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    How is my battery on 2013 Allroad?

    I'm wondering if I should start looking into replacing my battery soon.

    15:20:51 Group 018: Power Supply (Battery)
    12.100 V Battery Voltage
    -21.0 A Battery Current
    31.0C Battery Temp. (Estimate)
    33.0C Battery Temp. (Ambience)

    15:20:51 Group 019: Power Supply (Battery)
    77.0 % Battery State of Charge (SOC)
    80.0 % Battery State (as shown in MMI)
    63.0 % Battery Aging (derived fr. Load)
    75.0 % Battery Aging (derived fr. Output)

    15:20:51 Group 020: Power Supply (Battery)
    4.0 mOhm Internal Battery Resistance (actual)
    3.8 mOhm Internal Battery Resistance (stan.)
    38 Ah Battery Capacity (actual/available)
    12.50 V Quiescent Voltage
    2013 Allroad Premium Plus UM stage 1
    2003 Allroad EPL Stage1+ straight downpipes catless(sold at 187K miles)

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    Looks like it's getting a bit weak.

    More detailed data is available by pulling Battery History from your Gateway:
    https://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/history-data.php

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    I will get it and post it. What should I look for in there?
    2013 Allroad Premium Plus UM stage 1
    2003 Allroad EPL Stage1+ straight downpipes catless(sold at 187K miles)

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    Here is the history data. Not sure what to do with it. Clicked to analyze but then what?


    Code:
    ;Sunday,21,July,2019,17:46:04:53218
    ;                Address 19: CAN Gateway
    ;Control Module Part Number: 8R0 907 468 C
    ;  Component and/or Version: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H10 0025
    ;           Software Coding: 00C303FF00
    ;            Work Shop Code: WSC 06335
    ;                      VCID: 3FD84A7F877142DFF33-806A
    ;
    ;History Data
    
    Record 1/16: No-load voltage underranging
    2019-07-21-17:34*00.0*01*00785***
    2019-04-22-06:55*11.2*01**
    2019-04-19-19:17*24.0*01**
    2019-04-10-16:29*00.0*01**
    2019-04-08-06:36*00.1*01**
    2019-03-29-16:49*00.0*01**
    2019-03-25-19:38*00.0*01**
    2019-03-07-07:11*00.2*01*00000***
    2019-01-30-14:34*00.1*01**
    2017-12-22-13:05*00.0*01**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00*00000***
    2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00.0*00**
    
    Record 2/16: No-load current overranging
    2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00*00000**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0000*000*+00.00*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00**
    
    Record 3/16: Shut-off stage history
    2019-01-30-14:33*1*0*077*002*-06.65*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-05-11-01:23*4*0*089*085*-15.33*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-05-10-22:32*4*0*091*087*-08.45*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-05-10-20:05*4*0*090*088*-20.30*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-05-09-23:03*4*0*089*088*-09.95*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-05-09-05:02*4*0*089*086*-10.99*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-05-09-04:12*4*0*092*090*-10.62*0-0-1-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-05-04-16:33*4*0*095*090*-13.62*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-05-04-16:24*4*0*095*090*-09.51*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-05-04-15:51*4*0*098*093*-11.86*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-04-30-21:09*4*0*096*095*-05.79*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-04-30-18:43*4*0*100*095*-11.75*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-04-27-14:10*4*0*097*091*-06.91*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-04-24-22:31*4*0*092*084*-10.58*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    2012-04-13-11:42*4*0*093*079*-09.10*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*0*00.0*00.0**
    
    Record 4/16: Battery change history
    2012-04-11-08:32*01*4F0915105E *JCB*120404403T*09999*08667*0000*0000*0000**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*XXX*----------*09999*00000*0000*0000*0000**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*XXX*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*XXX*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
    2000-01-01-00:00*00*-----------*XXX*----------*00000*00000*0000*0000*0000**
    
    Record 5/16: Energy-critical vehicle states
    2019-01-30-13:52*-00.02*-00.04*-99.99*07.93*000*06*-01.0*08327*10007*
    092073*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*021.3*01*01*01**
    2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*
    000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*
    000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*
    000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*+00.00*+00.00*+00.00*00.00*000*00*+00.0*00000*00000*
    000000*0-0-0-0-0-0*0*00.0*00.0*000.0*00*00*00**
    
