919 283 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H09 0033  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 60831326101133
   Coding: 0001150111
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 002018
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_002_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3828D9CBA2D18CC7665-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 959 655 AA    HW: 3Q0 959 655 AA
   Component: Airbag VW20   011 0188  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003NYPJQUASQ
   Coding: 98FCC000000000005C5400CC000800000065
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X 001116
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X.rod
   VCID: 7DA608DFCD7369EFF53-8028

   Belt Pretensioner left: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFL  H35 0340 
   Serial number: 34169593B24091370684
   Coding: 333135

   Belt Pretensioner right: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFR  H35 0340 
   Serial number: 34169592B24091370531
   Coding: 333135

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 000 909 13
   Component: SideSensor_Df  008 0887 
   Serial number: 3576U00000061798DD0M
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 001 009 13
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  008 0887 
   Serial number: 3586U000000D3051DD0E
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 409 13
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  111 0148 
   Serial number: 3516RBC8EE201000000I
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 109 13
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  111 0148 
   Serial number: 3526R420DF001000000Z
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 454 800 508 13
   Component: FrontSensor_D  114 0149 
   Serial number: 3556V7325AF010000007
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 AJ    HW: 5Q0 953 549 A
   Component: Lenks. Modul  007 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 23091304400511
   Coding: 1400
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_012_AU37.rod
   VCID: 7EA40FD3C07572F7EC9-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5E0 920 861 A    HW: 5E0 920 861 A
   Component: KOMBI         204 3390  
   Coding: 07AD0A082180000801087A00040000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB 008011
   ROD: EV_DashBoardJCIMQBAB_008.rod
   VCID: 251600BF0563012FCD3-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 L    HW: 5Q0 907 530 E
   Component: GW MQB Mid    124 1144  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0001021580
   Coding: 030100042B086400EF00064C1C0F00010001000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 43281 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 009013
   ROD: EV_GatewLear_009.rod
   VCID: 3A2CC3C39CDD9ED7901-806E

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 719 A    HW: 5E0 919 719 A
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H04 0120 
   Serial number: 000000000B0883110913

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 C    HW: 5Q0 915 181 C
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8042 
   Serial number: 2228871303          

1 Fault Found:
66052 - Infotainment CAN Bus (SAE Bus E) 
          U0065 00 [008] - Performance
          [Globaler Timeout CAN-Infotainment]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Mileage: 118944 km
                    Date: 2018.11.14
                    Time: 16:33:11

                    Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 12.4 V
                    Terminal 15: OFF


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q4 959 593     HW: 5Q4 959 593 
   Component: TSG FS        007 0006  
   Serial number: 0000076270347 
   Coding: 00110120D000028000001100
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 025C7B23B48D1617881-8056

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 A    HW: 5Q0 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0004 
   Serial number: 00000000000000716496
   Coding: 010200

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 L    HW: 5Q0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  127 1021  
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00209
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_008.rod
   VCID: 3D26C8DF8DF3A9EFB53-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q4 959 592     HW: 5Q4 959 592 
   Component: TSG BFS       007 0006  
   Serial number: 0000075766091 
   Coding: 00110120DC00028000001100
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 015E742FB18B0D0F91B-8054

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 A    HW: 5Q0 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0004 
   Serial number: 00000000000000744460
   Coding: 190200

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5E0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
   Part No SW: 5E0 035 864 A    HW: 5E0 035 864 A
   Component: MU-S-N-ER     040 0421  
   Serial number: S3F02009132071
   Coding: 03730201FF00000011110001000000002F0000940100010046
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002039
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
   VCID: 251600BF0563012FCD3-8070

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 605 D    HW: 5E0 919 605 D
   Component: ABT_Std_Nav  H50 0022 
   Serial number: SKZ8Z9NK800C3X      

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5E0 051 236     HW: -----------
   Component:  ECE 2017/18  --- 0067 
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-383.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 383     HW: 5Q0 907 383 
   Component: Anheanger     H10 0030  
   Serial number: 00006789000000
   Coding: 0100000200000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TrailFunctDemouHella 001001
   ROD: EV_TrailFunctDemouHella.rod
   VCID: 74B02DFBFE3928A78AD-8020

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:16, VBatt start/end: 11.8V/11.8V. VIgn 11.8V)-----
 
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We're still limping by after the incident so I don't have access to much info however my relatively low-spec Golf Alltrack has a factory fitted flappy paddle MK7 wheel with a GW MQB Mid 19 module. For that reason I would like to believe that yours would support the wheel as well.
 
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Posted full scan, but nobody is replying....? Nobody knows??

Why did you leave the header part out. Usually FULL, UNEDITED autoscan. You can hide the registration but otherwise don't add or remove anything from the autoscan.
 
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Going to end up in hall of shame ��
 
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Nope. You can see I edited the tags on the scan and clicked LIKE on the post several days ago. You can take that to mean I looked at it and determined it's not pirated.

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