How to enable the Hidden Menu for Audi S5 2018?

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Greetings! I am looking to enable the hidden menu on my 2018 Audi S5 Sportback and am having issues locating instructions relevant to my model/year. The RT forum entries and A50C forum entries provide instructions for older generations of MMI (e.g. MMI 3G), but the older instructions don't apply to my car. While VCDS lets me interact with the 5F module, there is no "Channel 6" in Adaptation to enable as there is on previous generation vehicles with MMI 3G. Does anyone have instructions that include the name of the channel that needs to be enabled? Thanks for any advice! ~Mike


I've included the VCDS scan of my car below:

Code:
Friday,12,July,2019,08:11:15:35744
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64(VMWare)
VCDS Version 19.6.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUC4CF53JA016644   License Plate: UPTIME (S5)
Mileage: 21679km-13470mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type  F5-AU49 (8W8)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 13 15 16 17 19 1B 29 32 36 39 3C 42 44 46 47
          52 5F 6C 6D 74 81 82 8B A5 A9 BB BC CA CF D6 D7

VIN: WAUC4CF53JA016644   Mileage: 21679km-13470miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1B-Active Steering -- Status: OK 0000
29-Left Light -- Status: INTERFACE NOT COMPATIBLE 
32-Differential Locks -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
39-Right Light -- Status: INTERFACE NOT COMPATIBLE 
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
74-Chassis Control -- Status: OK 0000
81-Gear Shift -- Status: OK 0000
82-Heads Up Display -- Status: OK 0000
8B-Adaptive Cruise 2 -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
BB-Door Rear Drv -- Status: OK 0000
BC-Door Rear Pass -- Status: OK 0000
CA-Sunroof -- Status: OK 0000
CF-Lane Chge Asst 2 -- Status: OK 0000
D6-Light Ctrl Left 2 -- Status: INTERFACE NOT COMPATIBLE 
D7-Light Ctrl Right 2 -- Status: INTERFACE NOT COMPATIBLE 
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CWGD)       Labels:. 07K-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8W0 907 559 H    HW: 06M 907 309 D
   Component: V6 3.0l TFSI  H21 0005  
   Revision: B2H21000    
   Coding: 1A2A00322366010E34280000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06334 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS0118W0907559H 001006
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 4A9BBF8EED34A91F07-801F

2 Faults Found:
4515 - Radiator Fan (V7) 
          P1950 00 [000] - Movement Restricted / Jammed
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

0000 - ROD - Unknown Error Code 
          - 00 [000]
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8W0 927 158 C    HW: 0D5 927 156 H
   Component: 0D5  30TSIUSA H05 1003  
   Revision: --H05---    
   Coding: 100000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMALX52011 002010
   ROD: EV_TCMALX52011.rod
   VCID: 428B97AED504715FCF-8017

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 8W0-907-379-PRE-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8W0 907 379 M    HW: 8W0 907 379 D
   Component: ESP9 Premium  H13 0767  
   Coding: 1CAA149A30A30A9C11A44895408158A2E4259A38280C508812021A4527A459
   Shop #: WSC 06334 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ESP9BOSCHCMP 002013
   ROD: EV_ESP9BOSCHCMP_002.rod
   VCID: 4FADAE9A16568C3750-801B

1 Fault Found:
417024 - TPMS Warning; Rear Right Tire 
          C105A 00 [032] - Pressure too Low
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8W0 820 043 T    HW: 8W0 820 043 T
   Component: Klima Zone 3  H55 Klima Zone 3  H55 02050205  
   Coding: 1608050D5544010D10020100880000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiBHTCAU491 001013
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 448791B6CF107F6FFD-8011

   Fresh Air Blower Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M1 820 021 A    HW: 4M1 820 021 A
   Component: J126 FLuftV  H08 0003 
   Serial number: 00000000000001603260

   Relative humidity sensor in fresh air intake duct: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658 A    HW: 4H0 907 658 A
   Component: AQ_ª  H01 0006 

   Rear Climatronic Operating And Display Unit: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8W0 919 158     HW: 8W0 919 158 
   Component: E265 Kli Fond  H40 0080 

