DQ500 DSG IN A 2016 NA GOLF R, ADAPTATION ISSUES AND FAULTS

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Good Afternoon all,

I have a customers vehicle that I have been working on and have completed a Dq500 Swap into his 2016 Golf R. I used a company by the name of TVS engineering that handles the software side of things with the Mech unit.

So here is my issue and what I have performed.

vehicle starts and can communicate with the Mech unit, Oil level is correct, parking brake set oil temperature is above 30 deg c, I have tried this many times and get the same result. it says running and switches to not running in the adaptation screen. I then get faults codes, Issue is I have no way to follow these faults codes diagnostic wise.


I have pulled the trans out to inspect the transfer tube orings, check the preload of the cover for the clutch pack. reinstall and get the same thing. except I am now getting an additional fault P0607 (044) control module performance.

I also need to add that when you try to put in neutral or Reverse its like the transmission is locked in two gears. the output shafts do not turn at all.


Any input would be great!



Code:
Sunday,21,July,2019,20:42:33:11506
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWVF7AU0HW142856   License Plate: ADF



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                Address 02: Auto Trans       Labels: 0BH-927-711.clb
Control Module Part Number: 0DL 300 043 T    HW: 0DE 927 711 
  Component and/or Version: TVS DQ500     H12 9999
           Software Coding: 0014
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 000 00000
              ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001 (VW37)
                       ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021.rod
                      VCID: 3E73E8ACA15B47BAEF-806A
4 Faults Found:

10697 - Gear 1 
          P072C 00 [175] - Not Selectable
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 25462 km
                    Date: 2018.12.12
                    Time: 01:20:19

                    Engine speed: 808.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 83 °C
                    Clutch: primary stat: Neutral
                    selected gear: GANG N
                    Driving position: P
                    Engine torque: 0 Nm
                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Accelerator position: 14.8 %
                    DTC memory status: 93

10704 - Gear R 
          P072B 00 [044] - Not Selectable
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 25462 km
                    Date: 2018.12.12
                    Time: 01:20:22

                    Engine speed: 801.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 83 °C
                    Clutch: primary stat: Neutral
                    selected gear: GANG N
                    Driving position: P
                    Engine torque: 0 Nm
                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Accelerator position: 14.8 %
                    DTC memory status: 100

10722 - Unable to Engage Gear 6 -or- Synchronization Gear 6 aborted 
          P074E 00 [047] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 25462 km
                    Date: 2018.12.12
                    Time: 01:39:43

                    Engine speed: 1223.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 75 °C
                    Clutch: primary stat: Neutral
                    selected gear: GANG N
                    Driving position: P
                    Engine torque: 12 Nm
                    Control Module temperature: 45 °C
                    Accelerator position: 14.8 %
                    DTC memory status: 106

10877 - Control Module Performance Implausible 
          P0607 00 [044] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 25462 km
                    Date: 2018.12.12
                    Time: 01:18:35

                    Engine speed: 806.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 80 °C
                    Clutch: primary stat: NOTFAHREN
                    selected gear: GANG N
                    Driving position: P
                    Engine torque: 0 Nm
                    Control Module temperature: 46 °C
                    Accelerator position: 14.8 %
                    DTC memory status: 210
 
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Hello & welcome OP.

Probably contact the company offering such a conversion.


Vehicle Identification No.WVWVF7AU0HW142856
ModelGolf 2.0 R 4Motion
GO
Date of production25.11.2016
Model year2017
Sales type5G1RS7
Engine CodeCYFB
Transmission CodeSGA


Emission standard7GBEmission standard ULEV 2


Car comes with DG250 & is FOD!

RETROFITS!

Please Post a full auto-scan

fod-control-signs-risk-series.png


This section I'd say install the correct gearbox!
 
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Hello & welcome OP.

Probably contact the company offering such a conversion.


Vehicle Identification No.WVWVF7AU0HW142856
ModelGolf 2.0 R 4Motion
GO
Date of production25.11.2016
Model year2017
Sales type5G1RS7
Engine CodeCYFB
Transmission CodeSGA


Emission standard7GBEmission standard ULEV 2


Car comes with DG250 & is FOD!

RETROFITS!

Please Post a full auto-scan

fod-control-signs-risk-series.png


This section I'd say install the correct gearbox!

They really aren't sure where to go with this.

This car makes over 700 whp, stock gear box can't handle it. I will repost in retrofits.
 
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They really aren't sure where to go with this.

This car makes over 700 whp, stock gear box can't handle it. I will repost in retrofits.


Wow sounds cool.....

Post the whole scan so collective can try to add input...........
 
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Is the PC set right?


Is E313 sending the correct signals & a matched part to your project?

Are your brake pedal inputs accurate in blocks to correspond the F125 & E313 ?

May not be a mechanical is what I'm saying here.

Anyway hope it helps
 
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Hi JMRC
Good Afternoon all,

I have a customers vehicle that I have been working on and have completed a Dq500 Swap into his 2016 Golf R. I used a company by the name of TVS engineering that handles the software side of things with the Mech unit.

So here is my issue and what I have performed.

vehicle starts and can communicate with the Mech unit, Oil level is correct, parking brake set oil temperature is above 30 deg c, I have tried this many times and get the same result. it says running and switches to not running in the adaptation screen. I then get faults codes, Issue is I have no way to follow these faults codes diagnostic wise.


I have pulled the trans out to inspect the transfer tube orings, check the preload of the cover for the clutch pack. reinstall and get the same thing. except I am now getting an additional fault P0607 (044) control module performance.

