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    Fuel rail pressure to low (1.6 TDI P0087)

    2012 seat Ibiza 1.6TDI fuel rail pressure to low. 0087. Coil light on! Limp mode! Any ideas?

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    Hi and welcome.

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    Friday,26,July,2019,17:22:18:26536
    VCDS Version: Release 19.6.0 (x64) Running on Windows 10 x64
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
                    Address 01: Engine       Labels: 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
    Control Module Part Number: 03L 906 023 LE    HW: 03L 906 023 Q
      Component and/or Version: R4 1.6l TDI   H33 9978
               Software Coding: 00114016002500080000
                Work Shop Code: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
                  ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LE 003011 (SE25)
                           ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LL.rod
                          VCID: 74B1DDCFEE3D5527DE9-8020
    1 Fault Found:
    
    10116 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure 
              P0087 00 [232] - Too Low
              MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 8
                        Mileage: 90433 km
                        Date: 2019.07.24
                        Time: 16:59:10
    
    Engine speed: 1635.25 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 65 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 95 C
                        Intake air temperature: 29 C
                        Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 14.118 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Fuel high pressure: actual value-FUP_FIL: 103.955 MPa
                        Fuel pressure regulator valve: specified value rail pressure-LV_PCV_CTL: 00000001 
                        Fuel level-FTL_CAN: 31 l
                        Fuel temperature-TFU: 45 C
                        Fuel Metering Valve-VCV: 23.686 %
                        Fuel Pressure Regulator Valve-PCV: 53.510 %
                        Fuel high pressure commanded value_1-FUP_SP_KPA_ENVD: 129931.641 kPa
    
    
    Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0
    Last edited by Uwe; 07-26-2019 at 01:01 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Friday,26,July,2019,17:19:51:26536
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4505.4
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
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    VIN: VSSZZZ6JZCR122168   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 6J-SE25 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 2E 44 4B 56 77
    
    VIN: VSSZZZ6JZCR122168   Mileage: 90620km-56308miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    4B-Multifunc. Module -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYC)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 023 LE    HW: 03L 906 023 Q
       Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H33 9978  
       Revision: --H33---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 00114016002500080000
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LE 003011
       ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023LL.rod
       VCID: 74B1DDCFEE3D5527DE9-8020
    
    1 Fault Found:
    10116 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure 
              P0087 00 [232] - Too Low
              MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 8
                        Mileage: 90433 km
                        Date: 2019.07.24
                        Time: 16:59:10
    
     Engine speed: 1635.25 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 65 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 95 C
                        Intake air temperature: 29 C
                        Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 14.118 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Fuel high pressure: actual value-FUP_FIL: 103.955 MPa
                        Fuel pressure regulator valve: specified value rail pressure-LV_PCV_CTL: 00000001 
                        Fuel level-FTL_CAN: 31 l
                        Fuel temperature-TFU: 45 C
                        Fuel Metering Valve-VCV: 23.686 %
                        Fuel Pressure Regulator Valve-PCV: 53.510 %
                        Fuel high pressure commanded value_1-FUP_SP_KPA_ENVD: 129931.641 kPa
    
    Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0 
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ABS82.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AD    HW: 6R0 907 379 AB
       Component: ABS8.2 front  H03 0001  
       Revision: --------    
       Coding: 100200DB006F00B4082600E800D900000000
       Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
       VCID: 0059811FAA457987CA1-8054
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 6J0 820 043 C    HW: 6J0 820 043 C
       Component: Climatronic   H07 0606  
       Revision: S0000000    
       VCID: 2411ED8F1EDD85A78E9-8070
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00457 - Central Electronics Control Module / BCM (J519) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101101
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 109
                        Mileage: 90343 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.12.12
                        Time: 07:58:33
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 7H0 937 089 F    HW: 7H0 937 089 
       Component: BCM T5GP Li4  H50 0254  
       Revision: BS050001    Serial number: 0465 016120173
       Coding: 24880BE88861250093300EF06ECB8EC80F80602F608C2009200000000000
       Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
       VCID: 392F2CFB895FE84FCDF-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
       Component: RLS 010212 05  54  0403 
       Coding: 02242D
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 N    HW: 6R0 959 802 N  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 3110 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 030000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 Q    HW: 6R0 959 801 Q  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 3110 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 020000
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
       Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
       Coding: 000000
    