    Record 6/16: Energy balances (last 20 trips)
    2019-07-19-15:22*043*+31*+000.1*00.01**
    2019-07-18-16:10*053*+31*+001.5*00.83**
    2019-07-18-07:18*048*+31*+000.5*00.18**
    2019-07-18-06:52*048*+30*+000.9*00.38**
    2019-07-17-17:17*049*+31*+000.4*00.05**
    2019-07-17-17:03*050*+31*+000.2*00.03**
    2019-07-17-16:18*051*+31*+001.0*00.63**
    2019-07-17-06:55*044*+32*+000.8*00.45**
    2019-07-16-20:15*042*+35*+000.9*00.31**
    2019-07-16-19:33*043*+35*+000.9*00.30**
    2019-07-16-16:13*043*+35*+002.1*00.92**
    2019-07-16-06:53*044*+32*+000.9*00.49**
    2019-07-15-16:28*046*+36*+002.5*00.80**
    2019-07-15-06:52*045*+29*+001.1*00.47**
    2019-07-12-19:47*041*+32*+000.4*00.06**
    2019-07-12-19:33*041*+31*+000.2*00.08**
    2019-07-12-19:02*041*+31*+001.1*00.48**
    2019-07-12-14:18*042*+30*+000.5*00.28**
    2019-07-12-06:54*043*+31*+000.6*00.43**
    2019-07-11-16:47*050*+32*+001.8*01.01**
    
    Record 7/16: Energy balances (last 20 standing times)
    2019-07-19-11:29*037*-003.6*003.8*00.1*00.1**
    2019-07-19-09:29*044*-000.6*001.1*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-18-17:01*045*-001.2*016.5*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-18-07:30*041*-000.6*006.5*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-18-07:16*048*-000.2*000.0*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-17-17:20*047*-001.0*013.5*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-17-17:05*049*-000.6*000.1*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-17-16:57*051*-000.4*000.1*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-17-07:22*037*-000.7*008.9*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-16-20:33*040*-001.0*010.3*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-16-19:51*038*-000.6*000.3*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-16-17:09*039*-000.8*002.4*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-16-07:23*036*-000.5*001.2*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-15-17:16*041*-000.6*002.3*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-15-07:21*035*-001.1*009.1*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-12-19:50*044*-001.0*022.0*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-12-19:38*041*-000.6*000.1*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-12-19:31*041*-000.1*000.0*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-12-14:36*035*-000.8*004.4*00.0*00.0**
    2019-07-12-07:20*038*-000.7*006.9*00.0*00.0**
    
    Record 8/16: Battery manipulation (e.g. charging)
    2013-11-07-13:05*1*08*00*00*03*00*2000-01-01-00:00*01**
    2013-11-07-12:57*1*07*00*00*03*00*2000-01-01-00:00*01**
    2013-11-07-11:55*1*06*00*00*03*00*2000-01-01-00:00*01**
    2012-11-14-16:40*1*05*00*00*03*00*2000-01-01-00:00*01**
    2012-11-14-16:28*1*04*00*00*03*00*2000-01-01-00:00*01**
    
    Record 9/16: Battery aging
    2012-04-11-09:48*100*100*091*074*00003*12.70*+23*01*12.70*00000*00000**
    2019-07-10-06:56*060*075*087*047*08636*12.60*+28*01*12.70*00000*00000**
    2019-06-13-06:50*061*074*081*044*08585*12.50*+24*01*12.70*00000*00000**
    2019-05-15-06:24*061*072*073*038*08540*12.40*+19*01*12.70*00000*00000**
    2019-04-16-16:37*062*070*073*038*08472*12.40*+17*01*12.70*00000*00000**
    2019-03-18-06:58*072*072*074*040*08428*12.40*+05*01*12.70*00000*00000**
    2019-02-19-04:30*062*061*078*032*08366*12.50*-01*01*12.70*00000*00000**
    2019-01-17-20:17*060*063*074*029*08306*12.40*-01*01*12.70*00000*00000**
    2018-12-20-16:24*060*069*077*033*08251*12.50*+05*01*12.70*00000*00000**
    2018-11-23-06:56*057*071*081*035*08200*12.50*+07*01*12.70*00000*00000**
    2018-10-25-06:47*059*070*076*037*08143*12.50*+16*01*12.70*00000*00000**
    2018-09-27-17:45*056*074*073*034*08086*12.40*+18*01*12.70*00000*00000**
    