I also need to add that when you try to put in neutral or Reverse its like the transmission is locked in two gears. the output shafts do not turn at all.


Any input would be great!



Code:
Sunday,21,July,2019,20:42:33:11506
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWVF7AU0HW142856   License Plate: ADF



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                Address 02: Auto Trans       Labels: 0BH-927-711.clb
Control Module Part Number: 0DL 300 043 T    HW: 0DE 927 711
  Component and/or Version: TVS DQ500     H12 9999
           Software Coding: 0014
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 000 00000
              ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001 (VW37)
                       ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021.rod
                      VCID: 3E73E8ACA15B47BAEF-806A
4 Faults Found:

10697 - Gear 1
          P072C 00 [175] - Not Selectable
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 25462 km
                    Date: 2018.12.12
                    Time: 01:20:19

                    Engine speed: 808.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 83 °C
                    Clutch: primary stat: Neutral
                    selected gear: GANG N
                    Driving position: P
                    Engine torque: 0 Nm
                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Accelerator position: 14.8 %
                    DTC memory status: 93

10704 - Gear R
          P072B 00 [044] - Not Selectable
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 25462 km
                    Date: 2018.12.12
                    Time: 01:20:22

                    Engine speed: 801.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 83 °C
                    Clutch: primary stat: Neutral
                    selected gear: GANG N
                    Driving position: P
                    Engine torque: 0 Nm
                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Accelerator position: 14.8 %
                    DTC memory status: 100

10722 - Unable to Engage Gear 6 -or- Synchronization Gear 6 aborted
          P074E 00 [047] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 25462 km
                    Date: 2018.12.12
                    Time: 01:39:43

                    Engine speed: 1223.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 75 °C
                    Clutch: primary stat: Neutral
                    selected gear: GANG N
                    Driving position: P
                    Engine torque: 12 Nm
                    Control Module temperature: 45 °C
                    Accelerator position: 14.8 %
                    DTC memory status: 106

10877 - Control Module Performance Implausible
          P0607 00 [044] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 25462 km
                    Date: 2018.12.12
                    Time: 01:18:35

                    Engine speed: 806.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 80 °C
                    Clutch: primary stat: NOTFAHREN
                    selected gear: GANG N
                    Driving position: P
                    Engine torque: 0 Nm
                    Control Module temperature: 46 °C
                    Accelerator position: 14.8 %
                    DTC memory status: 210
Good Afternoon all,

I have a customers vehicle that I have been working on and have completed a Dq500 Swap into his 2016 Golf R. I used a company by the name of TVS engineering that handles the software side of things with the Mech unit.

So here is my issue and what I have performed.

vehicle starts and can communicate with the Mech unit, Oil level is correct, parking brake set oil temperature is above 30 deg c, I have tried this many times and get the same result. it says running and switches to not running in the adaptation screen. I then get faults codes, Issue is I have no way to follow these faults codes diagnostic wise.


I have pulled the trans out to inspect the transfer tube orings, check the preload of the cover for the clutch pack. reinstall and get the same thing. except I am now getting an additional fault P0607 (044) control module performance.

I also need to add that when you try to put in neutral or Reverse its like the transmission is locked in two gears. the output shafts do not turn at all.


Any input would be great!



Code:
Sunday,21,July,2019,20:42:33:11506
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWVF7AU0HW142856   License Plate: ADF



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                Address 02: Auto Trans       Labels: 0BH-927-711.clb
Control Module Part Number: 0DL 300 043 T    HW: 0DE 927 711
  Component and/or Version: TVS DQ500     H12 9999
           Software Coding: 0014
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 000 00000
              ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001 (VW37)
                       ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021.rod
                      VCID: 3E73E8ACA15B47BAEF-806A
4 Faults Found:

10697 - Gear 1
          P072C 00 [175] - Not Selectable
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 25462 km
                    Date: 2018.12.12
                    Time: 01:20:19

                    Engine speed: 808.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 83 °C
                    Clutch: primary stat: Neutral
                    selected gear: GANG N
                    Driving position: P
                    Engine torque: 0 Nm
                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Accelerator position: 14.8 %
                    DTC memory status: 93

10704 - Gear R
          P072B 00 [044] - Not Selectable
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 25462 km
                    Date: 2018.12.12
                    Time: 01:20:22

                    Engine speed: 801.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 83 °C
                    Clutch: primary stat: Neutral
                    selected gear: GANG N
                    Driving position: P
                    Engine torque: 0 Nm
                    Control Module temperature: 47 °C
                    Accelerator position: 14.8 %
                    DTC memory status: 100

10722 - Unable to Engage Gear 6 -or- Synchronization Gear 6 aborted
          P074E 00 [047] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 25462 km
                    Date: 2018.12.12
                    Time: 01:39:43

                    Engine speed: 1223.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 75 °C
                    Clutch: primary stat: Neutral
                    selected gear: GANG N
                    Driving position: P
                    Engine torque: 12 Nm
                    Control Module temperature: 45 °C
                    Accelerator position: 14.8 %
                    DTC memory status: 106

10877 - Control Module Performance Implausible
          P0607 00 [044] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 25462 km
                    Date: 2018.12.12
                    Time: 01:18:35

                    Engine speed: 806.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 80 °C
                    Clutch: primary stat: NOTFAHREN
                    selected gear: GANG N
                    Driving position: P
                    Engine torque: 0 Nm
                    Control Module temperature: 46 °C
                    Accelerator position: 14.8 %
                    DTC memory status: 210
Hi, what was the fix for this in the end? Currently have a DL800 with similar symptoms.
 
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