1 Fault Found:
131078 - Reference Voltage 
          B10AD 16 [009] - Voltage Too Low
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 230
                    Mileage: 16733 km
                    Date: 2019.05.05
                    Time: 17:47:43

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.68 V
                    Outside air temperature: 31.00 °C


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8W0 907 063 CG    HW: 8W0 907 063 BG
   Component: BCM1 MLBevo   H13 0267  
   Coding: 07500363E0691CCD050D511918AC9CB9110B3D040000000000000000200016010A69012B825709
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCM1BOSCHAU736 018006
   ROD: EV_BCM1BOSCHAU736_018_AU49.rod
   VCID: 020B57AE9584B15F8F-8057

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8W6 955 119     HW: 8W6 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: 494 LL 050417  036 0471 
   Serial number: 00000001704030303602
   Coding: 5FC7F7

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 81A 955 555 A    HW: 81A 955 555 
   Component: G397_RLFSS  H06 0002 
   Coding: 02005D

   Light switch: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 204 559 99X 81A    HW: 4M0 941 531 T
   Component: E1 - LDS  H06 0008 
   Serial number: 24 02 2017  00793706

   Garage door opener control module: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4M0 907 410 A    HW: 4M0 907 410 A
   Component: USHL5  H04 0050 
   Serial number: 0000009600335Z0CQ602
   Coding: 350000

   Garage Door Opener Operating Unit: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 719 A    HW: 4M0 959 719 A
   Component: GTO BF  H01 0010 
   Serial number: 20170427095627 00273

   Automatic Day Night Interior Mirror: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 8W0 857 511 B    HW: 8W0 857 511 B
   Component: Y7_Innenspieg  H01 0002 
   Serial number: GX1CE123031723610109
   Coding: 010000

   Interior Light Module: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 8W0 947 135 CS    HW: 8W0 947 135 
   Component: J528-Dachele  H14 0130 
   Serial number: Q00291848           

   Convenience And Driver Assist Operating Unit: 
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 8W0 925 301 BC    HW: 8W0 925 301 BC
   Component: SL-B9/Q5NF  H17 0010 
   Serial number: 2617000031920006    
   Coding: 000000

   Valve Block 1 In Driver Side Front Seat: 
   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 8W0 907 182     HW: 8W0 907 182 
   Component: J873 MKS_FSv  H03 0033 
   Serial number: 7008174235B171434596
   Coding: BF0500

   Valve Block 1 In Passenger Side Front Seat: 
   Subsystem 10 - Part No SW: 8W0 907 182     HW: 8W0 907 182 
   Component: J872 MKS_BFSv  H03 0033 
   Serial number: 7008174235B171433231
   Coding: B30500

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8W0 907 561 C    HW: 8W0 907 561 
   Component: LRR4          H10 0330  
   Coding: B4779FF258FFEC05757A61A1
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBOSCHAU49X 003022
   ROD: EV_ACCBOSCHAU49X.rod
   VCID: 3E73E35EA1FC15BFAB-806B

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8W0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8W0 959 655 J    HW: 8W0 959 655 J
   Component: Airbag10.44   H09 Airbag10.44   H09 01040104  
   Serial number: 003US0006CPI
   Coding: BFCCF0C000800000A0000033D24C00000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU736 005015
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 50AFADE60B6893CF49-8005

   Belt Pretensioner left: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 980 945 B    HW: 4M0 980 945 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFL  306 2033 
   Serial number: 8W0857705G0149R00679
   Coding: 80000D

   Belt Pretensioner right: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4M0 980 946 B    HW: 4M0 980 946 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFR  306 2033 
   Serial number: 8W0857706J0144R01614
   Coding: 80000D

   Occupant Detection: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339     HW: 4M0 959 339 
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H11 0022 
   Serial number: IBH0000J170007BBLG0A

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 061 305 17
   Component: SideSensor_Df  1E2 0887 
   Serial number: 3577Y009F2414141236M
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 061 305 17
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  1E2 0887 
   Serial number: 3587Y009F2414143218P
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
1C7 
   Serial number: 3517700A52674E13E09C