    
     Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005 
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
       Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 D    HW: 6R0 959 811 D
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  002 3121 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 D    HW: 6R0 959 812 D
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  002 3121 
       Serial number: --------------------
       Coding: 000000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 6J0-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 6J0 919 475 B    HW: 8P0 919 475 M
       Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H08 0008  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 36861132200647
       Coding: 000007
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SE250ParkiAssis2 S01006
       ROD: EV_SE250ParkiAssis2.rod
       VCID: 353720CBA5C70C2F297-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
       Component: VW10AirbagA0D H09 0020  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX012VZ7%
       Coding: 003044
       Shop #: WSC 06401 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
       VCID: 4ACD6337DC3973D7545-801E
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3495RRB404R126SEC20E
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3505RRB404P126SEH0T-
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 6J0 920 903 H    HW: 6J0 920 903 H
       Component: KOMBI         H02 0504  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 410A00
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK46.rod
       VCID: 2F3B12A3479B36FF63B-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 089 
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H50 0254  
       Revision: BS050001    
       Coding: 322300
       Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
       VCID: 70B9D1DF9AA569073A1-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H02 0504  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6A8DC3B7BCF993D7745-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 6J0 035 342 E    HW: 6J0 035 342 E
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7661738846    
       Coding: 020000
       Shop #: WSC 64564 324 38760
       VCID: 2615F78768E177B790D-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
       Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
       Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
       Coding: 10121
       Shop #: WSC 06402  
       VCID: 2F3B12A34E5B36FF63B-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4B: Multifunc. Module        Labels: 6J0-959-441.clb
       Part No: 6J0 959 441 A
       Component: MF-Modul       0007 0001  
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 77005 000 00000
       VCID: 313F14DB5D2F200F75F-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 6J0-035-153.clb
       Part No SW: 6J2 035 153 G    HW: 6J2 035 153 G
       Component: Radio         H15 0204  
       Revision: R0000000    Serial number: SEZAZ2L1961825
       Coding: 0005020002
       Shop #: WSC 04941 000 00000
       VCID: 2A0D03B77CF953D7B45-807E
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 F    HW: 7P6 035 730 F
       Component: TELEFON       H13 2730  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007661841208
       Coding: 0200000001010110
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA A01015
       ROD: UHVNA.rod
       VCID: 353720CBA5C70C2F297-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 02:01, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/12.5V)-----------
    Last edited by Uwe; 07-26-2019 at 01:02 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Since you have a very similar engine and exactly the same fault code, I am almost tempted to merge with this thread:
    https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?19505

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    First let me state that I am not familiar with the 1.4L TDI, but I assume that it is a common rail system similar to the similar year 2.0L system sold in the US. I have some experience with fuel pressure regulation issues. If your 1.4L TDI is not a similar common rail design, feel free to stop reading now. First a question: Is this problem solid or does the car run OK when you re-start it? I had a TDI that got fuel pressure DTC and limp mode every few hundred miles. Restart it and it was good for another few hundred miles. It was not fun to troubleshoot.
    If the problem is constant (car will not restart) it could be the HPFP. If your car uses the same dodgy Bosch CP4.2 pump we got here in the US, pull out the fuel metering valve on the top of the pump and look for metal shavings. If the screen is full of metal pieces, you have a serious (read expensive) problem. The HPFP has self destructed and spread debris throughout the entire fuel system.
    If the HPFP is OK, your 2 best options are that metering valve I mentioned above and the fuel pressure regulator valve on the fuel rail itself. I have no idea how this works in Scotland, but in the US the fuel pressure regulator valve alone costs more than a complete fuel rail assembly - which includes the valve. This makes no sense, but this is Volkswagen.

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    new to ross tech so not up to speed with how to use measuring block? Any help would be apprecited

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    continental hpfp, valve side mounted so can't remove without taking the whole pump out!

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    Happens ever day now. Usually after about 20 miles or were going up a hill. Stop car switch off and restart and light goes of and you get any other 10miles or so before the light reappears.

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