    Record 10/16: Dynamic energy management
    2017-12-29-11:03*1*000.2*0*000.0*00.01**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*0*000.0*00.00**
    ;
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*0*00.00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*0*00.00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*0*00.00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*0*00.00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*0*0*00.00**
    ;
    2017-12-29-11:03*2*000.2*00.01**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*00.00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*00.00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*00.00**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0*000.0*00.00**
    ;
    2019-05-20-08:06*99*15.00*14.82*12.80**
    2019-05-13-07:08*99*15.00*14.82*13.80**
    2019-05-10-12:46*99*15.00*14.82*14.30**
    2019-05-10-06:45*99*15.00*14.81*15.60**
    2019-05-09-16:27*99*15.00*14.83*10.10**
    
    Record 11/16: Recuperation
    2019-07-18-16:38*000*000*001*018*0182*050*00.0*00.4*090*052*092*053*01*00416*00860*00027*00449*01633**
    2019-07-11-17:21*000*000*000*023*0161*060*00.0*00.4*090*048*092*050*01**
    2019-07-10-17:36*000*000*001*002*0032*004*00.0*00.3*088*047*089*047*01**
    2019-07-10-17:18*000*000*003*003*0052*055*00.0*00.1*090*048*090*048*01**
    2019-07-10-07:26*000*000*001*000*0000*031*00.0*00.0*090*050*090*050*01**
    2019-07-09-17:26*000*000*002*004*0026*007*00.0*00.3*089*051*090*048*01**
    2019-07-09-16:56*000*000*000*021*0223*060*00.0*00.4*090*050*090*051*01**
    2019-06-11-07:06*000*000*000*000*0000*000*00.0*00.0*091*052*091*052*01**
    2019-06-11-07:05*000*000*000*000*0000*028*00.0*00.0*091*050*092*052*01**
    2019-06-06-16:59*000*000*001*000*0000*049*00.0*00.0*090*053*090*053*01**
    
    Record 12/16: Start-Stop
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
    00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
    ;
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0**
    00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
    ;
    2019-03-07-07:11*2*055*016*+02*05*-030*+16.53*10.2*0**
    2019-03-04-16:01*2*077*018*-06*05*-030*+03.00*10.1*0**
    2019-02-26-17:21*2*078*018*-08*05*-030*+14.08*10.1*0**
    2019-02-25-17:54*2*072*020*-07*05*-030*-28.19*10.6*0**
    2019-02-25-17:24*2*073*018*-07*05*-030*+25.04*10.3*0**
    00000*00157*00000**
    
    Record 13/16: Sporadic alternator faults
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0*00000**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
    2000-01-01-00:00*0-0-0-0-0*000.0**
    
    Record 15/16: Local activ.
    2019-04-12-16:54*001*23*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
    2019-02-08-16:55*001*22*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
    2019-02-06-16:56*001*21*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
    2018-12-28-16:43*001*20*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
    2018-12-07-16:28*001*19*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
    2018-11-27-16:57*001*18*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
    2018-11-16-14:05*001*17*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
    2018-11-13-17:33*001*16*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
    2018-11-01-07:05*001*15*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
    2018-10-29-10:45*001*14*00*000*00*00*000*00*00**
    
    Record 16/16: Vehicle energy balance
    099214**
    00801*05702*04391*00016*00000**
    09891*00072*00021*00009**
    14242*11237*00085*00000**
    01461*04362*01963*02832**
    04318*04296*02004**
    00000*00000*00000*00000**
    12105*00661*00049*00002**
    06687*00022*00002**
    00000*00000*00000**
    00138*00022*00000**
    00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000*00000**
    2013 Allroad Premium Plus UM stage 1
    2003 Allroad EPL Stage1+ straight downpipes catless(sold at 187K miles)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Looks like it's getting a bit weak.

    More detailed data is available by pulling Battery History from your Gateway:
    https://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/history-data.php

    -Uwe-
    Can you help me understand how you read this?
    2013 Allroad Premium Plus UM stage 1
    2003 Allroad EPL Stage1+ straight downpipes catless(sold at 187K miles)

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