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 0B1 305 17
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1C7 0148 
   Serial number: 35277009B2674E142334
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 0C1 105 17
   Component: FrontSensor_D  1C5 014A 
   Serial number: 3557500AB22BF493612F
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Passenger: 
   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: ---    HW: 442 0C1 105 17
   Component: FrontSensor_P  1C5 014A 
   Serial number: 3567500AB22BF495909R
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 4M0-907-129.clb
   Part No SW: 4M0 907 129 GG    HW: 4M0 907 129 GG
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H11 0009  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOAU736 006008
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOAU736_006.rod
   VCID: 7BF52A4AF26EC097CC-802F

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:* Redir Fail!-SRI2
   Part No SW: 8W5 920 890 D    HW: 8W5 920 890 D
   Component: FBenUSA       0371  
   Coding: 09CF49CB7CA8CF0502B3E9601800400008000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardAU736 001027
   ROD: EV_DashBoardAU736_AU49.rod
   VCID: 448791B6CF107F6FFD-8011

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway
Cannot be reached

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Address 1B: Active Steering (J792)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8W0 907 144 E    HW: 8W0 907 144 C
   Component: SCU_MLBevo    H03 0706  
   Coding: 40
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SCUZFLSAU49X 002014
   ROD: EV_SCUZFLSAU49X_002.rod
   VCID: 3D71E452ACFA0EA7B2-8069

No fault code found.

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Address 29: Left Light
Interface not compatible.
Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.

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Address 32: Differential Locks (J187)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8W0 907 163     HW: 8W0 907 163 
   Component: QSP QCU Gen2  H07 0040  
   Revision: 5WK12700    Serial number: 605721701252007
   Coding: 0001
   Shop #: WSC 06334 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TVDCQSP22 001007
   ROD: EV_TVDCQSP22.rod
   VCID: 79F93042F852F287DE-802D

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4M1 959 760     HW: 4M1 959 760 
   Component: MEM-FS        008 0031  
   Serial number: 00000259079390
   Coding: 005C1B000000B0010000010101010000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SCMDriveSideCONTIAU736 006009
   ROD: EV_SCMDriveSideCONTIAU736_AU49.rod
   VCID: 76E33B7EC94C9DFFB3-8023

No fault code found.

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Address 39: Right Light
Interface not compatible.
Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.


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Code:
                Address 5F: Information Electr.
Control Module Part Number: 8W5 035 880 A
  Component and/or Version: MU-P-LNS-US   034 1118
           Software Coding: 019453020000000053220002041A00102F0012E501700904BE
            Work Shop Code: WSC 06335
                      VCID: 3D71E452ACFA0EA7B2-8069

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
     Serial number: A798E0HB032395
     Identification: JTB-074
     Date: 25.05.17
     Manufacturer number: 1184
     Test stand number: 0281
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts(application): 0/0
     Programming Attempts(data): 65535/1/1/1/1/1/0/0/0/1/65535/65535/65535/0/0/0/1/0/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535
     Successful Attempts(data): 65535/1/1/1/1/1/0/0/0/1/65535/65535/65535/0/0/0/1/0/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535
     Flash Date: 00.01.01
     Flash Tool Code(data): 00001 790 06335
Misc.
     Hardware number: 8W5 035 880 
     Workshop System Name: J794
     Equipment/PR Code: 000002C87F239694D2E799FC
     Dataset Number: 8W2909545H 
     Dataset Version: 0034
     ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS
     ASAM Dataset Revision: 001115
Car Info
     Chassis Number: WAUC4CF53JA016644
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 3D71E452ACFA0EA7B2-8069
       Labels: 8W0-035-MIB-HGH2.clb
       ROD: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS_AU37.rod


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                Address 5F: Information Electr.
Control Module Part Number: 8W5 035 880 A
  Component and/or Version: MU-P-LNS-US   034 1118
           Software Coding: 019453020000000053220002041A00102F0012E501700904BE
            Work Shop Code: WSC 06335
                      VCID: 3D71E452ACFA0EA7B2-8069

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
     Serial number: A798E0HB032395
     Identification: JTB-074
     Date: 25.05.17
     Manufacturer number: 1184
     Test stand number: 0281
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts(application): 0/0
     Programming Attempts(data): 65535/1/1/1/1/1/0/0/0/1/65535/65535/65535/0/0/0/1/0/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535
     Successful Attempts(data): 65535/1/1/1/1/1/0/0/0/1/65535/65535/65535/0/0/0/1/0/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535/65535
     Flash Date: 00.01.01
     Flash Tool Code(data): 00001 790 06335
Misc.
     Hardware number: 8W5 035 880 
     Workshop System Name: J794
     Equipment/PR Code: 000002C87F239694D2E799FC
     Dataset Number: 8W2909545H 
     Dataset Version: 0034
     ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS
     ASAM Dataset Revision: 001115
Car Info
     Chassis Number: WAUC4CF53JA016644
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 3D71E452ACFA0EA7B2-8069
       Labels: 8W0-035-MIB-HGH2.clb
       ROD: EV_MUHig6C3Gen2HBAS_AU37.rod
 
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This is an MIB2 unit. There is a developer mode adaption channel to enable the green engineering menu.
 
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Thanks! I found the "developer mode" and was able to change it. Now I'm looking for instructions on how to access the green menu.

For anyone looking for detailed instructions, I offer them below...

INSTRUCTIONS FOR ENABLING DEVELOPER MODE
From VCDS, I selected module 5F-Information Elect. and then selected "Security Access-16" where the security key (key = "S12345" is shown in VCDS). After that, I selected Adaptation-10 which is where I found the adaptation channel that must be activated: IDE02122-Developer Mode.

RED ENGINEERING MENU
To enter the menu: To access the menu, press and hold the NAV/MAP rocker switch followed immediately by pressing and holding MEDIA rocker switch. Hold both NAV/MAP and MEDIA for about 5 seconds at which time the red menu displays.
To exit the menu: Repeat the same sequence as for entering the menu

~Mike
 
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I found another post that mentioned about how to access the GREEN ENGINEERING MENU with vehicles with MIB2.

GREEN ENGINEERING MENU:
To enter the menu: press and continue to hold the NAV/MAP rocker switch followed immediately by pressing and holding the RADIO rocker switch for about 5 seconds.
To exit the menu: Repeat the same sequence as for entering this menu

~Mike
 
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For completeness reasons:

The green hidden menu is accessed in another way on the newer/facelifted cars:
NAV/MAP (or CAR) + RADIO

For the red engineering menu it's:
NAV/MAP (or CAR) + MEDIA


Note: first press NAV/MAP (or CAR) and then press the second button (MEDIA/RADIO). Hold both for about five seconds and then let go. Menu should start.

GEM and REM of course provide different functionality.
 
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Anybody figured how to enable Developer mode with VCDS ? i tried SA 20103 which is accepted, but enabling Developer mode - > OUT OF RANGE
SA: S12345 is incorrect in 5F.

I have an Audi A5 2018 Sportsback
 
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Only with Engineer Session possible. But why you need GEM ? You can`t do anything in it. It`s different to the old MMI3G Gen Nav System
 
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Only with Engineer Session possible. But why you need GEM ? You can`t do anything in it. It`s different to the old MMI3G Gen Nav System

Oh i had no idea, i am in the process of retrofitting the 360 topview camera (from the rearview camera) on the Audi A5 Sportsback, and i wanted to explore the coding possibilities.

Thanks for the info!
 
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Then you can quit your research in activate GEM. You'll need adaptions, dataset so on
 
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Thanks! I found the "developer mode" and was able to change it. Now I'm looking for instructions on how to access the green menu.

For anyone looking for detailed instructions, I offer them below...

INSTRUCTIONS FOR ENABLING DEVELOPER MODE
From VCDS, I selected module 5F-Information Elect. and then selected "Security Access-16" where the security key (key = "S12345" is shown in VCDS). After that, I selected Adaptation-10 which is where I found the adaptation channel that must be activated: IDE02122-Developer Mode.

RED ENGINEERING MENU
To enter the menu: To access the menu, press and hold the NAV/MAP rocker switch followed immediately by pressing and holding MEDIA rocker switch. Hold both NAV/MAP and MEDIA for about 5 seconds at which time the red menu displays.
To exit the menu: Repeat the same sequence as for entering the menu

~Mike
I was able to get into the Red Engineering menu before using the two rocker switches but after unsuccessfully trying to clear a B201A error it's no longer working. Any help, please.
 
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